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post #3466 of 3527
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Originally Posted by wilsoax View Post

the black buttons are metal, not cheap plastic ones you would see on "cheap store" brands.


It's more about the aesthetic to me.  I dunno how to feel about them having black buttons in general because I don't really like black buttons, but as I said earlier, I can't really think of any alternatives in this case.

Do you like the shirt?


EDIT: Underdog brand indeed.  I imagine mainline Lands' End makes all the money, and their tolerance for low profit on LEC is probably higher because of that.


Edited by Sashu - 8/7/13 at 11:47am
post #3467 of 3527

It fits really well. i tried on the small and it's nice weight.  Intent was to be able to dress it up or wear casually.
 

post #3468 of 3527
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Originally Posted by Sashu View Post

 

Their ties are okay at best.  I have a few, and I don't really expect them to last, but I prefer them to their mainline because a lot of their mainline stuff is just tacky to me.

Their shirts make for decent casualwear (as in, around the house or doing groceries, and not "looking good while being nonchalant"), but considering Brooks Brothers drops their oxfords down into the $50 range (and lower) at least twice a year, you really don't need to bother.  How do you feel about that denim shirt with black buttons?  On principle, I avoid shirts with black buttons, but I tried to imagine another button color for that particular shirt and drew a blank.
 


In my experience, their shirts are only a little bit blousier than J. Crew's slim fit shirts.  Definitely on board with the XS sizes thing.

 

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Originally Posted by bl@ster View Post


So you buy LEC shirts but only to hang out around the house in or getting groceries? I'm sorry but give me a break. The quality of LEC shirts is on par with J. Crew (not in styling per se) and really not that far from most Brooks Brothers shirts. In some cases the LEC stuff is *better* quality with one example being the Chinos.

The ties aren't expected to last? How much wear are your ties getting? How often are you tying them? And tell us more about that no black buttons principle.

Sometimes I have trouble taking this forum seriously. It often feels more like a theater of the absurd.

 

To begin with, LEC doesn't even offer that many shirts, and their styling doesn't scream must-have to me. Quality is definitely slipping, and as of this season, they are a full notch below J.Crew. It's sad, but unless you're hanging around the house or doing groceries, you wouldn't want to wear them. Really.

 

As to the ties, the quality of a tie is not about when it will fall apart. It is in the weight, the shape, the look and the feel of it when knotted. LEC ties don't do for it for me. They are toys. If you're dressing up with a tie you may as well get a good tie that does and looks the part. I heartily recommends mainline LE ties. Excellent material and construction. Many of them look tacky but you can always just get the solid ones if nothing else.

 

(and by the way, this Hermes-ish one is really getting my attention.)

 

 

 

I'm entirely impartial on the black buttons though. They can work with the dark denim wash of the shirt, especially if they lean towards a navy shade. Haven't seen the shirt in person yet, but everything in the picture looks fine to me.

post #3469 of 3527
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Originally Posted by wilsoax View Post

It fits really well. i tried on the small and it's nice weight.  Intent was to be able to dress it up or wear casually.
 

Thanks for the info.  I'm still on the fence, but I'm glad to hear it's not a bad shirt.

 

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Originally Posted by xxxamazexxx View Post
As to the ties, the quality of a tie is not about when it will fall apart. It is in the weight, the shape, the look and the feel of it when knotted. LEC ties don't do for it for me. They are toys. If you're dressing up with a tie you may as well get a good tie that does and looks the part. I heartily recommends mainline LE ties. Excellent material and construction. Many of them look tacky but you can always just get the solid ones if nothing else.

 

(and by the way, this Hermes-ish one is really getting my attention.)

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

LEC's ties look decent, but they're flimsy, and having one fall apart on me was the straw that broke the camel's back for me, lol.

I'm rarely impressed with mainline LE or LEC's ties, but that yellow one's actually pretty nice.  You know, Lands' End's old Charter Collection has some pretty sweet ties.  That's usually where I look, especially because of how pathetic the mainline's knit ties are these days.

post #3470 of 3527
I've found that the LE Canvas chino shorts and chino trousers are good - very good, in fact, especially for the price - but I've been disappointed with the quality of the button-up shirts that I've ordered from LE Canvas. The collars were too small, the fabrics were very thin and flimsy, and the construction was not very good.

So, whilst I'm happy to order more chino pants and shorts from the LE Canvas range, I'll definitely stick to mainline LE for oxford cloth shirts and casual madras or check shirts.

A friend of mine bought a mainline LE knit tie a little while back and it was very good, too.
post #3471 of 3527

This is a Charter Collection knit:

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Much, much thicker than what you see in the mainline.  I don't think you can even compare their quality.

 

 

In my experience, mainline knits are kind of thin and you can see through them if you hold them up to the light. Not my kind of thing :P

Canvas had a thick self-tie knit bowtie at one point.  It was really interesting and I was at a point in my life where I thought the whole idea of knit ties was ridiculous, and now they no longer carry it and I sorely miss it.  Do you have any idea how hard it is to find knit bow ties online, let alone self-tie bows? :'(

For whatever reason, LEC's bowties are actually really good and most of the mainline's attempts at making bows are sad.


...I am considering grabbing those 30% acrylic pants if/when there's a sale for the sake of satisfying my curiosity.  I'm genuinely curious despite what I said before, because we all seem to agree that they make pretty good pants, so I figure these can't be terribad (I guess I'm kinda hyped up now?).

post #3472 of 3527

How is this tie? Should I buy $15? Looking for an inexpensive navy/blue white pindot tie

 

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/7/7/6/6/5/3/webimg/646933022_o.jpg

post #3473 of 3527
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Originally Posted by theh00d View Post

How is this tie? Should I buy $15? Looking for an inexpensive navy/blue white pindot tie

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/7/7/6/6/5/3/webimg/646933022_o.jpg

I'm also looking for one, but the dots on that look a little big to me.
post #3474 of 3527
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Originally Posted by Journeyman View Post

I've found that the LE Canvas chino shorts and chino trousers are good - very good, in fact, especially for the price - but I've been disappointed with the quality of the button-up shirts that I've ordered from LE Canvas. The collars were too small, the fabrics were very thin and flimsy, and the construction was not very good.

So, whilst I'm happy to order more chino pants and shorts from the LE Canvas range, I'll definitely stick to mainline LE for oxford cloth shirts and casual madras or check shirts.

A friend of mine bought a mainline LE knit tie a little while back and it was very good, too.

Canvas shirts are good for the price, but the pants punch above their weight class. What the shirts are good for are wearing to work in an office job in which you're active, and the rest of your coworkers dress like its 1995. Honestly, if I wear a LEC shirt and slim chinos I look like Gianni Agnelli.

oTOH I don't want to be that guy who peacocks it every day and is known for it. My uniform is pretty much bb sf , gitman vintage and LEC shirts, slim fit chinos from various brands an AE boots and brogues. Yeah, plebe status but its a conscious decision taking lots of things into consideration..
post #3475 of 3527
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Originally Posted by theh00d View Post

How is this tie? Should I buy $15? Looking for an inexpensive navy/blue white pindot tie

 

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/7/7/6/6/5/3/webimg/646933022_o.jpg


Go for it.  That's a gorgeous tie.

post #3476 of 3527
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Originally Posted by xxxamazexxx View Post

 

 

To begin with, LEC doesn't even offer that many shirts, and their styling doesn't scream must-have to me. Quality is definitely slipping, and as of this season, they are a full notch below J.Crew. It's sad, but unless you're hanging around the house or doing groceries, you wouldn't want to wear them. Really.


 

Could you go into more detail about quality slipping?

post #3477 of 3527
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Originally Posted by wilsoax View Post

Could you go into more detail about quality slipping?

 

Well I would have put them below J Crew in quality for sure, but more recently they have been jacking up prices and doing sales less and less. I only own a few shirts and pair of pants from LEC and none of them are worth full retail.

post #3478 of 3527
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Originally Posted by enjay View Post

 

Well I would have put them below J Crew in quality for sure, but more recently they have been jacking up prices and doing sales less and less. I only own a few shirts and pair of pants from LEC and none of them are worth full retail.

 

Are you talking about fabric quality or make?

 

What if I told you that LEC gets their shirting fabric from the same place J.Crew does? and their bottoms quality from the same company as dockers?

post #3479 of 3527
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Originally Posted by wilsoax View Post

Could you go into more detail about quality slipping?

 

I got some oxfords and poplins from LEC last fall. If my memory serves me well, they were $44 each, with okay fabric and single-stitching on the sleeves. They just feel decent and have held up well for me. Some may say they are on par with J.Crew, and I won't put up a fight even though I feel there's something missing that doesn't make those shirts quite as nice as J.Crew's. Still, I was fairly satisfied with what I paid and what I got.

 

Last spring, I got a gingham poplin shirt. I didn't notice the fact  that it was $5 cheaper until I noticed the double-stitching on the sleeves. That must be where the $5 difference went. In all honesty, single-stitching or double-stitching is not a deal-breaker for me, on a casual shirt. The fabric was not too bad either. But after 3 months not being very compelled to wear it even once, I decided to return it.

 

Today, I just got another oxford shirt with contrast collar, and as of this post, it was the worst I have ever come across in my life. It came wrinkled like hell, and the fabric felt like my dorm room's bed linen. And voila, double-stitching. If the previous shirts have not quite convinced me they were not as good as J.Crew's, this one definitely has.

 

To me, J.Crew's shirts are the bare minimum of what I find good enough to wear. Sure, their fabric doesn't compare to anybody, and they're horribly overpriced, but they have consistently good construction and, forgive me, look better than LEC shirts. In the past, LEC shirts might have rivaled J.Crew's, but the last two years have proven otherwise. Believe me, I'm sadder than anyone else that I have to give my money to J.Crew instead of LEC, but I don't lower my expectation just because LEC lower theirs.


Edited by xxxamazexxx - 8/8/13 at 5:33pm
post #3480 of 3527
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Originally Posted by wilsoax View Post

 

Are you talking about fabric quality or make?

 

What if I told you that LEC gets their shirting fabric from the same place J.Crew does? and their bottoms quality from the same company as dockers?

 

Not surprising at all. As I said, J.Crew's fabric isn't something to get excited about. I can imagine that both of them source fabric from the same place, but J.Crew definitely makes the better use of it.

 

As to the pants, there's no doubt in my mind that LEC chinos blow J.Crew's or anything in the same price range out of the water. Good fabric, good fit and decent construction. Questionable color choices though (there's 'midnight blue' and 'soap stone' but not even good ol' navy? Come on.) Once they have some remotely popular color I will be over there real quick.

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