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post #1 of 36
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We have a thread for cigarettes, may as well have one for their redneck cousins. Just out of curiosity, does anyone else use chew, dip or nasal snuff?

Or for that matter, has anyone ever even seen dip north of the Mason-Dixon? I gather that it's a pretty southern/western thing.

Other than chewing tobacco, it's not really something one does for the flavor at all. I tend to use Skoal mint pouches (for convenience) or long cut, or occaisionally peach. Never tried Cope.

It's rather addictive and off-putting, but the buzz is quite nice.
post #2 of 36
Good God man...you have to stop immediately. Have you ever met anyone who's developed mouth or jaw cancer from that stuff? It is the most hideous, painful disease you'll ever encounter. I've smoked for damn near thirty years, and do so knowing full well what I am risking (or, more accurately, bringing upon myself). I used Cope for a time, because of the "quite nice" buzz. But when I ran across a dude with cancer in his jaw, and saw what he was going through, I swore it off. Please, you do the same.
post #3 of 36
I know some pople who dipped at prep school when they didn't want the smell of smoke to alert the powers. Also some baseball players. It is a particularly nasty habit, as tobacco use goes.
post #4 of 36
It was pretty popular with the wrestlers in my HS. They would chew and spit their nasty juice all over the parking lot. Evidently they did this to dehydrate themselves to try and "make weight".

I tried it once or twice, and uh, its pretty disgusting. I'll stick to the coffin nails.
post #5 of 36
Here's a great site for all of the smokeless tobacco users...

http://www.quitsmokeless.org/
post #6 of 36
Snuff was popular in Imperial China until the Communists hence the large amount of snuff bottles available.

It was supposed to have certain medical properties for breathing problems, etc.
post #7 of 36
I grew up in TN, and every unwashed redneck had a story of waking up in the night and reaching for a drink in the dark only to swallow the contents of their own spit cup.
post #8 of 36
Like Slim said, lots of wrestlers in high school, or guys who just thought they were tough or rebels or something, would dip. They'd wait until the teacher's back was turned and spit into an old soda bottle or whatever. Pretty gross.

I worked in a furniture warehouse during summers off from college and a lot of guys there would dip. They would just spit on the floor and you'd walk all over it, or into the racks if they were on a picker, trying to get it through the open space in the back, or right on the floor of the trailers as we were unloading. I'm sure many people have bought 3 thousand dollar sofas and gotten them delivered with brown leaves and smearsall over the plastic.

Smoking I can tolerate, and have partaken in, but any actvity that makes your spit come in contact with me and my person just turns me into Howard Hughes. "NO GERMS!!!"
post #9 of 36
i chew on and off. mostly off. i like to chew when i have to clean my apartment, work with tools/build something, write research papers or help people move. it helps me concentrate/get motivated i guess. i realize it is terrible and don't do it often.
post #10 of 36
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Good God man...you have to stop immediately. Have you ever met anyone who's developed mouth or jaw cancer from that stuff? It is the most hideous, painful disease you'll ever encounter. I've smoked for damn near thirty years, and do so knowing full well what I am risking (or, more accurately, bringing upon myself). I used Cope for a time, because of the "quite nice" buzz. But when I ran across a dude with cancer in his jaw, and saw what he was going through, I swore it off. Please, you do the same.

While there are no "positives" to any cancer, there is some controversy over the relative danger of smokeless tobacco. Some physicians contend/data suggest that, aggregate, rates of cancer in smokeless tobacco users are lower than those in smokers. So if all smokers switched to smokeless, the overall rate of cancer would actually be lower (though mouth cancer would certainly be more common). So smokeless tobacco is less deadly, i.e., (cringe) safer. It's a little controversial, and I wouldn't make the argument with your jaw cancer dude.

A lot of guys I knew dipped in HS. I'm from north of the Mason-Dixon. I wonder what the wrestling connection is. I used to dip every once in awhile, usually when I was drunk, but the combination of drunkenness/inexperience usually led to some swallowing, then ralphing. I don't do that anymore.
post #11 of 36
Many of my HS wrestling teammates dipped (Boston suburb). Wrestlers generally dip because (a) smoking really kills your endurance, (b) dipping gives you a nice buzz to keep your mind of the hour long ride on the bike in the boiler room, and (c) it makes you spit, particularly helpful when every ounce counts. I once saw an ex-teammate's gum literally eroding. It was black and purple and had holes in it. I haven't thought about dipping ever since.
post #12 of 36
ive done it when i would run out of smokes, and the guy that i worked with had dip. i like the taste of unflavored, but its a little too much. ill stick with my american spirit roll ups.
post #13 of 36
One time when I was really drunk in high school I mistook a bar of chew for a chocolate candy bar. Wasn't pretty.
post #14 of 36
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Originally Posted by DarkNWorn
I once saw an ex-teammate's gum literally eroding. It was black and purple and had holes in it. I haven't thought about dipping ever since.

I wonder why...since it sounds so good.

Jon.
post #15 of 36
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Originally Posted by whoopee
I know some pople who dipped at prep school when they didn't want the smell of smoke to alert the powers. Also some baseball players. It is a particularly nasty habit, as tobacco use goes.

yea what was it with prep school...

Pretty much 90% of the guys dipped... whichever classrooms that had carpets would have these wet brown stains everywhere. That or the ubiquitous plastic water bottle with an inch and a half of hell in it.

It smelled like they were putting a handful of menthol in their mouth. I don't know how that's fun.
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