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post #76 of 97
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Originally Posted by TheDarkKnight View Post
I think this is how Chan work when they come to London - from email correspondence -


"We actually do not provide fittings for mail order like yours and instead you are recommended to wear your best fitting suit when you come for measurement taking.
We will take down all relevant data from your suit while in the meantime let you have a mock fitting with the aid of a basted jacket our representative will be carrying with him for this purpose. After all these done, we will go ahead for making and send you the garments after completion. Should garment fail to come out to your entire satisfaction and alteration be necessary, we would be liable to do so."

This does make me slightly nervous also, so I'll be doing more reading around etc first

I will just say that Chan does excellent work, and they are extremely pleasant people to deal with--and I have purchased 16 jackets, 1 suit (with another suit on order) and 5 shirts from them.
post #77 of 97
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Originally Posted by dragon8 View Post
Suits or shirts?

doesn't matter. anything that provides price transparency is welcome!
post #78 of 97
WW Chan's suits start at $1200USD for VBC fabrics and go up from there. their prices range from $1200 -$2700

Gordon Yao suits range for about the same but has more fabrics for under $2000.
post #79 of 97
Interesting and informative discussion. I will go to A Man for my next suit.

Today I had a good experience with friendly and helpful staff at Ascot Chang IFC. I got 4 Thomas Masons on the way, 2 120s and 2 150s, a couple of plain white, a pink with stripes and a light blue herringbone. Two with french cuffs, two normal. I know, I have difficultites making up my mind.
post #80 of 97
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Originally Posted by clockwise View Post
Interesting and informative discussion. I will go to A Man for my next suit.

Today I had a good experience with friendly and helpful staff at Ascot Chang IFC. I got 4 Thomas Masons on the way, 2 120s and 2 150s, a couple of plain white, a pink with stripes and a light blue herringbone. Two with french cuffs, two normal. I know, I have difficultites making up my mind.

Nothing wrong with being picky.
post #81 of 97
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Nothing wrong with being picky.

And I think it is extra pleasant to be picky in Ascot Chang's comfortable environment with helpful staff.

The shirt shopping experience was excellent, I had a fitting one week after my order and then picked up my 4 new shirts today. It took total of 11 days from order to finished product and it costed considerably more than any other tailor I have used in Hong Kong in the past. But I would be surprised if I don't find it worth the effort and the extra expenditure. The shirts turned out just as I wanted them and I will give it a few weeks before I go back for more.

To make my shopping day complete, I picked up a pair of new J.M. Weston shoes that I had ordered and I got two seven-fold Bulgari ties to go with the shirts. All this happened within the same IFC, where I also celebrated the whole event with a great lunch.

I still have to get over to A-Man for a new suit but that will be another day.
post #82 of 97
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Originally Posted by clockwise View Post
And I think it is extra pleasant to be picky in Ascot Chang's comfortable environment with helpful staff.

The shirt shopping experience was excellent, I had a fitting one week after my order and then picked up my 4 new shirts today. It took total of 11 days from order to finished product and it costed considerably more than any other tailor I have used in Hong Kong in the past. But I would be surprised if I don't find it worth the effort and the extra expenditure. The shirts turned out just as I wanted them and I will give it a few weeks before I go back for more.

To make my shopping day complete, I picked up a pair of new J.M. Weston shoes that I had ordered and I got two seven-fold Bulgari ties to go with the shirts. All this happened within the same IFC, where I also celebrated the whole event with a great lunch.

I still have to get over to A-Man for a new suit but that will be another day.

Sounded like a great day.
post #83 of 97
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Originally Posted by clockwise View Post
And I think it is extra pleasant to be picky in Ascot Chang's comfortable environment with helpful staff.

The shirt shopping experience was excellent, I had a fitting one week after my order and then picked up my 4 new shirts today. It took total of 11 days from order to finished product and it costed considerably more than any other tailor I have used in Hong Kong in the past. But I would be surprised if I don't find it worth the effort and the extra expenditure. The shirts turned out just as I wanted them and I will give it a few weeks before I go back for more.

To make my shopping day complete, I picked up a pair of new J.M. Weston shoes that I had ordered and I got two seven-fold Bulgari ties to go with the shirts. All this happened within the same IFC, where I also celebrated the whole event with a great lunch.

I still have to get over to A-Man for a new suit but that will be another day.



How much did you pay? Let's get those prices transparent!
post #84 of 97
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How much did you pay? Let's get those prices transparent!

As you have pointed out in this thread yourself, Ascot Chang is expensive. I didn't go there in search of value for money but quality. The normal Thomas Masons are HK$ 1,495 and the 150/2-150/2 are HK$ 2,195. That should be GBP 130 and 190 respectively. How does that compare to Savile Row?
post #85 of 97
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Hi,

I just came back from HK from another visit at AMHC. I bought two plain white shirts in Egyptian cotton, a blazer + grey pants and a sports-jacket + brown pants. White shirts were 850 each, the blazer was Super120, Huddersfield (I suspect), navy and together with the grey pants cost me 9.500 HKD. The sportsjacket was something with cashmere included and together with the pants cost me 10.500. So the average was 10k for each "suit". So far I am impressed by the material and feeling, even though...............

As I posted earlier, I also went to YWY and made a couple of jackets/pants/shirts there earlier. I wore both tailors' suits now over 18 months and think that value for money is better at YWY. AMHC's suits are quite nice, but it's just very hard to get what you want from these guys. They really don't treat you as good as they should. I have bought three suits and 10 shirts over the last 18 months, but they still have difficulty in treating you accordingly. Politeness and proactive attitude are not that well developed. I suspect that their walk-in's from the Mandarin just cause this.

YWY has helped me much better to articulate and find what looks/feels better and their quality of tailoring is definitely top. They can make basically everything and try much more to find out what it is you are looking for.

The only I would still go for at AMHC is their shirts. YWY's shirts are crap, not crafted well, loose the cut, buttons come off. AMHC's shirts are top-notch, timeless cut, fine details, fine crafting; sure a bit more pricey, but that's well invested.
post #86 of 97
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Originally Posted by gumbolo View Post
Hi,

I just came back from HK from another visit at AMHC. I bought two plain white shirts in Egyptian cotton, a blazer + grey pants and a sports-jacket + brown pants. White shirts were 850 each, the blazer was Super120, Huddersfield (I suspect), navy and together with the grey pants cost me 9.500 HKD. The sportsjacket was something with cashmere included and together with the pants cost me 10.500. So the average was 10k for each "suit". So far I am impressed by the material and feeling, even though...............

As I posted earlier, I also went to YWY and made a couple of jackets/pants/shirts there earlier. I wore both tailors' suits now over 18 months and think that value for money is better at YWY. AMHC's suits are quite nice, but it's just very hard to get what you want from these guys. They really don't treat you as good as they should. I have bought three suits and 10 shirts over the last 18 months, but they still have difficulty in treating you accordingly. Politeness and proactive attitude are not that well developed. I suspect that their walk-in's from the Mandarin just cause this.

YWY has helped me much better to articulate and find what looks/feels better and their quality of tailoring is definitely top. They can make basically everything and try much more to find out what it is you are looking for.

The only I would still go for at AMHC is their shirts. YWY's shirts are crap, not crafted well, loose the cut, buttons come off. AMHC's shirts are top-notch, timeless cut, fine details, fine crafting; sure a bit more pricey, but that's well invested.

May I ask who is your salesman at AMHC? I found Peter is more helpful. Norman is just so-so. One more thing to ask, pals said AMHC butonholes get better now, are they?
post #87 of 97
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Hi Fishball,

it's usually Peter, but he's not always available. Either he is out or he's busy with other customers. So many times Mr.Poon himself jumped in or one of the other guys. Don't get me wrong, they are not really rude and do their job. However, if you spend this amount of money on something you want to have a proactiveness to a certain degree. But instead, you need to push them for giving you advice and also they always sound like"ok, if you really really want to, i can make xyz for you...".

Buttonholes really got better, I also realized. I compared them to WWC on another post, at least equal and look very fine now.
post #88 of 97
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Originally Posted by gumbolo View Post
Hi Fishball,

it's usually Peter, but he's not always available. Either he is out or he's busy with other customers. So many times Mr.Poon himself jumped in or one of the other guys. Don't get me wrong, they are not really rude and do their job. However, if you spend this amount of money on something you want to have a proactiveness to a certain degree. But instead, you need to push them for giving you advice and also they always sound like"ok, if you really really want to, i can make xyz for you...".

Buttonholes really got better, I also realized. I compared them to WWC on another post, at least equal and look very fine now.

I see what you mean.
For my personal experenice, it is not about the money spend, it is some kind of chemistry.
For them the suit is just bread and butter, nothing fancy or special.
You may said they are very old fashioned people and shop, and indeed they are.
post #89 of 97
Very informative discussion. I will bring my own fabric to try Yao and YWY to see how my suits turn out and how much they charge me. I got Dormeuil Summer Amadeus fabric for A$170 /meter from Dormeuil Distributor in Australia. Auy comments about Dormeuil Summer Amadeus fabric and its price?
post #90 of 97
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Originally Posted by gumbolo View Post
Hi,

I just came back from HK from another visit at AMHC. I bought two plain white shirts in Egyptian cotton, a blazer + grey pants and a sports-jacket + brown pants. White shirts were 850 each, the blazer was Super120, Huddersfield (I suspect), navy and together with the grey pants cost me 9.500 HKD. The sportsjacket was something with cashmere included and together with the pants cost me 10.500. So the average was 10k for each "suit". So far I am impressed by the material and feeling, even though...............

As I posted earlier, I also went to YWY and made a couple of jackets/pants/shirts there earlier. I wore both tailors' suits now over 18 months and think that value for money is better at YWY. AMHC's suits are quite nice, but it's just very hard to get what you want from these guys. They really don't treat you as good as they should. I have bought three suits and 10 shirts over the last 18 months, but they still have difficulty in treating you accordingly. Politeness and proactive attitude are not that well developed. I suspect that their walk-in's from the Mandarin just cause this.

YWY has helped me much better to articulate and find what looks/feels better and their quality of tailoring is definitely top. They can make basically everything and try much more to find out what it is you are looking for.

The only I would still go for at AMHC is their shirts. YWY's shirts are crap, not crafted well, loose the cut, buttons come off. AMHC's shirts are top-notch, timeless cut, fine details, fine crafting; sure a bit more pricey, but that's well invested.

Ok, back-paddling big time, the YWY suit-jackets are crap! There is too few/no canvassing on the chest-area, so the whole thing looks super wobbly. That's totally unacceptable. It's not only one, but all suit-jackets made there...hm....that's indeed weird, as I was hoping I could wear the suits much longer. The AMHC suits are completely fine. I even went back there for further fitting and they just did it, of course with a little bit of the usual protest, but fine....will travel to HK again in April and get more stuff there.

I wanted to get a Covert Coat at AMHC, any experiences there anyone?
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