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Yeah, but his system will smoke yours, running Leisure Suit Larry.

I think we were talking about Games, not Piobaire lifestyle simulators.
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I think we were talking about Games, not Piobaire lifestyle simulators.

Dood, turn the snark to the proper target.
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Dood, turn the snark to the proper target.

+1 (which is either coldarchon or Apple )
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Dood, turn the snark to the proper target.
Jeez. Quit crying. Someone might actually need to feel sorry for you sometime, and you'll have wasted it on this stupid shit. Oh, and shut up Jon.
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Jeez. Quit crying. Someone might actually need to feel sorry for you sometime, and you'll have wasted it on this stupid shit.

Oh, and shut up Jon.

It's not about me. It's about snarking coldarchon. Priorities, that's all I'm saying.
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It's not about me. It's about snarking coldarchon. Priorities, that's all I'm saying.
I will wait to see how/if he benchmarks. I'll take anything. 3dMark, whatever. As long as it's free or readily available on torrent.
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Jeez. Quit crying. Someone might actually need to feel sorry for you sometime, and you'll have wasted it on this stupid shit.

Oh, and shut up Jon.

Dude after the nonsense with Brian, you brought it on yourself... now back to the regularly scheduled snarking of coldarchon
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Dude after the nonsense with Brian, you brought it on yourself... now back to the regularly scheduled snarking of coldarchon
I don't mean shut up about this, I mean in general. Brian brought that "nonsense" upon himself by coming into that thread and starting shit.
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I am curious. I can't find any Win98SE vs. Vista benchmark comparisons out there. Nor any Win98SE vs XP SP2 or SP3. I wonder why that is.
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I am curious. I can't find any Win98SE vs. Vista benchmark comparisons out there. Nor any Win98SE vs XP SP2 or SP3. I wonder why that is.

Windows 98 does not have drivers for new hardware.
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I don't mean shut up about this, I mean in general.
Brian brought that "nonsense" upon himself by coming into that thread and starting shit.

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Originally Posted by chobochobo View Post
Are you making that up in HK? I'm tempted by the 27" Imac, I saw it the other day, and it's very nice indeedy. It was setup in a shop, right next to the 24" that is my current machine and the monitor is an amazing improvement....

Yup making it up in HK. Not considering the mac. I spend a good deal of my time on a mac and I don't want it at home.

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Yeah, I was wondering if it was possible to get cheap parts in Hong Kong or the Mainland. Here in the US, there's Newegg and a ton of cheap internet retailers. Though of course most of the stuff is actually made in China to begin with.

I haven't been in the computer shops recently, but I would say from past experience that the online retailers in the US do a pretty good job of keeping the prices dirt cheap. We do however have ready access to a host of cheap HK/Taiwan branded alternatives. We end up having cheaper prices brand for brand but also have cheaper brands and really cheap stuff like PSU's/cases etc.

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Originally Posted by Ace Rimmer View Post
Good choice on the CPU; the 920 is probably the best bang for the buck & rich upgrade path CPU in the Intel Core i5/i7 family right now. Also very cheap at $199. Caution: if you intend to overclock it most of the "skyscraper" type CPU coolers for the LGA1366 will be far too large for a microATX case.

Instead of the 4870 series cards, have you considered going with the new HD 5870/5850/5770 cards? They are DX11 compatible (perfect complement to Windows 7) although no games are out yet with DX11.

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Originally Posted by Tokyo Slim View Post
As to the OP... the HD 4800 series cards run loud and hot. I'd tell you to look at the previously mentioned 4770's they are nearly on par performance wise, about 15-25db quieter, and you might even be able to find some that will fit in a mATX case, which you will struggle to do with the 48XX series; as they usually are double wide cards.

Also, trying to cram all that into a small case will be a real pain. You might consider a single card with passive cooling for that reason alone. If you must have a 48XX card, I'd recommend the HSI 4850 ICEQ. It comes in std and factory oc'ed versions and has a *relatively* quiet fan that works better to dissipate heat than most other 4800 series cards I've seen.

The most bang for the buck I've seen (online) are the 48xx's crossfired. I will be looking in the computer malls this weekend, so if I do spot a cheaper 58xx, I'll definitely spring for that. Thanks for the recommendation - I'll take a look at the HSI's.

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Originally Posted by whiteslashasian View Post

Most of the hardware proposed seems pretty on point, however I'd caution against an SLI or Crossfire configuration in an mATX format/case. Heat and noise would create a BIG issue.

I have an overclocked e8400 (to 3.8ghz prime stable) cooled by a Scythe Mini Ninja on an Asus P5E-VM HDMI, 8800gts (512mb), two 500gb hard drives, 4gb OCZ OC'd ram, and a higher end modular Thermaltake PSU. All of this is inside a Lian Li PC-V350 and looks remarkably similar to this setup:

I haven't kept up with the BLEEDING edge hardware lately but from what I can see, the ATI and Nvidia have been coming up with some great stuff. The ATi 5850 might be best bang for buck around at the moment (and small enough for mATX).


I used to own a shuttle and it ran hot & loud 99% of the time I had it on. After the first few days, I just left the case open permanently and in the Winter ran it outside my window haha. In regards to the current build, I opted for an mATX build because I like the smaller case aesthetic and have no real concern for upgradeability/expansion.

I will probably scout for a size in between the cube type case and a mid-tower case (does that exist?). Been looking at a few of the SUGO silverstone cases and they seem from pictures to be similar to what I want. I'll have to check them out in person. Your photo looks pretty on point with what I'm looking for too. The lian li cases definitely seem to be the type of design I'm looking for as well! Thanks. Really have to look at the heat issue.

Are there any small mid-tower cases that would alleviate this problem? or should I stick w/ a larger mATX case w/ better cooling solution?

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Originally Posted by GQgeek View Post
Don't get an OCZ SSD, get the Intel X25-M. There is a huge difference in performance. It's also 80GB instead of 32, and can be had for a good price these days. Make sure you get the 34nm version as it's apparently seen significant improvements over the first gen devices (which are still better than ocz).

I'll take a look into that. Opted for the smaller one because of the cost really. Trying to keep the whole build ~10k HKD or ~1300 USD.


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Originally Posted by turboman808 View Post
Why build a computer at all?

Just get a Popcorn Hour, Xbox360 or PS3. The new popcorn hours functions as a server as well so I have officially gotten rid of all the computers in my house.

I like computers. Nothing like a w/asd keyboard config for an FPS!


Btw, does anyone know how much wattage I'll need for my proposed build? I have no idea... Also looking at a few interesting and fun cooling options, but I guess that solution will depend on my final case

I think something I need to add for some of the posters here is that... This is fun. Don't deprive me of my building my own PC!
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Btw, does anyone know how much wattage I'll need for my proposed build? I have no idea... Also looking at a few interesting and fun cooling options, but I guess that solution will depend on my final case

With all the crap you plan on cramming into the case, plan for a bare minimum of 850w. Your video cards are using over 500w all by themselves at load.
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