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post #16 of 73
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Originally Posted by sho'nuff View Post
learn to embrace both. i find it queer that (even in a tone of jest) mc people have a tone of hostility towards streetwear crowd and their doings, where it is almost nonexistent vice versa.
I think the beef most MC folk have with them is that SW&D is the antithesis of MC - people usually come here to attempt to dress in a timeless fashion, while most of the looks there will probably look dated in days/weeks/months/seasons. Scrolling through their WAYWRN thread, some posts from 6 months back look terribly dated.

Then there is the apparent paradox of paying (sometimes ridiculously) high $$$ for what had its origins as blue-collar wear. And has zero of the 'hardware' features associated with fine clothing - handiwork, finer fabric, rare materials, etc.

And perhaps there might be some of this too:

post #17 of 73
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Originally Posted by apropos View Post


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post #18 of 73
I find it curious that the men in Streetwear are generally far more attractive. It's a pity they waste it on jeans and T-shirts.
post #19 of 73
The big question I have is, do Streetwear enthusiasts buy their clothing and shoes at retail or at deep discount? If most buy at deep discount, then they are spending about as much as they would buying street wear at their local mid-level dept. store (Macy's, Dillards etc.). Thus, the money gone into their wardrobes is not as shocking as some of us might think; they're just buying the brands they want for the price normally paid for Levi's, Dickies etc. I must admit I'd be a little disappointed if this is the case. I personally don't understand the whole "the more obscure/higher quality, the better" mindset in menswear spilling into street clothes/shoes. Yeah, it sort of works for fine men's clothes, but not so much with jeans and a t-shirt. A jean is a jean is a jean, and a t-shirt is a t-shirt is a t-shirt, period (at least IMHO). No one in the real world gives a flying fuck if you spent a grand on your jeans and white t-shirt. Even if these clothing and shoes can be had at marginal prices, I still wouldn't invest in the brands sought after (here) because obtaining those brands still require effort, effort I can't be bothered giving (I'll just buy some Levi's at my Sears instead). With that said, it goes without saying that jeans and t-shirts are essential to any man's wardrobe. Dressing is contextual, of course.
post #20 of 73
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Originally Posted by Scoundrel View Post
I personally don't understand the whole "the more obscure/higher quality, the better" mindset in menswear spilling into street clothes/shoes. Yeah, it sort of works for fine men's clothes, but not so much with jeans and a t-shirt. A jean is a jean is a jean, and a t-shirt is a t-shirt is a t-shirt, period (at least IMHO). No one in the real world gives a flying fuck if you spent a grand on your jeans and white t-shirt. Even if these clothing and shoes can be had at marginal prices, I still wouldn't invest in the brands sought after (here) because obtaining those brands still require effort, effort I can't be bothered giving (I'll just buy some Levi's at my Sears instead).

With that said, it goes without saying that jeans and t-shirts are essential to any man's wardrobe. Dressing is contextual, of course.
One could make the argument that their subculture is built around trends, and thus (initial) obscurity is essential to the equation.

Not saying it's better/worse. Just different.
post #21 of 73
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Originally Posted by pendragon View Post
Actually, I have no objection to street wear, or its crowd, so unbunch your panties. What struck me was the disparity in pricing.
The SW&D clothing is more 'hip' and difficult to find at any discount, making it harder to resell for profit. I'm more interested in niche brands that have specific looks with limited runs that are hard to find vs. major-label designers who churn out lots of product. The fact that we buy smaller labels that are in higher relative demand makes it next to impossible to offer 80% off an item.
post #22 of 73
Interesting, thanks.
post #23 of 73
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Originally Posted by Scoundrel View Post
The big question I have is, do Streetwear enthusiasts buy their clothing and shoes at retail or at deep discount?


I buy all my streetwear off eBay and on sale from a local street-wearish outlet that sells stuff like KMW, Rag & Bone and YMC at 50-90% off. However, palces like that are few and far between. I'm sure a lot of guys buy their stuff on sale from boutiques and stuff that sell it (in the bigger cities), but their discounts only go so far.

Also, thrifting streetwear is like trying to find a needle in a haystack. In my 10+ years of thrifting, I've found only 5-6 streetwear pieces, and they weren't even all that nice (Levis Capitol E/Premium, a couple Steven Alan shirts, etc). It's a smaller following than men's clothing, so finding donated pieces is much harder.
post #24 of 73
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Originally Posted by Scoundrel View Post
A jean is a jean is a jean, and a t-shirt is a t-shirt is a t-shirt, period (at least IMHO).

And a Men's Warehouse suit is navy and made from wool, so no difference to any RLPL suit right?
post #25 of 73
Most of the time not made from wool but polyester, and that is the difference between Streetwear and Denim.
post #26 of 73
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Originally Posted by Duco View Post
Most of the time not made from wool but polyester, and that is the difference between Streetwear and Denim.

This could go on forever - the exact same can be applied to different qualities of denim. I see how the argument could go further with MC, because the quality increase is marked as you go up in price - perhaps not as notable in SW&D.

Prices for high-end clothes in both realms of Style Forum is in my opinion extortionate - but it's only worth as much as people will pay for it. I can't afford high-end stuff, even on sale, so I try to emulate the looks with thrift purchases and cheap garments from the basics-mongers.
post #27 of 73
Well, you are right. And in case of denim I agree on you! Good denim is expensive.
post #28 of 73
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Originally Posted by killua View Post
And a Men's Warehouse suit is navy and made from wool, so no difference to any RLPL suit right?
Correct, but it would not be unreasonable to assert that a $1000 t-shirt has less that sets it apart from a $100 t-shirt, than a $1000 suit from a $100 suit? That the 'headspace' for improvement in a t-shirt is not more limited than in a suit?
post #29 of 73
lots of dumb shit in this thread

suit and streetwear are for two entirely different purposes, end of story
post #30 of 73
It's like arguing over which flavour of icecream is better, nobody honestly thinks that one form of dress is in every way superior to another do they?
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