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post #301 of 3521
Lands' End will be fine.
post #302 of 3521
You're definitely right that Land's End caters to the older demographic right now, but isn't that what the Canvas line is trying to change a little? They're certainly going for a J.Crew vibe with the whole line, presumably in the hopes of drawing in a younger crowd.

Seems like they realize the problem you point out and are trying to change it.
post #303 of 3521
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Originally Posted by BB1 View Post
Difficult to imagine there are many great clothing options sold here and everytime I look at their site I leave feeling so depressed.

I agree with this. I don't often check out LE's main site, but when I do, I rarely click with any of the clothes.

But much of the LE Canvas stuff works for me. Especially the chinos. Would I prefer a pair from Engineered Garments, or Band of Outsiders, or Save Khaki? Maybe. But all those would cost at least $100 a pair. With a few easy-to-find coupons, I picked up 3 pairs of Canvas chinos for around $90.

By the way, don't know if anyone saw this article on costly khakis in the NYTimes. Band of Outsiders has a pair for $550:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/29/fa...=chinos&st=cse
post #304 of 3521
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Originally Posted by Matt44 View Post
I agree with this. I don't often check out LE's main site, but when I do, I rarely click with any of the clothes.

But much of the LE Canvas stuff works for me. Especially the chinos. Would I prefer a pair from Engineered Garments, or Band of Outsiders, or Save Khaki? Maybe. But all those would cost at least $100 a pair. With a few easy-to-find coupons, I picked up 3 pairs of Canvas chinos for around $90.

By the way, don't know if anyone saw this article on costly khakis in the NYTimes. Band of Outsiders has a pair for $550:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/29/fa...=chinos&st=cse

Nope nobody saw that article, I mean its not like there's a 17 page thread about it that was on the front page the last few days.... http://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=178401 .
post #305 of 3521
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Originally Posted by Meis View Post
Nope nobody saw that article, I mean its not like there's a 17 page thread about it that was on the front page the last few days.... http://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=178401 .

Whoops, my bad. But at least you let me know in a cool way.
post #306 of 3521
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Originally Posted by Kurtz View Post
You're definitely right that Land's End caters to the older demographic right now, but isn't that what the Canvas line is trying to change a little? They're certainly going for a J.Crew vibe with the whole line, presumably in the hopes of drawing in a younger crowd.

Seems like they realize the problem you point out and are trying to change it.

Exactly.

My GF just ordered a skirt from LE Canvas. Got the nice little hand-written thank-you note and is gushing over the fact that Canvas is like the old J. Crew from a few years back that she loved but at cheaper prices. She's gonna wear the hell outta that skirt. She's just annoyed that a lot of the better items seem to be out of stock quite a bit. She also likes that she can return Canvas items at any Sears store where LE is sold. That's convenient.

By creating a completely different brand, they've been able to market to two completely different demographics. Personally, I think that was smart. Youth-ifying the LE brand itself would maybe kill LE's loyal demographic.
post #307 of 3521
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This is short term thinking. There are a lot of business out there whose business model is largely designed to accommodate baby boomer tastes. They go after the boomers because there are more people in that age group AND most of the boomers are at the height of their earning power. However, it's all downhill from here.

The boomers are just now starting to retire in ever increasing numbers. When people retire, their annual spending tends to decrease year after year as they grow older. This leads to fewer purchases from Lands End and other favorite boomer retailers. Where will the missing revenue come from? Definitely not from younger generations since (as you can see from the Lands End demographic info) younger people prefer to shop elsewhere.

No offense, but I think your comment about short-term thinking also applies to the argument in your second paragraph. It presumes that LE customers will simply grow old, die, and no one will replace them.

Right now brands like JCrew are still my go-to, but I acknowledge that will change as I get older. More and more I'm starting to pick up pieces from RL on the higher end and LE on the lower end. Haven't gotten to BB yet, those extra slim fit oxfords will probably eventually lure me in. And eventually one day you end up on the trad forum in AAAC. That's how the cycle works.
post #308 of 3521
Does anybody know how their desert boots fit compared to Clarks? They're a nice mid brown color that clarks doesn't offer so I was thinking of taking a chance on them but I'm not near a store to see how they fit.
post #309 of 3521
Anyone try the Peacoat? How does it compare to other options in that price range or slightly more expensive? And how's the arch support in the desert boots?
post #310 of 3521
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Originally Posted by blynch
otr, I'm a size medium in most things but went with a small in LE canvas to get a decent fit(I size down 1 with jcrew as well). It was hit or miss for me, 2 of the 4 shirts I got were too short in the sleeves (I'm just about 6 foot tall).
I'm assuming you wear a small at JCrew too? How does the fit compare?
post #311 of 3521
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I'm assuming you wear a small at JCrew too? How does the fit compare?

similar in the body/shoulders, jcrew small is longer in the arms.
post #312 of 3521
just racked up a healthy bill and am looking for a coupon, anyone?
post #313 of 3521
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just racked up a healthy bill and am looking for a coupon, anyone?
Promotion Code JUNE28 and PIN 6322 This should be good for free shipping, but I'm not aware of any LE promo codes that don't exclude Canvas.
post #314 of 3521
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Originally Posted by Biggie_Robs View Post
Promotion Code JUNE28 and PIN 6322

This should be good for free shipping, but I'm not aware of any LE promo codes that don't exclude Canvas.

thanks, i got that one too. the frugal side of me doesn't want to pull the trigger without a 10%-15% discount
post #315 of 3521
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Originally Posted by a-rock View Post
No offense, but I think your comment about short-term thinking also applies to the argument in your second paragraph. It presumes that LE customers will simply grow old, die, and no one will replace them.
But existing LE customers will indeed grow old, die, and no one will truly replace what they represent. The supposed replacements are the next younger generation. However younger generations have different attitudes about life, fashion, and consumption due to different experiences growing up. Unlike the boomers their lives were not defined by Vietnam War, the 60's counter culture, etc. Companies like LE have to adjust to match the younger generation's different tastes if they want to survive. But how can they do this without alienating their existing cash cow customer base in the process? And how can they overcome the negative stereotypes younger generations have rightly attached to their brand name? Thus far, they have not demonstrated much of an ability to shift their demographic.
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Originally Posted by a-rock View Post
Right now brands like JCrew are still my go-to, but I acknowledge that will change as I get older. More and more I'm starting to pick up pieces from RL on the higher end and LE on the lower end. Haven't gotten to BB yet, those extra slim fit oxfords will probably eventually lure me in. And eventually one day you end up on the trad forum in AAAC. That's how the cycle works.
I'm not sure I agree with the notion that as people grow older they tend to brand hop in a progression towards brands representing increasingly more elderly styles. Instead I'd propose that as people grow older they become more resistant to change, causing their style to become more static. Ultimately their fashion seems elderly not due to their specific clothing types (i.e. suit vs. graphic t-shirt), but because the styles are not current and instead rooted in the past. Thus a large number of brands appear to "age" (i.e. stay static) with their customers as they grow older, as this is the surest way to continue selling product to your already established customers. Such company's styles are heavily based on the past, yet they still add a small dose of the current into their designs. Confirming the belief that older people like to believe they look somewhat current, yet prefer to do so on their own terms-- using the outdated styles they feel comfortable with. A prefect example are some of the jeans sold by companies like LE and LL Bean. Most of their "mom jeans" cuts are basically 1980's style fashion that's been slightly modernized. Most of the baby boomers today are wearing stuff similar to what they wore years ago. Jeans represented rebellion to many of this generation, and look how they continue with it today, believing wearing jeans to the office is a sign of success (or rebellion against the system). How many of these boomers would fit in with the "trad" misfits at AAAC anyway? That you are posting in SW&D today, yet can envision yourself wearing Brooks Brothers and posting on Ask Andy's as your inevitable future makes me think you're not very old-- i.e. you're basing your concept of what growing older means more on a stereotype and less on experience.
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