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post #9316 of 9842
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Originally Posted by dah328 View Post
Yeah, that was yesterday and Matt was not trolling you. Disagreeing with SteveB != trolling. I would quote those posts to demonstrate that fact except for the following (rather convenient for you) occurrence:


It's rough having to defend those beliefs, huh? Grow some thicker skin.

AND I would retrieve and post the other 5 posts that were personal attacks before that. At that point I call trolling. With me and any other member who reports a post.

I was discussing my belief about AF and being trolled.

My thin or thick skin is frankly none of your business.

Engaging me on the merits of my arguments is fine. Calling me an idiot, etc. is not. No other moderator would tolerate it either.
post #9317 of 9842
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Originally Posted by Steve B. View Post
Engaging me on the merits of my arguments is fine.

Isn't that what people in that thread did?
post #9318 of 9842
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post
We had two bottles between the five of us .
Jesus, might as well have consumed water.
post #9319 of 9842
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Originally Posted by why View Post
Isn't that what people in that thread did?
That was more or less how I read it (wasn't paying that much attention, so take my observations with a grain of salt), although there may have been some personal needling (certainly nothing I saw that even came close to exceeding what happens all the time). I don't recall Steve being called an idiot, but I don't think I read all the posts, either.
post #9320 of 9842
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Originally Posted by Tokyo Slim View Post
Maybe he should. I don't see your name on this list.


Nor is it listed under your responsibilities in the "Forum Leaders" section:


And if I remember correctly, (and I usually do) you stepped down as a Mod in CE so that you could participate in it without bias. So since you are now MODDING in there again, WITH BIAS, I expect to see you not posting in there anymore.

Sooooo.
What is the story here?

Slim seems to have a very good point.
post #9321 of 9842
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Originally Posted by Steve B. View Post
AND I would retrieve and post the other 5 posts that were personal attacks before that. At that point I call trolling. With me and any other member who reports a post.

I was discussing my belief about AF and being trolled.

My thin or thick skin is frankly none of your business.

Engaging me on the merits of my arguments is fine. Calling me an idiot, etc. is not. No other moderator would tolerate it either.

If every thread in which a person was trolled or insulted was squirreled, there would be no threads left. It seems there is an issue with the selective application of judgment to only a thread involving yourself. You're a mod. You have the power to do as you please. But it looks odd to use your power for self-serving purposes when that power is not used to moderate the exact same conduct that occurs to other people all the time.

I would think a mod would recuse himself from making such a decision when he is an involved party simply to avoid the appearance of impropriety.
post #9322 of 9842
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Originally Posted by zbromer View Post
I would think a mod would recuse himself from making such a decision when he is an involved party simply to avoid the appearance of impropriety.

I recall this is why SteveB relinquished his CE mod badge; so he could take part in discussions there.
post #9323 of 9842
C'mon guys. You know that the right way to complain about a mod is first to take it up with the mod in PM (cc j and/or me if you wish,) and then to take it up with j or me if you think that the matter is serious enough. All you hippies think it's still the 60's, what with all your public protests and singing of Kumbaya.

Fok.
post #9324 of 9842
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post
C'mon guys. You know that the right way to complain about a mod is first to take it up with the mod in PM (cc j and/or me if you wish,) and then to take it up with j or me if you think that the matter is serious enough. All you hippies think it's still the 60's, what with all your public protests and singing of Kumbaya.

Fok.

Hippies only understand other hippies, man.

Sorry if I violated protocol.
post #9325 of 9842
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post
C'mon guys. You know that the right way to complain about a mod is first to take it up with the mod in PM (cc j and/or me if you wish,) and then to take it up with j or me if you think that the matter is serious enough. All you hippies think it's still the 60's, what with all your public protests and singing of Kumbaya.

Fok.

this is moar entertaining d00d.
post #9326 of 9842
you know, when I go to the trouble of a good natured 'that's enough' post...and then five people decide 'you know, it's not really enough, I have something more to say' - I get pissed. Very quickly. I would not recommend this for anyone... I have taken over that thread now - there I said it - you wanna play in there, play by my rules, or timeouts will follow, I don't care who you are. You wanna discuss moderation policies, that's totally fine - it is why we have a thread called 'transparent moderation' - conduct it here all you like, or PM any of us and we will be more than willing to take it up either with you directly, or among ourselves and let you know, but when one of us says 'enough' - it means 'enough'.
post #9327 of 9842
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Originally Posted by m@T View Post
you know, when I go to the trouble of a good natured 'that's enough' post...and then five people decide 'you know, it's not really enough, I have something more to say' - I get pissed. Very quickly. I would not recommend this for anyone...

I have taken over that thread now - there I said it - you wanna play in there, play by my rules, or timeouts will follow, I don't care who you are.

You wanna discuss moderation policies, that's totally fine - it is why we have a thread called 'transparent moderation' - conduct it here all you like, or PM any of us and we will be more than willing to take it up either with you directly, or among ourselves and let you know, but when one of us says 'enough' - it means 'enough'.

When you guys talk about this thread or that thread can you plz link to said thread so I can see what all the hubaloo is about?

K
post #9328 of 9842
Anyone know a good source for Acai berries?
post #9329 of 9842
^not anymore
post #9330 of 9842
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post
C'mon guys. You know that the right way to complain about a mod is first to take it up with the mod in PM (cc j and/or me if you wish,) and then to take it up with j or me if you think that the matter is serious enough. All you hippies think it's still the 60's, what with all your public protests and singing of Kumbaya. Fok.
A lot of people wonder why Steve makes threads/posts disappear at his whim, and I doubt most of them would feel comfortable about PMing him given this and how he might react to the criticism. As such, if you/j get fifteen PMs that you have to respond to personally, rather than just fifteen posts in this thread that you can address with ONE reply, it seems more open and easier for you mods (and everybody else) this way. Besides, I don't think anybody really wants any punitive measures or anything that serious... just that maybe Steve agree to give up CE moderating powers if he wants to be an active participant. Just my two cents, FWIW. Being a mod is the least enviable, least enjoyable, most headache-worthy job in the world, I know. EDIT: Oops, didn't realize the original thread in question was back in CE. Okay, I'll shut up now.
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