Donegal recommendation for suit

Parker · Jul 18, 2010

Yeah, guess you're right. I would also wear pants with a sweater and Barbour-style jacket for casual.

NOBD · Jul 18, 2010

I plan to wear it with everything else. Well, not everything of course, but with other 'rough' fabrics. I can't see why that wouldn't work, but maybe I'll see why when I see it...

culverwood · Jul 19, 2010

Originally Posted by NOBD

I like them both. The P&H is a bit more pronounced (like you mentioned, because of the colours and the finishing of the fabric), and I like that (also for a suit). What bothers me though, is the red in it. Red is just not my colour, and judging by the pictures of culverwood it's quite prominent, perhaps too prominent for my taste.

As you said yourself "It seems to be nice and 'quite' (i.e. not loud) and gets more interesting when you get closer to the fabric."

There is definitely red in it and a little orange and the odd fleck of a lighter blue but they are only noticeable close up. I thought about a suit in it but decided to just get a coat in the end.

NOBD · Jul 19, 2010

Originally Posted by culverwood

As you said yourself "It seems to be nice and 'quite' (i.e. not loud) and gets more interesting when you get closer to the fabric."

There is definitely red in it and a little orange and the odd fleck of a lighter blue but they are only noticeable close up. I thought about a suit in it but decided to just get a coat in the end.

Thanks, culverwood. I think the fabric of your coat looks great, I just have a slight preference for the Scabal.

NOBD · Jul 19, 2010

Originally Posted by Vintage Gent

I do. It's here:

http://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=81303

Originally Posted by Vintage Gent

(Hope you don't mind my posting your picture here.)

Looks great, and again different from the P&H Thornproof and the Scabal blue donegal; quite a lot of green and white, and less heavy. Thanks again.

JLibourel · Jul 19, 2010

Originally Posted by edmorel

I'm going to go against the grain here and say that a donegal suit is one of those things that is wonderful theoretically as both pieces individually are great but when put together, you have a disaster. If you are out shooting grouse, it probably looks great. If you are walking in the middle of the city, it may look like you are wearing a glorified sweatsuit.

One of the characters in the fairly recent movie "Shutter Island" wore a brown donegal suit. I thought it looked quite striking. I don't think a donegal suit would be right for conservative business dress, but the character in question was a shrink.

Manton · Jul 19, 2010

Originally Posted by JLibourel

One of the characters in the fairly recent movie "Shutter Island" wore a brown donegal suit. I thought it looked quite striking. I don't think a donegal suit would be right for conservative business dress, but the character in question was a shrink.

Wasn't that set in the '50s?

NOBD · Jul 19, 2010

Here are some pictures:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1130884/mediaindex

T4phage · Jul 19, 2010

Originally Posted by NOBD

The Scabal is a bit lighter (both in colour and in weight: 13ozs) and quieter (forgive me for using any non-orthodox words; it's hard to express these things in another language). It also has some red in it, but not too much. I wouldn't call it rustic, but I think I know what you mean.

If I had to decide today: the Scabal. (With pain in my heart, because I would miss the cool Thornproof name...)

it seems almost as if you like the idea of a donegal but not the elements that make it a donegal, specifically the various flecks of colour. the scabal is quite a bit more monotonal than the others.

i suggest you look at a book from h&s (forgot the name and my books are in storage) made of a high twist yarn in scotland. it is not a fresco, but there is varigations in the yarn colour if you look closer (macro perhaps?), but the weave is almost 'nubby' because of the high twisted yarns

George · Jul 19, 2010

Originally Posted by JLibourel

One of the characters in the fairly recent movie "Shutter Island" wore a brown donegal suit. I thought it looked quite striking. I don't think a donegal suit would be right for conservative business dress, but the character in question was a shrink.
Are you sure it was a Donegal and not flecked wool?

George · Jul 19, 2010

Originally Posted by T4phage

it seems almost as if you like the idea of a donegal but not the elements that make it a donegal, specifically the various flecks of colour. the scabal is quite a bit more monotonal than the others. i suggest you look at a book from h&s (forgot the name and my books are in storage) made of a high twist yarn in scotland. it is not a fresco, but there is varigations in the yarn colour if you look closer (macro perhaps?), but the weave is almost 'nubby' because of the high twisted yarns
My experience of high twist wools has not been good.

NOBD · Jul 19, 2010

Originally Posted by T4phage

it seems almost as if you like the idea of a donegal but not the elements that make it a donegal, specifically the various flecks of colour. the scabal is quite a bit more monotonal than the others.

I do like the Donegal flecks, I just don't want them to be too various... I understand that somewhat undermines the idea of a Donegal, but I don't mind that. I'm thinking more about how I would use the suit and the elements of it, than whether it's a (very) typical Donegal. A more monotonal version is 'Donegal enough' for me, and is more practical for what I have in mind.

T4phage · Jul 19, 2010

Originally Posted by George

My experience of high twist wools has not been good.
and i have had the polar opposite

Originally Posted by NOBD

I do like the Donegal flecks, I just don't want them to be too various... I understand that somewhat undermines the idea of a Donegal, but I don't mind that. I'm thinking more about how I would use the suit and the elements of it, than whether it's a (very) typical Donegal. A more monotonal version is 'Donegal enough' for me, and is more practical for what I have in mind.
you should check out the h&s book anyway, you may like it because if i remember correctly, the weave looked much like the thornproof, and it did have varigations of colour within the yarn itself (appears solid from a distance). i think it was called 'marl' something.

NOBD · Jul 19, 2010

Originally Posted by T4phage

you should check out the h&s book anyway, you may like it because if i remember correctly, the weave looked much like the thornproof, and it did have varigations of colour within the yarn itself (appears solid from a distance). i think it was called 'marl' something.

Okay, thanks.

George · Jul 19, 2010

Originally Posted by T4phage

and i have had the polar opposite you should check out the h&s book anyway, you may like it because if i remember correctly, the weave looked much like the thornproof, and it did have varigations of colour within the yarn itself (appears solid from a distance). i think it was called 'marl' something.
There was a Marl book and very nice it was too. But it was a hard worsted not a tweed. Grey sweatshirts usually have a Marl effect but don't let that put you off.

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