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post #1 of 24
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I'll start by saying that this is not an aportnoy shoe damage thread. This is more like the very poor cousin of the aportnoy shoe threads. Anyway, Herring Shoes carries Loake and Church seconds and I was looking for an everyday, workshorse shoe so I figured I tried their 1880 Loake seconds. I had read on AAAC that their seconds were, for the most part, shoes with the most minor of cosmetic issues, if any at all. I ordered a pair of "Twynings" (according to AAAC, these are Durhams, but were made for Tyrwhitt) and a pair of Norwichs. The Twynings had a very minor loose stitch on the tongue and the Norwichs had a small surface scuff on the back which quickle came off with polish. Other than that, the shoes are brand newand I had to really look for those flaws to find them. All in, after Mark Herring was kind enough to accomodate me with a lower shipping than what is stated on his site, the shoes were $220 right to my doorstep. Shipped Thursday, arrived today. It's about an $80-100 or so savings from the Tywhitt 50% off sale. Here are the pics:




The Norwichs side by side with the C&J Weymouths. The Weymouths are much more elegant and the construction cleaner but the Loakes definitely hold their own and any differences in the leather are almost imperceptable. Not bad for a $110 shoe.
post #2 of 24
I've been looking at theose Norwich seconds for a while - I may just have to spring for them now.
post #3 of 24
Ed,

Well done on achieveing a great" look"-to- cost ratio; you know, a "flaw" becomes meaningless, if not camouflaged, while making the daily trek through NYC; I remember an old gf bought me a pair of gucci oxfords when i first started on wall st.; first day of wear, while on the subway as a strap-hanger, a rather large woman in heels lurches onto my foot, puncturing the damn shoe.
post #4 of 24
I am new to the forum and have found it very enlightening. I've been looking to order the Norwich from CT @ 50% off, but it seems I would be better off ordering them from Herring. BTW the shoes look great, very nice choice. I can't afford to spend $500 and up on shoes and I am hoping to upgrade my current outdated collection. If I usually wear a 10D US, do you think a 1/2 size down will be sufficient? I was in NYC on Sat and tried on some shoes at CT and it appeared that I would need to drop down a full size, not just a 1/2. I appreciate your help...I am new to all of this...
post #5 of 24
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Shipping to the US is pretty hefty (23GBP) and if you are only planning on getting the Norwichs you might be better off going through the Tyrwhitt 50% off sale but if you buy more than one pair like I did, Mark Herring was kind enough to ship both for 23GBP so I made out. Plus the fact that the Twynings were only 49.99 GBP with the VAT (they are now 69.99), it was an easy purchase to make
post #6 of 24
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Originally Posted by blaidan
I am new to the forum and have found it very enlightening. I've been looking to order the Norwich from CT @ 50% off, but it seems I would be better off ordering them from Herring. BTW the shoes look great, very nice choice. I can't afford to spend $500 and up on shoes and I am hoping to upgrade my current outdated collection. If I usually wear a 10D US, do you think a 1/2 size down will be sufficient? I was in NYC on Sat and tried on some shoes at CT and it appeared that I would need to drop down a full size, not just a 1/2. I appreciate your help...I am new to all of this...

I am a 10.5 US and I ordered a 9.5Uk and they fit fine. Definitely go down a full size.
post #7 of 24
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Originally Posted by andrebaron
Ed,

Well done on achieveing a great" look"-to- cost ratio; you know, a "flaw" becomes meaningless, if not camouflaged, while making the daily trek through NYC; I remember an old gf bought me a pair of gucci oxfords when i first started on wall st.; first day of wear, while on the subway as a strap-hanger, a rather large woman in heels lurches onto my foot, puncturing the damn shoe.

Thanks AB, NYC is tough on shoes and I am too much of a softy to wear Mantellasi, C&J or my Zegna coutures on a day-to-day basis, It's stupid because they are only shoes and they are meant to be worn but what can I say.
post #8 of 24
Thanks for the advice. It seems like too good of a deal not to buy at least two pairs. Did you call the shop or did you order through email?
post #9 of 24
Over the years I have noticed this law of science: you could wear a lowest echelon stuff to work or play--and NOTHING will happen, as if its made of f-g Kryptonite.
Then, with brimming confidence, you unleash your prized acquisition -- new bespoke suit, tailored shirt, whatever--and disaster strikes.
post #10 of 24
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blaidan: I asked for the shipping discount through email. Herring did not respond right away and I got ansy so I just put the order in through the website. The following day, Mark emailed me informing me that they received my order and that he would be only charging me 23GBP to ship. He did not have to do that since my order was already in. It speaks to their customer service.

AB: That's like "NYC 101", it happens without fail. I knew a guy who drove a clunker and he took care of it like it was made of glass and nothing ver happend. One day he splurged and purchased a new luxury car. Driving out of the dealer's garage on the westside, someone slammed right into him.
post #11 of 24
that pair of norwich is much more than it looks on either ctshirts or pediwear. it may have just made its way onto my "to buy" list.
post #12 of 24
Quote:
AB: That's like "NYC 101", it happens without fail. I knew a guy who drove a clunker and he took care of it like it was made of glass and nothing ver happend. One day he splurged and purchased a new luxury car. Driving out of the dealer's garage on the westside, someone slammed right into him.
I'd argue that has to do with the wearer/owner's attitude more than anything. I hate to say this but any accidents I've had with well made/expensive stuff is usually due to me having too much confidence, not thinking clearly, and then being careless. My pink, perfectly tailored Baron Boutique shirt that I had just gotten was worn to a Thanksgiving dinner with pride. Too much pride. Until after dinner, outside, not only hot chocolate but a tiny marshmallow found its way onto my shirt, and I didn't even notice it until I went inside. Thank God for stain remover and washing machines (set to delicates and cold water of course). It looks fine right now, but it could have been worse!
post #13 of 24
Ed-

I've been looking at the Twynings for a bit now, I was concerned about the lower price that they weren't from the 1880 line, and thus not calf leather. Can you confirm? Thanks, and best regards.
post #14 of 24
Thread Starter 
I'm not a calf leather expert but I would say that I am at least 95% sure that the Twynings are simply the 1880 Durham's and thus calf leather. The Norwich and Twyning have the same full leather sole and heels as the Norwich and my understanding is that the non 1880 Loakes have full rubber heels whereas the 1880's have rubber inserts on the heels. The Twyning has a rubber insert on the heel, just like the Norwich.
post #15 of 24
Well done, Ed. I recently purchased the Norwich from Pediwear and share your enthusiasm.
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