MEGA PEACOAT THREAD - 61 threads merged - all Peacoat questions HERE - Page 332
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If your source is correct? Of course your source is correct. I am the source, but with a different avatar. The avatar on the other site is me back when I was a military pilot. The avatar on this site is of the greatest racehorse ever to step on a track (IMO). My wife and I have his grandson, among others.
The 1967 coat is easy to date. "DSA 100-67-C-1278" or something very similar marks it as 1967.
Yes, the shoulders do stick up a bit. That's because there is a lot of material in that area, and the coat probably wasn't stored properly. You might try spraying some water on the area and training it to lie down. Water usually helps when training unruly material. Don't soak it, but get it a bit damp. Try pushing down from the outside and then pulling down from the inside. Get it the way you want it, find a way to keep it that way (clamp it or put a heavy book on it) and let it dry. I have one I need to use that treatment on, but it just doesn't bother me too much. Of course I have another 10 or 15 I can wear, so the problem isn't immediate for me.
It will be difficult to find a size 32. With a p2p of 19.5, you have a large size 34--may have stretched some. Most size 34s will be right at 19" p2p.
Haha. Yes, I was joking about "my source." The tag reads DSA100-67-C-1273, so maybe the source was confused. Maybe the previous owner got OUT of the service in '72?
Thanks also, goonz. You're right; I was only wearing an undershirt in the pics so another layer or two surely helps fill it out some.
Looking at it in the mirror again, the sleeves definitely can be shortened at least an inch or two and I think the bunching up at the shoulder is aggravated by the shortness of my arms. Too much fabric bunching up when the hands go into the pockets.
I'll take the advice of dampening the fabric and reshaping it to dry. That along with getting the sleeves to a proper length should help. Otherwise I'm happy with the fit.
I was just a bit fearful of the shoulders making me look too a bit too David Byrne-ish.
Ha, ha! Thanks! With a vintage coat, I expect to find flaws. But, in this case, there are none--save the inside loop to hang the coat needs to be re-sewn.
The really big difference, I think, between the current Mil-Spec and these wonderful vintage coats--in terms of size-- are the sleeves and the waist. The cut on the vintage sleeves is much smaller. And, the vintage waist is much, much more snug--which I like. If someone had too big a waist, they could not wear this coat.
Edited by clarinetplayer - 1/13/13 at 3:03am
Looking for a Peacoat in UK but as i have fairly long arms, 42"chest, 6.0ft tall and slim i'm not having much luck. Have most of the U.K guys here who are lucky enough to have a nice vintage Pea coat buying mainly from the U.S and swalllowing expensive postage costs and possible import duty charges or have you found them on Ebay UK etc. Pickings seem rather slim here .
It isn't inconsistent for a 1967 peacoat (and this is a 1967 coat) to have been issued in 1972. It is somewhat unusual, but I have seen much longer delays. If the seller says it was issued in 1972, then I would believe that to be accurate. The issue date is one of the few things sellers actually know about the peacoats they are selling, if it is a family coat.
So, VT received my return. I asked them for the measurements of another 38 that they had and, after the standard 2 day wait (during which they seemed to have replenished their inventory) they told me that the p2p was always a little bigger and that they measured seam to seam, which doesn't really address the issue that was the subject of the inquiry in the first place: that of the 38 that I returned having the same measurement as the 40 I already own. Their suggestion was to size down to a 36. This sounds like madness to me. My chest is pretty much forty on the nose (+/- 1/16"). I would think a 36 is going to be way too tight.
The more I hear about VT, the more I am convinced they are complete idiots. As I have said before, on numerous occasions, they think they know everything, but as it turns out, they don't know shit (as we say here in the South). You absolutely have to get an accurate p2p from them--as you well know. Don't listen to their pap about sizing down to a 36. You know more about sizing and fitting than they know.
What I suggest is to copy and paste my instructions on obtaining an accurate p2p measurement and send that to them. Tell them the guy who wrote those instructions is the foremost bespoke tailor in England. Maybe that will get their attention. Well, I have been to England.
Hello all. I've been reading back through the last 30 or so pages of this thread and it's a great resource, thanks!
I'm looking at a vintage pea coat listed on e-bay, here: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vtg-Black-US-NAVY-Military-Wool-Winter-PEA-COAT-38-Medium-/281047583466?pt=UK_Men_s_Coats_Jackets&hash=item416fbdcaea
The measurements (as far as they can be relied on) look pretty good for me, I'm right between a 39/40" chest so a 22" p2p should be good, and I'm 6ft 3 so I need a reasonably long arm.
Would be interested in any feedback on the coat itself. There's no date there, but having read through Peacoat's guide to dating, I guess it's a fairly recent one based on the colour (black) and type of wool. I don't recognise the label from that guide though, so I thought I'd check just in case. The other pea coats listed seem genuine enough, though the dates are usually a decade or two out judging by their labels! The user has excellent feedback, at least.
Edited by RobTee - 1/14/13 at 11:51am
^I have a coat like that in addition to my 1960 coat, issued in '87 I believe. It should have another label inside the right inside pocket where it will indicate the issue date and contractor (mine is Whaling Inc.) so you can contact the seller and ask for a photo of the inside label. Even though I prefer the older Kersey wool, my '87 is in mint condition and is warm and heavy, best part is I only paid $36 incl. shipping.