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post #1 of 15
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mind is blown.
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post #2 of 15
a little top heavy on the pocket money but they are always going to milk the market with the new technology...

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/RicohGXR/
post #3 of 15
Don't understand coupling the most future-proof part of the camera (lens) to the obsolete-the-day-you-bought-it sensor. Also don't understand why there isn't a regular 50mm instead of this colossal macro thing that is the size of my fist. 50mm non-macro with a Foveon might get my wallet out.
post #4 of 15
Its so ugly.
post #5 of 15
It's a stupid system, from a photographer's perspective. What happens when the sensor technology gets better? I'll have to ditch all these old sensors and/or lenses. It's great for Ricoh, though, because they get to sell you a brand new sensor every time you buy a new lens from them. What a scam! And shame on them for trying.
post #6 of 15
^+1

Retarded system.
post #7 of 15
Thread Starter 
the combined lens+sensor unit puts me off too, but throwing away entire camera bodies every 18 months is no picnic either.
post #8 of 15
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Originally Posted by aizan View Post
the combined lens+sensor unit puts me off too, but throwing away entire camera bodies every 18 months is no picnic either.

Good dSLRs have been "good enough" for a while now. I bought an E-3 last year and don't plan on replacing it for a long time. Unless you're a pro or are totally obsessed with having the latest and greatest, it's a poor use of money imo. Anyway, Ricoh isn't exactly a big player and this product will surely be a dud.
post #9 of 15
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so, is there some reason why you'd hypothetically replace the a12 unit (the 33/2.5 macro) sooner than you would replace something like the e-3? i don't think money is really an issue with this camera.
post #10 of 15
I thought the point of this system is that you now have the freedom to play around with your sensor sizes and thus your depth of fields as well?

A small sensor (i.e. the one packaged with their zoom) will have much, much, much greater depth of field than a large sensor. I'm not a video person myself, but I was under the impression that video people much prefer greater depth of field. Certainly for street photography, greater depth of field means less precision required for focus which is nice if you are photographing from the hip or just judging focus distances by eye.

A large sensor coupled with a fast, long lens will give you wafer thin depth of field which has its own applications too.

I haven't written off the system yet, the Ricoh interface is one of my favourites, but I'm surprised they didn't make a 28mm or 35mm equivalent. 50mm equiv is a bit long.
post #11 of 15
Also ...

F U Ricoh, just make a GRD IV with a large sensor and win the war. Leica is already thiiiiiiis close.
post #12 of 15
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if they made that with an image stabilized aps-c sensor and interchangeable lenses (35/2.8 and 28/2.8 equiv. to start), everyone would be lining up. aside from the deep depth-of-field, switching to a smaller sensor format is the only way you're going to get small, collapsible zoom lenses. i can't fathom why ricoh thinks these things are that important.
post #13 of 15
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Originally Posted by aizan View Post


if they made that with an image stabilized aps-c sensor and interchangeable lenses (35/2.8 and 28/2.8 equiv. to start), everyone would be lining up.

aside from the deep depth-of-field, switching to a smaller sensor format is the only way you're going to get small, collapsible zoom lenses. i can't fathom why ricoh thinks these things are that important.

yeh, but they didn't did they? I bet someone got sacked over there at their design centre.
post #14 of 15
I have my doubts about this. It is a very maker-specific product to a line that is not hugely-distributed. And as another poster said, it marries the lens, a durable and arguably the best aspect of Ricoh cameras to an ephemeral digital chip. They would have better had two modules, one the digital chip and processor and the other the lens, or more than one body, which is essentially the same thing. Unlike the 4/3ds and M4/3rds cameras which allow swapping across different makers lines easily (Panasonic and Olympus bodies, Panasonic, Leica and Olympus glass), the Ricoh buyer is captive to one camera line within the brand. I really wish they had made a 4/3rd line of lenses. Ricoh set a high bar for themselves with the GR1 35mm film camera, which was one of the best small cameras made, and reasonably priced, also. The GR digital was an ideal follow-on effort, and some of their small digital zoom cameras are excellent as well. Even though Ricoh is a manufacturer more like Canon and Minolta, with a substantial non photographic manufacturing base, their lens quality is very like Fujifilm, among the best made.
post #15 of 15
like above, i find there no reason to go with the GXR system over the current generation of EVIL cameras, esp. considering the negligible size differences, in addition to the cost of the GXR system.
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