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post #946 of 1289
Yeah I figured must be unused holes for the stitching. Does the leather in yours all look the same? Or does it vary like mine?
post #947 of 1289
If it really bothers you then exchange them. To answer your question, they're not made of full-grain leather.
post #948 of 1289
I am going a bit crazy trying to figure out what size I need. I bought a 9.5, 10, and 10.5 with the intention of returning what doesn't fit. The 9.5 and 10 are narrow, and the 10.5 is straight up way to big in all directions. So now I am thinking of trying wide sizes. How much width do these add if I get them in EE?

Thanks.
post #949 of 1289
i had a hard time with it too.
i ended up going with wide and just wear thick socks. my feet are happier this way than thin socks in the regular width.
the wide ones add a good amount of width.
post #950 of 1289

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Originally Posted by entrero View Post

they're not made of full-grain leather.


Are you saying his aren't full grain or Katahdins aren't in general?  I corresponded with customer service a few months back when I inquired about the boot's construction here's what they said:

 

Quote:
Outsole is made of Vibram rubber and cork compound. The leather is an oiled full grain cow leather. It has Goodyear® welt construction with a classic Munson last.

 

I think I remember people earlier on in the thread stating that theirs were not full grain and they were able to return them for full grain.

 

post #951 of 1289

What is the visual difference between full and split grain leather?

 

Is it similar to disorder's post up there? The inside of my right shoe is "fuzzy" while the inside of the left shoe is less fuzzy, but not entirely smooth either.

post #952 of 1289
Full vs top vs split grain summed up pretty well here:
http://www.themedsupplyguide.com/work-gloves/full-grain/

Split will be softer than full and fuzzier.
post #953 of 1289
Just got my Katahdin's in today! Shipped in about 2 days. My pair doesn't seem to have any of the grain issues people are returning for. They're definitely a lot darker than pictured too. I'm usually a 10.5 or 11, and went with 10.5 and seems to be the right fit. Maybe could fit in a 10, but I think 10.5 is right. Super stiff leather too - probably gonna have bruises at the end of the day, but worth it in the end as they seem like they're going to break in nicely.
post #954 of 1289
I thought I'd contribute my Katahdin experience. I bought these for $159 from LL Bean in October 2011 for a serious winter and wear them mainly with jeans, and sometimes with chinos. Here's some info:
  • Sizing: I decided to get these in my usual size, 11.5 D (at least on AE 5 last and for Sperry Top-Siders). They are a little loose with dress socks, though not uncomfortably so, and fit perfectly when worn with thick wool socks, which is the main way I wear them. In an 11 D, they would almost certainly be too tight when worn with thick socks, but would probably be okay with dress socks.
  • Treatment: I don't think these boots need to be babied as some have noted, but I do use shoe trees and treat the uppers and welt with Obenauf's LP (literally by hand, a couple coats separated by an hour or so) and water shield (a couple sprayings, separated by an hour or so) when they look like they could use it. My feet have never gotten wet, including an instance where I shoveled snow in them for an hour. I like the darker color they take on after applying Obenauf's, though they lighten up a bit with wear. The orange-ish color of the welt has become slightly more brown over time, but it still retains some of the contrasting color (versus the dark brown sole), which I happen to like.
  • Break-in: I found that they required no break-in. They did not irritate my ankles/legs in the way some have described.
  • Pictures: The pictures are after two coats of Obenauf's.

435

314

403

I thought the pictures with flash were more realistic, but here's one without flash:

300

To show sole and heel wear (not much):

263

201
post #955 of 1289
Damn, This will sound nitpicky, but after looking over the old posts, I'm convinced I have a full grain and a split grain Katahdin boot.
On one, the creases are fewer, deeper and more pronounced on the toe, tongue, body. While on the other there are more creases, but seem shallower.

To use more technical terms, one of the boots has a very fine leather break (many wrinkles per inch), while the other boot has a coarse leather break(fewer, deeper, coarser wrinkles per inch)

Not sure if that implies one is split grain or not.

Any suggestions on what I should do? I didn't think it'd be a big deal, but I'm worried about my boots
Edited by rdstour - 4/16/12 at 8:56pm
post #956 of 1289

Does anyone get a ticking in the shoe when you walk? The heal is sort of disbonding and I think the sound might be the adhesive unsticking, then sticking back again.

When I first got them I had no problems, but now it is almost happening every step.  It's getting pretty annoying now.

post #957 of 1289

I believe I have the same thing going on with my pair as well. 

 

The interior of the leather on one of them is more "fuzzy" than the other.

post #958 of 1289
I have the same uncertainty as many have about what sizing to order, but compounded with that I do not even know my size in US sizing.

How is the sizing related to EU sizes? I really need this spot on as I can not afford to send it back across the Atlantic for an exchange.

I normally wear 42.5 (most 42 are too small, and most 43 are too large).
According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoe_size#Adults), a EUR42.5 would be a US9.5.
However, I have a pair of Allen Edmonds chuckas, they are size 8.5 (perfect fit). That's a full size difference from Wikipedia.
I also have a pair of RM Williams Turnouts in 9G, they are a little too big (that would correspond to a US10). This would also indicate that I'm probably US9.5 in RMW, but the AE are a full size less, is that normal?


Is there any good way to pick the correct size?
Edited by rossi - 6/10/12 at 8:38am
post #959 of 1289
Quote:
Originally Posted by rossi View Post

I have the same uncertainty as many have about what sizing to order, but compounded with that I do not even know my size in US sizing.
How is the sizing related to EU sizes? I really need this spot on as I can not afford to send it back across the Atlantic for an exchange.
I normally wear 42.5 (most 42 are too small, and most 43 are too large).
According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoe_size#Adults), a EUR42.5 would be a US9.5.
However, I have a pair of Allen Edmonds chuckas, they are size 8.5 (perfect fit). That's a full size difference from Wikipedia.
I also have a pair of RM Williams Turnouts in 9G, they are a little too big (that would correspond to a US10). This would also indicate that I'm probably US9.5 in RMW, but the AE are a full size less, is that normal?
Is there any good way to pick the correct size?

 

I normally wear size 11US.  For the Katahdin's however, it is typically recommended to size down a half to a full size depending on your feet.

The size 10 boots are a tad too narrow for me (and a bit boxy in the toes), so I chose the 10.5.

After the usual break in, they are far and away my best fitting and most comfortable shoes ever.

If you fit into a size 8.5, and your fit are a tad narrow I'd suggest the same size for the Katahdins.

Keep in mind they have an excellent return policy if you want to swap out for the next size up anyway.

post #960 of 1289
anyone interested in a pair in sz 8 worn for 8 months. pm if you're interested.
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