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post #106 of 1044
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Originally Posted by rdawson808
Sorry, I dropped off the conversatior a bit. We spent yesterday having our service upgraded to fiber optic. Much faster now.

A couple comments:

re: Americans playing in Europe vs the MLS. I know I am very hard on the MLS, and will admit that it all stems from my disgust at the way Landon Donovan is treated like a saint over here. But our players having experience in Europe is far and away better than them staying in the MLS. Someone cited our MLS players in the US's success in 2002. You have ignored the obvious Euro-based players. Sorry, but Reyna, Freidel, O'Brien, and others were more important, imo.

My second comment: man these US commentators suck. They are just horrible. Tommy Smith and that other brit are good, and Cello Balboa isn't bad either, but the other Americans are just crap. Sometimes it's like they're not even watching. This guy talking during the Arg v. IC game (the ex-goalkeeper as he keeps calling himself) is just horrible.

re: England. Not great but not horrible either you have to admit. Their goal was due to Beckham. Even without that tiny touch from the defender, that ball was going in. And there was an English player right in line to head it anyway. But England need to produce more chances. Of coures, with the T&T v Sweden draw they are in a good position. Assume they beat T&T and that's 6 pts.

Edit: I forgot this: Man, Gerrard couldn't hit the broad side of a barn today.

MP, how's the referring so far in your mind?


bob

Sorry to crash in but I have to say the Mexican referee in the England game was appalling.In England we criticise the refs in the Premiership but when a World Cup comes round you realise how bad they are in other countries.
The crazy thing is in the English press on Saturday morning they warned us how bad this guy was and so it turned out to be.So if the world's press can see it why can't FIFA?
post #107 of 1044
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Originally Posted by waldo pepper
Absolutely no offence meant whatsoever,but I didnt realise people existed who did not know the basic rules of football.
Hope you enjoyed the game though.

Yes - we're called Americans

I did find this picture which is making me reconsider my distaste for soccer...



Which team is she on?
post #108 of 1044
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Originally Posted by Bradford
Yes - we're called Americans

I did find this picture which is making me reconsider my distaste for soccer...



Which team is she on?

I don't know but when I find out I will be supporting them.
post #109 of 1044
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Originally Posted by waldo pepper
Absolutely no offence meant whatsoever,but I didnt realise people existed who did not know the basic rules of football.
Hope you enjoyed the game though.

What's the point in even saying that? I bet you don't know the first thing about many other sports without having to look them up on the Internet.
post #110 of 1044
About the referring, I guess I'm just a little more forgiving. On the one hand, I see what even I think are obvious missed calls (the goal for Argentina that wasn't called), but more importantly, I think we have to remember that

(i) they must make a split-second decision
(ii) we have the advantage of multiple camera angles and replays.

In the end, I think the bad calls or lack of calls are pretty evenly distributed and do not hurt anyone team more than another.

I thought the Mexican ref for the England game was okay. He's no Collina, but who is. This was his first international match with a Euro team and he did alright.


And Iran just equalized with Mexico! 36th min. I thought they'd have one earlier. I would just love to see Mexico go out in the first round.

bob
post #111 of 1044
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Originally Posted by waldo pepper
Absolutely no offence meant whatsoever,but I didnt realise people existed who did not know the basic rules of football.
Hope you enjoyed the game though.

They are taking pains to explain the rules during the broadcasts here in the US. Even the most basic rules like how many subs are allowed and whether a subbed player can come back in etc. I understand why they are doing it (to draw in fans) but it is driving me up a wall.

b
post #112 of 1044
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Originally Posted by tommib
What's the point in even saying that? I bet you don't know the first thing about many other sports without having to look them up on the Internet.

Firstly I would say I know the basic rules of 98% of sports.
Secondly football isnt an "other sport",its the biggest sport in the universe.
Thirdly Bradford took the comment in the context it was meant so why are you sticking your nose in.
And finally my comment was designed to highlight how some Americans know or care very little about football.I consider our cultures very close:language,values,world politics etc...but when it comes to sports we are poles apart.(generally)
post #113 of 1044
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Originally Posted by waldo pepper
Firstly I would say I know the basic rules of 98% of sports. Secondly football isnt an "other sport",its the biggest sport in the universe. Thirdly Bradford took the comment in the context it was meant so why are you sticking your nose in. And finally my comment was designed to highlight how some Americans know or care very little about football.I consider our cultures very close:language,values,world politics etc...but when it comes to sports we are poles apart.(generally)
I think you're a big troll, go and post some fashion posts. Saying you know the rules of 98% of all sports is clearly a lie. And just because football is the biggest sport in the world doesn't make it good. Has it occured to you that the majority of people are stupid? More importantly why are football kits so ugly? With all that money they get paid you think they could have some nice polo shirts made. T
post #114 of 1044
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Originally Posted by tommib
Ooooo, sooooory. Maybe we should change the name of Style Forum to "Waldo's Football and the rules of 98% Sports Forum - Trolls Welcome" in your honor.

Saying you know the rules of 98% of all sports is clearly a lie. And just because football is the biggest sport in the world doesn't make it good. Has it occured to you that the majority of people are stupid?

More importantly why are football kits so ugly? With all that money they get paid you think they could have some nice polo shirts made.

T

TROLL????
Polo shirts???
Listen as I said earlier,you got involved in this conversation and it seems there is only you who has a problem.
The comment about football kits being ugly proves what a moron you are.They are not supposed to be high fashion unless YOU are one of those tattooed beer bellies who couldnt even run for the bus who step out in one on a Saturday night.
I have played six sports at county level and have a interest in most sports so please dont call me a liar when you clearly know nothing about me.
I suspect your hostility comes from being the school geek and getting picked last every sports day.
post #115 of 1044
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by rdawson808
About the referring, I guess I'm just a little more forgiving. On the one hand, I see what even I think are obvious missed calls (the goal for Argentina that wasn't called), but more importantly, I think we have to remember that

(i) they must make a split-second decision
(ii) we have the advantage of multiple camera angles and replays.

In the end, I think the bad calls or lack of calls are pretty evenly distributed and do not hurt anyone team more than another.

I thought the Mexican ref for the England game was okay. He's no Collina, but who is. This was his first international match with a Euro team and he did alright.


And Iran just equalized with Mexico! 36th min. I thought they'd have one earlier. I would just love to see Mexico go out in the first round.

bob
c'mon man. you should be rooting for our region, costa rica played okay against germany, trinidad put on a great performance against sweden, and mexico put iran in their place.

i'll be rooting for the u.s. though i don't think they've seen a defence as well organized as the czechs. it will be fun.

as to the comment about the mexican ref: in mexico he is known as "chiquidracula" and he is controversial because he actually enforces the rules! i've seen him give yellow cards to players for cursing at their own teammates. this is unsportsmanlike conduct and merits a booking, but i've never seen another ref call it. i think he's a good ref.

in the world cup in usa '94 fifa supposedly said they were going to crack down on the shirt pulling but the only ref who actually did so was mexican. he gave out something like 6 yellow cards in his first match for shirt pulling, and the media criticized him all over the world. bullocks! he was the best ref there.

also, from what i've seen, england and spain have the best referees. i don't know why you would criticize your refs in england.

the italian referee in the mexico v. iran game was awful. he was calling a foul a every time a player went down, for no reason. the good thing was that his bad calls were spread evenly between both teams.

as for the goal line call in the argentina match. i thought it was a good call. it may have been a goal, but if you're not 100% sure, it's not a goal. i would hate for them to call it a goal because they think the ball probably crossed the line.
post #116 of 1044
Tommib and Waldo Pepper: shut the hell up and leave our thread alone if you aren't going to participate constructively.

bob
post #117 of 1044
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Originally Posted by rdawson808


And Iran just equalized with Mexico! 36th min. I thought they'd have one earlier. I would just love to see Mexico go out in the first round.


Iran got their asses handed to them by Mexico...not that I want Mexico to win, but I rather see Mexico win and Iran lose than the other way around.

Argentina won their first game too

Jon.
post #118 of 1044
Thread Starter 
and one more thing.

i saw mexico v. iran on abc. it was the first time i have seen a world cup match with american commentators. someone at abc needs to be fired.

the main announcer had no clue what was going on, and preferred to bring up politics over and over agian, regardless of what was going on on the field. i saw the game in a bar full of mexicans, iranians, and englishmen. (it was an english pub.)

everyone was hooting at howling every time the announcer spoke. it was awful. the guy was bringing up nuclear weapons, terrorism, illegal immigration, nazi germany, everything except the game. at one point, alexi lalas (who did a decent job) brought up the fact that the iranian goalie had sent flowers to the mexican goalie, whose father recently died. the announcer quickly seized the opportunity to discuss how iran said the holocaust was a myth. call the FUCKING GAME!!!

i think the american broadcasting networks are hell bent on keeping americans in fear and i've never seen any sportscasting in any sport worse than what abc did today. brainwashing...
post #119 of 1044
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Originally Posted by imageWIS
Iran got their asses handed to them by Mexico...not that I want Mexico to win, but I rather see Mexico win and Iran lose than the other way around.

Argentina won their first game too

Jon.

oye cabrón! estoy apollando a los argentinos como uno de los nuestros. deberías hacer lo mismo.
post #120 of 1044
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Originally Posted by waldo pepper
TROLL????
Polo shirts???
Listen as I said earlier,you got involved in this conversation and it seems there is only you who has a problem.
The comment about football kits being ugly proves what a moron you are.They are not supposed to be high fashion unless YOU are one of those tattooed beer bellies who couldnt even run for the bus who step out in one on a Saturday night.
I have played six sports at county level and have a interest in most sports so please dont call me a liar when you clearly know nothing about me.
I suspect your hostility comes from being the school geek and getting picked last every sports day.

I skipped school during sports day.
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