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post #631 of 1002
The idea is not suspect, in the quality range that would be charging multiple thousands for shoes, they take on the massive responsibility or supporting a factory of skilled labor and a retail operation. Your operation is tailored to your client, however they have to assume the client and take the risk of their shoes not working for everyone.
post #632 of 1002
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Originally Posted by SkinnyGoomba View Post

The idea is not suspect, in the quality range that would be charging multiple thousands for shoes, they take on the massive responsibility or supporting a factory of skilled labor and a retail operation. Your operation is tailored to your client, however they have to assume the client and take the risk of their shoes not working for everyone.

I don't wish to flog a dead horse here but I suspect you didn't really understand the point I was making in my last post. With sincere respect, let me clarify...

Relatively speaking, my $4000.00 whole cut alligator shoes cost more (maybe as much as three times more) to make...in terms of space(leased or otherwise); in terms of time (man hours to produce); in terms of raw materials; in terms of what proportion of the gross income is dedicated to marketing; than the $13,000.00 pair of whole cut alligator shoes.

And, mine are hand welted and hand welt stitched.

What's more, I am personally responsible for every pair that goes out the door not only in terms of workmanship and fit but in terms of reputation--something a large corporation can dodge with a strong publicity campaign...year after year.

Yet somehow, against seemingly impossible odds...and unbelievable as it may seem, without any contempt for the customers' gullibility...I manage to make a decent profit without jacking blue sky up nearly 1000%.

How does he do it???!!! puzzled.gif
post #633 of 1002
We may find agreement in single malts, but I think we may not be able to see eye to eye on this one. Fwiw I completely understand the point you are making. Maybe I'm doing a poor job or articulating my point.
post #634 of 1002
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Originally Posted by SkinnyGoomba View Post

We may find agreement in single malts, but I think we may not be able to see eye to eye on this one. Fwiw I completely understand the point you are making. Maybe I'm doing a poor job or articulating my point.

Hey, no worries...only the malt is important.
post #635 of 1002
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post #636 of 1002
Hiro Yanagimachi
Saddle Loafer in Croc

post #637 of 1002
Thread Starter 
Those are STUNNING
post #638 of 1002
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Originally Posted by mr monty View Post

Hiro Yanagimachi
Saddle Loafer in Croc


Nippon = Crocmeisters a go go...
post #639 of 1002
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Originally Posted by chogall View Post

What kind of prices? :o

 

One piece cut design of Chapel isn't suitable for Crocs IMO. 

It's all relative....but nowhere near the $14K quoted..above rolleyes.gif

 

Agree - that's why the Chapel premium was a touch more than the Becketts....they needed a bigger baby croc to cover the 1 piece pattern (that was 2 baby crocs for a pair of Chapel)..

All the off-cut gone into this pair:

 

 

 

 

 

Imagine the up charge on a size US14 Chapel...

 

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Originally Posted by ThinkDerm View Post


Great croc. They are dried out though. Moisturize.

 

Thank you - I'll take them down to Justin the Shoe Snob when I am town....

 

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Originally Posted by VRaivio View Post

The skins on those pairs must the finest on the market, the scales are so smooth, tiny and clean. They will age very well indeed.

Anyone have info on the pricing of skins of this caliber?

 

2 baby crocs for a pair of Chapel ..... some of US and Italian suppliers can quote upto €500 to €700 per croc skin . 

 

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I'm not going to write it out......you should see for yourself..... biggrin.gif

http://leathersoulhawaii.com/2012/11/02/john-lobb-chapel-iv-lsw/

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Originally Posted by Texasmade View Post


At those prices I'd rather get G&G gator skin shoes. One can only wonder how much bespoke JLP gator/croc skin shoes would cost.

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post #640 of 1002
You are size US 14? Wow must be very painful to shop...

p.s., I actually liked that Lattanzzi pair.
post #641 of 1002
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Originally Posted by chogall View Post

You are size US 14? Wow must be very painful to shop...

p.s., I actually liked that Lattanzzi pair.

I am a 44 - I was told the up charge on a US 14 would be huge.....

 

Good spot on the Lattanzzi.....

post #642 of 1002
Miesten shoe lounge @ Harrods










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post #643 of 1002
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Originally Posted by Ilovelobbs View Post

 

I don't typically knock things I see on the forums I don't like, on accounts of there being other people who may not share my opinion on such, but these may literally be the fuck ugliest shoes I've ever seen in my life.  Kill it with fire.

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post #645 of 1002
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Originally Posted by sridhar3 View Post

 

I don't typically knock things I see on the forums I don't like, on accounts of there being other people who may not share my opinion on such, but these may literally be the fuck ugliest shoes I've ever seen in my life.  Kill it with fire.

 

aesthetics all subjective - this pair was made for some Chinese Billionaire - the salesman at the Lattanzi shop in NYC

told me he paid over $10K....

 

I laughed and said the off-cuts and small pieces in material cost probaby came to no more than $100...

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