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post #16 of 23
IMHO:

While building a shoe wardrboe: over about $1200, and you should shell out for bespoke. I don't think paying more than that for RTW makes any sense.
Once your wardrobe is pretty solid, just go bespoke and buy the odd RTW that strikes your fancy.

I am, I am happy to report, now in the "second" stage of this progression.
post #17 of 23
I would not buy a bespok shoe unless it was something that I could not find RTW. I have seen plenty of bespoke shoes. Some are nice, some are ugly, some are even mine. I have to say that I have a few pairs of very high end RTW shoes that are much nicer looking (to my eyes) than anything I have seen bespoke.

One other thing to remember about bespoke is that the shoes look a bit like your feet. I am not sure that is a positive. I would rather a shoe look great, feel great and be available than to bespeak a shoe and roll the dice. Just my .02.
post #18 of 23
matt, just out of curiosity, what do you think is in a Lattanzi RTW cannot be replicated in a bespoke shoe? You tell them the exact style, you tell them the last shape, you tell them the fiddle-back waist, you tell them how many nails you want in the darn heel. RTW doesn't fit me very well, but even if it did you would never see me paying bespoke prices for a RTW shoe.
post #19 of 23
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Originally Posted by iammatt
I would not buy a bespok shoe unless it was something that I could not find RTW. I have seen plenty of bespoke shoes. Some are nice, some are ugly, some are even mine. I have to say that I have a few pairs of very high end RTW shoes that are much nicer looking (to my eyes) than anything I have seen bespoke.

One other thing to remember about bespoke is that the shoes look a bit like your feet. I am not sure that is a positive. I would rather a shoe look great, feel great and be available than to bespeak a shoe and roll the dice. Just my .02.

--- This is a very important point I believe for obvious reasons. Half the reason I buy a shoe is its design. There is a reason the U Last by Vass is so exceptional from many angles to me and I would shudder to alter that; and they fit me so well anyway. I guess if the shoe fits, etc. etc.
post #20 of 23
i would take vass any day of the week over the lot but from what i saw BG only carries burg & black in a captoe in the U last which is very limited in comparison to all the different types U last the are made.and price comparison to the other shoes for what your getting there is no comparison.BG in the limited U last is 1200.And still a bargain.the one U last that they carry is a double sole. i would think if as a customers would impress upon them and made orders through them for the single sole and variety in the U last .i believe it would be possible and price drop to at least 1000
post #21 of 23
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Originally Posted by zjpj83
matt, just out of curiosity, what do you think is in a Lattanzi RTW cannot be replicated in a bespoke shoe? You tell them the exact style, you tell them the last shape, you tell them the fiddle-back waist, you tell them how many nails you want in the darn heel. RTW doesn't fit me very well, but even if it did you would never see me paying bespoke prices for a RTW shoe.


I can only speak from my own experiences. Something being bespoke does not mean anything to me if it is not a better product. I would be happy to pay for a better product. Simply telling somebody to do something that is outside their specific skill set does not generally lead to a great deal of success. I would not go to H. Huntsman and ask for a jacket that looked like Kiton, and I would not go to Cleverley to get a Norwegian welted shoe.
post #22 of 23
Very true.

And, as you suggest, there is also something to being able to try a shoe on and know exactly what you're getting. With bespoke, there is an element of crossing one's fingers and hoping for the best. I would hope that the more reputable makers would keep working at an order until they got it right.
post #23 of 23
Every time I look at JL Prestige shoes (and consider Vass at BG). When you spend well over $1000 for a pair of shoes it is a crime to get something that is it not exactly what you like - especially with details like the size of the broguing and the welt extension and so forth. Might as well plunk down a little (or a lot, depending where you go; I hope to have my shoes from Janne somewhat soon) more to get shoes that you will absolutely cherish. Bargain shoes, for me, rarely are, because they tend not to be worn. And certainly the fit improvements cannot be overlooked if your feet regularly have problems in RTW lasts, like mine do . Not big ones, just that I have slightly high insteps and tend to blister in the heel for some reason. Again, I think four-figure shoes should not have these issues.
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