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post #61 of 94
Last one I watched was the new anime one by Miyazaki Hayao, called Ponyo..it was much better than I had expected...

I some time want to watch Shichi-nin no samurai (7 samurai) by Kurosawa Akira...

When I was a teen I liked the HK flicks too- e.g. The Killer...A Better Tomorrow 3 (I believe) was so funny cause of the bad English by Chow Yun Fat when his character had to flee to the U.S...."Eat the fuckin' l/rice" etc...edit: one of my top favs is Swordsman II with Jet Li and Brigitte Lin!-shes one of my fav actresses, actually:

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post #62 of 94
Not really up to date but here're some 2000s films I liked...
Besides Koreeda and Kawase, I guess Yamashita, Toyoda and Ishii could be considered as some of "THE" Japanese film makers although not really in the same vein

Linda, Linda, Linda (Yamashita)
The Buried Forest (Oguri)
Blue Spring (Toyoda)
No One's Ark (Yamashita)
2LDK (Tsutsumi)
Pornostar/Tokyo Rampage (Toyoda)
The taste of tea (Ishii)
Eureka (Aoyama)
Dragonhead (Iida)
Love&Pop (Anno)
The Bird People in China (Miike)
Shara (Kawase)
Nobody Knows (Kore-Eda)
Summer time machine blues (Motohiro)


Café Lumière (Hsiao-hsien)
3-Iron (Ki-Duk)
The Last life in the Universe (Ratanaruang)


I really need to up my Chinese cinema game... also, anything good coming out of HK recently besides Johnnie To ?
post #63 of 94
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Very true! there were just too much stupid things in that movie for me to find it entertaining. The name of the new born pony..., the scene where LiuBei makes shoes, Zhangfei writing.. (seriously, he was a butcher for god sake). i can understand these unneccesary changes if the original novel was bad, but it was awesome... he could just tell it like what it is. I never bothered to watch the second one.
Without telling to much... they basically ended the movie Red Cliff part II with that pony instead of a grand finale.

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A Better Tomorrow 3 (I believe) was so funny cause of the bad English by Chow Yun Fat when his character had to flee to the U.S...."Eat the fuckin' l/rice" etc...edit: one of my top favs is Swordsman II with Jet Li and Brigitte Lin!-shes one of my fav actresses, actually:

A Better Tomorrow 2

Brigitte Lin I loved this deleted scene from Chungking Express. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv-wkseAxvY#t=280
post #64 of 94
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Originally Posted by sipang View Post
Not really up to date but here're some 2000s films I liked... Besides Koreeda and Kawase, I guess Yamashita, Toyoda and Ishii could be considered as some of "THE" Japanese film makers although not really in the same vein Linda, Linda, Linda (Yamashita) The Buried Forest (Oguri) Blue Spring (Toyoda) No One's Ark (Yamashita) 2LDK (Tsutsumi) Pornostar/Tokyo Rampage (Toyoda) The taste of tea (Ishii) Eureka (Aoyama) Dragonhead (Iida) Love&Pop (Anno) The Bird People in China (Miike) Shara (Kawase) Nobody Knows (Kore-Eda) Summer time machine blues (Motohiro) Café Lumière (Hsiao-hsien) 3-Iron (Ki-Duk) The Last life in the Universe (Ratanaruang) I really need to up my Chinese cinema game... also, anything good coming out of HK recently besides Johnnie To ?
I like a lot of the movies on your list and you reminded me of Toyoda so I'll seek out what I haven't seen. Recent HK movies beside To weren't very good IMHO. I recommend seeking Dante Lam (beast cop, Jiang hu) as he recently made the not so bad beast stalkers. I'm sure you already know about Fruit Chan and Ann Hui, they're still doing some ok stuff. There aren't many movies coming out of HK and I often end up watching everything that I could possibly find palatable by the end of the year, haven't done so for 2009 and part of 2008 though. I also like some of Edmond Pang's movies, especially the silly comedy "men suddenly in black".
post #65 of 94
Thanks for that list, sipang! Will check out those I haven't seen. Would you say Shara is Kawase's best work? I'm also curious about her documentary output, haven't seen any of those though. Would you recommend any in particular?
post #66 of 94
I am a big fan of the cinema blog Some Came Running, presided over by Glenn Kenny. Glenn is erudite, astute and movie crazed. He recently posted his "70 Best Movies of the Decade," which includes the following Asian films (I've only seen one): Goodbye Dragon Inn (Tsai Ming - liang, 2003), In the Mood for Love (of course), Night and Day (Hong Sang-soo, 2008), Ponyo (Hayao Miyazaki, 2009), Spirited Away (Miyazaki, 2001), Still Life (Jia Zhangke, 2008), Sympathy for Lady Vengeance (Park Chan-wook, 2005), Syndromes and a Century (Apitchapong Weerasethakul, 2008), Three Times (Hou Hsiao-Hsien, 2005), Tokyo Sonata (Kiroshi Kurosawa, 2008), The World (Jia Zhangke, 2004), Yi Yi (Edward Yang, 2000).
post #67 of 94
^I plan to watch Tokyo Sonata later tonight. Have pretty high expectations; heard it's good.
post #68 of 94
Asian horror flicks are insane. They make the hollywood remakes look terrible. The Grudge, The Ring, Premonition, were all Japanese horror movies that were much better than the remakes.
post #69 of 94
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^I plan to watch Tokyo Sonata later tonight. Have pretty high expectations; heard it's good.

I liked it.
post #70 of 94
I haven't many lately, but I did like Cheung Fo (The Mission), Great Happiness Place, Ong-Bak, Infernal Affairs, and PTU (HK 2003).
Watching Survive Style 5+ now, coincidentally. I also watched the first couple minutes of Ikiru and I can't wait to get back to it when I'll be uninterrupted with a bowl of popcorn. The acting/body language was mesmerizing.
post #71 of 94
Heh, Love Exposure by Sion Sono. 4 hours of perversion pantie shots.
post #72 of 94
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I was blown away by Ozu's Tokyo Story.
^ This.

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Heh, Love Exposure by Sion Sono.
^ This.

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Once upon a time in China
^ This.

Tokyo's Story is one of the most beautiful, yet truthful films to ever translate on screen (Bicycle Thieves being another).

Sion Sono is an interesting director. But I do find his films pretentious. Love exposure takes that pretentiousness to even greater heights. 4 hours of awkward dialogue, overwrought harangues, over-the-top action/reaction, plus having a premise centred around upskirt photography = ultimate win. Watch is not for the deep philosophical underpinning (though it attempts at it), but for the sheer entertainment value (eg. number of LOL moments).

Personally, I rank OUATIC as the greatest film in HK cinema. And I've watched almost all of the classics, the familiar favourites, the films many consider great, from the 1970s all the way to the 2000s. The incredible action scenes, the scope of the plot, the epic nature of the scene setups in spite of the low budget, all contribute to make this film a hell of a ride. Most importantly, OUATIC has heart. Sure, it takes on a nationalistic stance, and the foreigners were portrayed as stereotypical caricatures, but there are lessons to be learned, by both the hero and the anti-heroes. There are character arcs and emotional payoffs. I can't think of other martial arts films of which I can say the same. Together with its sequel, the first 2 OUATIC films represent the pinnacle of HK action/MA films.
post #73 of 94
OUATIC definitely ranks high in epicness, Jet Li at its peak (Fist of Legend was great too) and crazy Tsui Hark in control must've helped too. The man pretty much IS the golden era of HK cinema along with his pal John Woo, I'm surprised none of his films are listed here, there a couple worth mentionning :

Tsui Hark's 'Chaos trilogy', his first 3 films in who share the same violent-nihilistic-bizarre vibe
Butterfly Murders
We're Going to eat you !
Don't Play with Fire

A Better Tomorrow 3 , I liked it despite what others think but it's nothing like the two previous one. John Woo's "version" of this film, called "A Bullet in the Head", is one of his best film imo.

The Lovers
Green Snake
Love in the time of twilight

Last but not least, The Blade, a "realist" take on the Wu Xia genre.


Some early Johnnie To :

The Big Heat, super dark violent police drama, also over the top (but less than Woo)
Running out of time



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Originally Posted by Fuuma View Post
I like a lot of the movies on your list and you reminded me of Toyoda so I'll seek out what I haven't seen.

Recent HK movies beside To weren't very good IMHO. I recommend seeking Dante Lam (beast cop, Jiang hu) as he recently made the not so bad beast stalkers. I'm sure you already know about Fruit Chan and Ann Hui, they're still doing some ok stuff. There aren't many movies coming out of HK and I often end up watching everything that I could possibly find palatable by the end of the year, haven't done so for 2009 and part of 2008 though. I also like some of Edmond Pang's movies, especially the silly comedy "men suddenly in black".

Thanks, I'll check those out. I just realised the last HK dvd I bought was Fulltime Killer, I think I pretty much gave up on HK after having to sit through China strike force (with Coolio, yes !) so I've been out of the loop for a while now.


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Thanks for that list, sipang! Will check out those I haven't seen. Would you say Shara is Kawase's best work? I'm also curious about her documentary output, haven't seen any of those though. Would you recommend any in particular?

Surprinsigly I haven't see the new Kawase's films yet (Mourning forest dvd is sitting on my shelves) and I don't remember Moe no suzaku well enough to compare. What's great with 'Shara' is that despite being documentarish and realistic in its nature/approach the film is sometimes bordering on the fantastic/fantasy genre.
Haven't seen any of the documentaires yet but they're probalby more easily available here, we'll see.
post #74 of 94
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Originally Posted by laughwithm3 View Post
Very true! there were just too much stupid things in that movie for me to find it entertaining. The name of the new born pony..., the scene where LiuBei makes shoes, Zhangfei writing.. (seriously, he was a butcher for god sake). i can understand these unneccesary changes if the original novel was bad, but it was awesome... he could just tell it like what it is.
I never bothered to watch the second one.

I always thought that the scene where LiuBei made those straw shoes were part of the original storyline to show that though he was of royal blood/ruler type, he was humble enough to make those straw shoes for his people.
post #75 of 94
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I always thought that the scene where LiuBei made those straw shoes were part of the original storyline to show that though he was of royal blood/ruler type, he was humble enough to make those straw shoes for his people.

Yes, I find nothing wrong with the making of shoes. Xiaoqiao's poem was a travesty though. That's one scene that made me cringe.
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