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post #106 of 131
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Originally Posted by hymo View Post
Drape the proper way is not yet part of standard Ah Loke cut. You have to impress upon him at the very beginning that is non-negoatiable.

By SF conform, I mean a balanced jacket with a clean back, a generous lapel roll, lightly padded shoulders, a collar that hugs the neck no matter what, a gorge dart to control the lapel crease edge from gaping open (especially important with fused jackets which have no bridle in the lapel crease edge to draw it in), strong waisting, etc.

(Few tailors do full canvassing. Many have not even heard of it, or have not heard of it in decades. The standard construction is the fused jacket.)

Also,almost no tailor in Malaysia does hand-sewn buttonholes anymore, I have so far found 2 exceptions, AL being one of them. But they are done in polyester thread -- most of us who use him supply our own silk twist (unobtainable in Malaysia).

I have been inside maybe 60 or so tailoring shops here in Malaysia and have "interviewed" for technical proficiency maybe 2 dozen tailors. There is not a single accomplished tailor amongst them, as in one I need give no technical direction. But I give technical direction for a living, and manage engineers, so it comes naturally to me.

The shopping malls you named have a particularly high percentage of foreigners/tourists.

If I knew of a better tailor I would be using him already.

This is exceptional. I salute you for your efforts.
post #107 of 131
Thread Starter 
^Yes, I am thinking of charging local tailors money for the pleasure of making me a suit. For the overwhelming majority of them it will be highly educational.

post #108 of 131
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Originally Posted by Stylistix View Post
That gorge dart is placed under the collar / lapel? I thought this was supposed to avoid break in the lapel?

Can one ask Ah Loke for canvassed / pad-stitched lapels?

He made me this:
post #109 of 131
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post #110 of 131
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Originally Posted by hymo View Post
He made me this:

Nice. I'll show him these pictures then lol.
post #111 of 131
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Originally Posted by hymo View Post
I have been inside maybe 60 or so tailoring shops here in Malaysia and have "interviewed" for technical proficiency maybe 2 dozen tailors. There is not a single accomplished tailor amongst them, as in one I need give no technical direction. But I give technical direction for a living, and manage engineers, so it comes naturally to me.

Should have visited Lord's Tailor.

The suit looks sharp.
http://www.lordstailor.com.my/
post #112 of 131
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Originally Posted by nslatter View Post
Should have visited Lord's Tailor.

The suit looks sharp.
http://www.lordstailor.com.my/

You joined to post this

FWIW Have you had any suits done with them?
post #113 of 131
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Should have visited Lord's Tailor.

The suit looks sharp.
http://www.lordstailor.com.my/

I have been inside Lord's Tailor. I have seen his work on real customers. I have inspected his jackets and shirts. It's easy since two of my colleagues at work wear Lord's, both suits and shirts.

Level of make of his jackets is a step above what you would get from non-descript tailors who charge RM600 for CMT, but unfortunately they cost twice as much (RM1200). This is all fused by the way, lapels unpadded, machine sewn buttonholes, etc. The lining is put in by hand, which is unusual nowadays in KL. They have the potential to be an internationally competitive tailoring house (like WWChan) because of how well-organized and professional they are, but they are so successful I doubt they are hungry enough to want to revamp their make and cut, which is very traditional.

The shirts are of provincial quality.

Where Lord's impressed me most is their customer service. They are very Western and modern in that sense, most tailors in KL are poorly educated and belong to the lower income group, with limited English and with a propensity to rip you off unawares. At least with Lord's and Bespoked, you know you along with everyone else (locals and expatriates) will be officially ripped off, with a smile and polished interaction and good English.
post #114 of 131
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Originally Posted by hymo View Post
I think apropos is a net negative to this thread, and clearly walks around with something long, sharp and spiky shoved up him (by an Asian tailor). Stylistix: The "proper" way to provide for drape to allow for upper body ROM is a generous upper back width which will result in vertical folds of cloth in the vicinity of the rear armscye when worn by the customer. However, no tailor I've been to in Malaysia seems to do it this way. Some make a jacket you cannot move in. Suits are largely ceremonial in Malaysia. You get wed in one, you get buried in one. Nobody cares about drape. With Ah Loke, he traditionally puts the drape at the back of the rear upper sleeves, which is generally not done in other parts of the world with more sophisticated tailoring, which results in the messy upper sleeves you see in my linen jacket. I noticed this during the fitting, and told him to clean it up. He told me it will restrict ROM, and I said do it anyway. He then proceeded to pin up the back of the sleeves (where the messiness is) and asked me if I would accept something like that. The jacket felt considerably more restrictive, and no, I cannot live with something like that. So I said to proceed with the sleeves as they are. In my latest suit (the navy DB), I made it clear to him I wanted synthetically clean sleeves and to put all the drape where good tailors put theirs: on the back panel, through a wide upper back. The result is as you see: clean sleeves, with blades of excess cloth in the vicinity of the rear armscye.
Hi there again, I've re-read but I dont see how you create the drape at the upper back, from a clean back (with obvious arm movement restrictions). Since you are a technical person, I believe you directed Ah Loke Tailor to do this? Or maybe a tailor can provide input?
post #115 of 131

I'll be in KL on business in March and have started thinking that I should get a suit/some shirts made. It sounds like Ah Loke is the man to see, but I have roughly no experience with bespoke, so if I go that route, I'll be sure to study hard. The only thing that worries me is that I'll be there for a grand total of one week. Is that enough time?

post #116 of 131

Folks, I have just popped by Ah Loke's shop (finally) to send a shirt for some minor alterations. Very good price & rather reasonable.

 

Also I'm looking to commission a suit for around RM1.5k and he recommended me Trophy 'Super 150s' Made in Italy 100% wool by 'Roberto Fellini' for cloth, in navy. Although it's a little bit over my budget, but it's still okay for me.

 

No doubt about his tailoring skills, I'm sure but what about the cloth. Is it any good?

 

What should I keep an eye out for, especially if this is my first time commissioning a suit with him? He seems very agreeable when I asked him for high armholes, ticket pocket, side vents, etc... Just told him I'll decide when I pick up my shirt from him.

 

Thoughts?

post #117 of 131
Scrap this post, had not noticed that this is a revived thread from ages ago.
post #118 of 131
It is most likely made in China.
post #119 of 131
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Originally Posted by terrorsquad View Post

It is most likely made in China.


 

Thanks for the heads-up! You got PM, dude.

post #120 of 131

And so I had the good fortune to meet up with terrorsquad & talk about finally taking a dip into Malaysian bespoke suits and he sold me that beautiful 4.8-meter long Harrison's Mystique cloth in navy. It's in the exact shade of navy that I was looking for.

 

Can't wait to get measured up!

 

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