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post #4891 of 5751
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Originally Posted by Peacoat View Post

As to the sleeves, when you put on a sweater, it will take up some of the length. Navy Regs state cuffs should be 3/4 of the way from the wrist to the knuckles; that's about where your sleeves fall. The body is a bit large and could use a bit of a nipping in. It appears to be a bit large overall.
You can stretch the back by hugging yourself, and it will stretch naturally as it breaks in.
A size 38 ought to measure about 20.25" p2p. Looks like this one will measure well over that--maybe 21.25"? Please let us know the p2p and the model name for future reference. PC

There is Navy regs style and then there is contemporary style. I find Navy regs a bit too "relaxed" in look and feel. Nothing against those who want a more traditional fit, but I personally think a more modern James Bond-like fit is very good looking.
post #4892 of 5751

^ this is sort of what I'm noticing too comparead to my other peacoat from Jcrew. The Jcrew peacoat tapers at the waist to show off a V sort of figure where as the navy peacoat sort of just goes straight down. The arms on the navy also seem to be built wider than the Jcrew and the shoulders on the navy coat is much more structured/square compared to the jcrew. 

 

I'm 140lbs and I think around 5' 7" Been sick for almost 1.5months and down to 130lbs and dropping. 

post #4893 of 5751
I don't mean to imply that one is better than the other. BUT, to me, the slimmer silouette of the contemporary pea coat is more flattering. And actually I remember in high school, many years ago, that my pea coat then fit more like the J. Crew version than the "real" version. Maybe I was instinctively style conscious and sizing down?
post #4894 of 5751
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Originally Posted by Robert View Post

I don't mean to imply that one is better than the other. BUT, to me, the slimmer silouette of the contemporary pea coat is more flattering. And actually I remember in high school, many years ago, that my pea coat then fit more like the J. Crew version than the "real" version. Maybe I was instinctively style conscious and sizing down?

I am thinking about trying a smaller size in sterlingwear (since 34 is the smallest I found in vintage). I have a feeling it still won't give a slim silouette though. It seems like the navy jacket is more square cut.

post #4895 of 5751
Thanks for the help. It's a Sterlingwear Authentic size 38R. The P2P measured 21".
post #4896 of 5751
If you are 18 y/o, or still have the body of a normal 18 y/o, then most pea coats aren't going to work for you. You just won't fill them out where they need to be filled out. I am 6' 190 lbs. with a 42" chest and an athletic build. I fill out a size 42 peacoat with a sweater, and a size 40 with no sweater. This was the type of body the Navy used as its model. Obviously everyone won't be the same height and weight as I am, but the sizes are based on a filled out adult male with an athletic build for all of the tag sizes. The closer to the standard one is, the better the fit. I agree that the coats could be nipped in a bit at the waist, for a trimmer appearance.
post #4897 of 5751
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Originally Posted by Peacoat View Post

If you are 18 y/o, or still have the body of a normal 18 y/o, then most pea coats aren't going to work for you. You just won't fill them out where they need to be filled out. I am 6' 190 lbs. with a 42" chest and an athletic build. I fill out a size 42 peacoat with a sweater, and a size 40 with no sweater. This was the type of body the Navy used as its model. Obviously everyone won't be the same height and weight as I am, but the sizes are based on a filled out adult male with an athletic build for all of the tag sizes. The closer to the standard one is, the better the fit. I agree that the coats could be nipped in a bit at the waist, for a trimmer appearance.

I agree. I'm in my mid 20s and a pretty slim guy (asian). You can really tell the vintage jackets were designed for larger guys. Most peacoats I find at malls fit me fine though. They are changing designs because people are getting smaller. I think if you are under 150lbs no vintage peacoat will fit slim. I wonder how the sterling 32 and 30s fit though. What are the p2p on those.. Worried that if I order a 32 sterling the sleeves and inseam will be too short. I tried on a fidelity 34 in the store and the sleeves were too short :(

post #4898 of 5751
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Originally Posted by Peacoat View Post

Wow, that is a tight p2p for a size 40. I earlier had a report of a size 38 measuring 20 5/8, which is about what I would expect for that size.

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Originally Posted by Mr Sola View Post

Thanks for the help. It's a Sterlingwear Authentic size 38R. The P2P measured 21".

Man, I must not have had my morning coffee, yesterday, when I measured my 40R Mil-Spec. The correct p2p is just barely 21 inches - not what I posted, yesterday. Since Mr. Sola's 38R Authentic p2p is also 21 inches, that would imply that the Mil-Spec is a shade tighter than the civilian issue.
post #4899 of 5751
Thanks for the clarification. I wondered about that when you posted, but knowing your background, I didn't question it. The Authentic is more than a shade larger, it is a full size larger. Another reason why getting an accurate p2p for these coats before one places an order is so important.

My prior information was that the Authentic and the Mil Sped were sized about the same. Sola's p2p on his Authentic indicates they are fitted larger.
post #4900 of 5751
It seems to me too that military sizes, especially vintage military, are bigger than their modern-day equivalents in commercial brands, i.e., a 40 in an old U.S. Navy coat fits much larger on me than a new coat from somebody like J. Crew. Not long ago, when I bought a lot of outerwear from military surplus stores, I could easily make a 38 or 40 work on my 42-44 body.

As well, back in the day when I was in the Air Force, I'd have to be careful about my uniform sizing because it was vastly different from the sizing for my civilian clothing.
post #4901 of 5751

Yep. The wool coat I'm wearing right now is a size 36 and its pretty snug and tight. The vintage 34 I got was pretty loose on me. Still debating if I should let a tailor hack at the jacket to slim it down.

post #4902 of 5751
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Originally Posted by cfrp View Post

Yep. The wool coat I'm wearing right now is a size 36 and its pretty snug and tight. The vintage 34 I got was pretty loose on me. Still debating if I should let a tailor hack at the jacket to slim it down.

I wouldn't. I tend to let my vintage stuff "just be," unless the fit is just way off. I think it rhrows the item off to mess with the vintage cut too much. In other words, vintage should look vintage, and that includes a certain look about the fit.
post #4903 of 5751
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Originally Posted by cfrp View Post

Yep. The wool coat I'm wearing right now is a size 36 and its pretty snug and tight. The vintage 34 I got was pretty loose on me. Still debating if I should let a tailor hack at the jacket to slim it down.

 

Skip Kaufman's. They only have the Sterlingwear Authentic, and wanted $450 for the Mil-Spec (special order) which is $100 more than Sterlingwear direct. I tried on the Authentic, felt flimsy compared to my Fidelity. Also tried on the Schott, but I don't really get the huge price variation between the 32oz Schott and the Fidelity when the latter's list price is a third of the former.

 

EDIT: The arm holes were also cut pretty loose, and didn't curve down enough, which made raising my arms difficult. The cut isn't very trim.

post #4904 of 5751
My first peacoat. Have been wanting one for years.

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Sleeves have been let out after the pic was taken. I think I'll replace the buttons with horn ones... peepwall[1].gif.
post #4905 of 5751

Not your traditional peacoat...

 

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