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post #31 of 49
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Originally Posted by lefty View Post
No.



Yes.

This is the most uncomfortable chair I've ever sat upon. 20 minutes tops and you'll be squirming and shifting your weight. My BIL has a vintage pair that he reconditioned and I love watching him crawl all over the thing trying to get comfortable. I believe that was deliberate design feature as they are meant to be a temporary seat.
lefty

Not sure if it was mentioned here before, but the chair was designed essentially as 'throne' seating for the king and queen of Spain, for when they visited the Barcelona Pavilion at the 1929 Worlds Fair in Germany. The throne chairs were the only items in white. All other furniture was black.

This from one review of the pavilion:

"The only function it had to accommodate was a reception for the King and Queen of Spain as they signed the "Golden Book" officially opening the exposition. According to Mies, the furniture designed and fabricated especially for the pavilion, the Barcelona chairs and stools, went unused during the opening ceremony. "To tell you the truth," he remarked, "nobody ever used them.""
post #32 of 49
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Originally Posted by allreds View Post
+1

Look for a stainless frame. You won't get that from Knoll. Instead, you'll get chrome that will pit over time.

BTW, they're quite comfortable when you have the ottoman as well.

Can you back that up?
post #33 of 49
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Originally Posted by mlyngard View Post
Can you back that up?

If you're asking about price, I guess stainless is an option, but isn't what you'll get for your $4300.

4.3k for chrome, 6.6k for stainless
post #34 of 49
mlyngard - any thoughts on pros/con of stainless vs. chrome? $2,300 is quite the amount of money for the upgrade.
post #35 of 49
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Originally Posted by allreds View Post
If you're asking about price, I guess stainless is an option, but isn't what you'll get for your $4300.

4.3k for chrome, 6.6k for stainless

Thanks. Didn't know that Knoll was doing a chromed base now. Hm. I'm wondering if it's in response to all the knock-offs out there and the higher demand in contract vs. resi.

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Originally Posted by gomestar View Post
mlyngard - any thoughts on pros/con of stainless vs. chrome? $2,300 is quite the amount of money for the upgrade.

I can guess at them: Salt air, moisture, deferred cleaning etc. are tougher on chrome. Stainless is obviously solid barstock stainless = good, but polished stainless also needs special care and stainless polish to keep the shine. Chrome can chip, develop rust spots, get hazy. Stainless can get whorls if not polished with stainless polish. Otherwise, I'd trust anything stainless over any plating, especially in kick/rub areas like a chair base. Plus, any deep scratches can be literally polished/ground out with stainless, where you'd just be grinding off the very thin plating with chrome.

I also feel that stainless has a much more seductive lustre than bright chrome.

In the long run, I'd feel that for that piece, as a luxury item and design icon and one you can pass down, an additional 2k is totally worth it. Plus, 2k amortized over fifty years is inconsequential.

I'd have to do more research as to whether the originals were done in stainless, but I believe they were - so again - true to the design intent.
post #36 of 49
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Originally Posted by mlyngard View Post
Not sure if it was mentioned here before, but the chair was designed essentially as 'throne' seating for the king and queen of Spain, for when they visited the Barcelona Pavilion at the 1929 Worlds Fair in Germany. The throne chairs were the only items in white. All other furniture was black.

This from one review of the pavilion:

"The only function it had to accommodate was a reception for the King and Queen of Spain as they signed the "Golden Book" officially opening the exposition.

Did not know that but considering how uncomfortable they are it makes sense.

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According to Mies, the furniture designed and fabricated especially for the pavilion, the Barcelona chairs and stools, went unused during the opening ceremony. "To tell you the truth," he remarked, "nobody ever used them.""

I bet they make great boat anchors.

lefty
post #37 of 49
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Originally Posted by lefty View Post

I bet they make great boat anchors.

lefty

totally!
post #38 of 49
Sorry to Necrobump but I just received a Rove Concepts replica and it is terrible. Leather is clearly not from a cow. Luckily I bought on Ebay and there is a return policy but, don't repeat my mistake. I am going to buy a used real one I think. $5,000 is just a lot for a chair.

I don't find these chairs uncomfortable though. The elegance more than makes up for the fact it isnt as comfortable as a la-z-boy. Like a suit vs. sweats.
post #39 of 49
The devil is in the details, compare the plating alone on a knoll or cassina peice to the knockoffs. I've inspected one that sits by a door that is wide open 7 days a week and the chrome has not developed one pit or scar over the past 3 or 4 years that it has sat there.

That being said I don't have much interest in owning one, I just find them too often commercially specified to really look at home in a residential setting. They're good for a short sit, but for comfort in iconic Bauhaus furniture I'd take an LC1-3, Brno, Wassily or MR lounge over the Barcelona.
Edited by SkinnyGoomba - 8/26/12 at 6:37pm
post #40 of 49
Thread Starter 
I did in the end buy a replica Barcelona, quality is pretty good, and I'm still happy with it. That said it has turned out to be uncomfortable to sit on for long periods of time, so I've replaced it, (as my main armchair) with an eames lounge chair knock off. I did my homework, which is the important part with replica furniture as quality does vary a great deal nod[1].gif yes, the original is no doubt better, if you can afford them, I cant afford them so I buy within my means as I enjoy good design.
post #41 of 49
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Originally Posted by dave View Post

I've said it before and I'll say it again, there's no reason to skimp on furniture purchases. If you want a Barcelona, get one. don't buy a knockoff. People here spend 2k on a pair of shoes and 3k on a suit, then flip out because they have to spend 3-5k on a chair. it's ridiculous.

Sure, but not everyone on this forum buys $2k shoes and $3k suits. So it's understandable that someone might want to looking at less expensive options for a single chair.
post #42 of 49
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Originally Posted by JMRouse View Post

Sure, but not everyone on this forum buys $2k shoes and $3k suits. So it's understandable that someone might want to looking at less expensive options for a single chair.

Buy something else then, there's lots of nice cheap non replica chairs out there, for a lot less than what a replica Eames, Van Der Rohe etc. costs.
post #43 of 49
Exactly, IMO you can even scale down in the same manufacturer, cassina for instance th lc1 can easily take the place of the lc2 in many places. It's about 1/2 the price.
post #44 of 49
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Originally Posted by Find Finn View Post

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Originally Posted by JMRouse View Post

Sure, but not everyone on this forum buys $2k shoes and $3k suits. So it's understandable that someone might want to looking at less expensive options for a single chair.

Buy something else then, there's lots of nice cheap non replica chairs out there, for a lot less than what a replica Eames, Van Der Rohe etc. costs.

Could you point me to some examples of nice, less expensive, non-replica chairs? I like the idea of that, but I don't know where to start looking for them.
post #45 of 49
new or vintage?

Vintage:

Ebay "midcentury lounge"
Plycraft Mulhauser


New: (all can sell you a brand new lounge charm for less than 4k$)
Hay
Normann
De La Espada
Zeitraum
Bolia
Snoopy
Brdr. Petersen
www.dwr.com
Edited by Find Finn - 9/3/12 at 8:39am
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