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post #4621 of 5748
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Originally Posted by Kazragore View Post

Use Peacoat's guide to identify the year the coat was manufactured. Any coat made prior to 1980 will be Kersey; after, Melton.
(Correct me if I'm wrong!)

yep that is correct
post #4622 of 5748
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Originally Posted by IronRinn View Post

I had asked this earlier in the thread but it (or the answer) got lost, so I figured I would ask again. Would anyone know what kind of button would be found on the inside of a early-mid 60s peacoat? The one I purchased is missing this button (the one used to secure the interior side of the coat). On my old Sterlingwear it's just a plain black button, a few millimeters smaller than the fouled anchor buttons. Just wondering if this was always the case or if I'm going to have to hunt down an extra anchor button to sew in there. Thanks guys.

When I was a kid, I had a peacoat from the mid-60s and it was just a plain black button there. I assume that's because it's hidden and its purpose is strictly functional, so no need for any kind of embellishment, etc. In fact, I think every peacoat I've had since then, that button has just been a plain one. I don't think it's any big deal really. Just get a plain black button.
post #4623 of 5748
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Originally Posted by bik2101 View Post

it's not. don't use this chart as a guide for measurements of the coats.

so anecdotal evidence suggests we're not to trust the measurements Sterlingwear service reps give over phone/email, and we're not to trust the measurements posted on their site...
how do you suggest people get accurate measurements for their coats?
post #4624 of 5748
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Originally Posted by zazaza View Post


so anecdotal evidence suggests we're not to trust the measurements Sterlingwear service reps give over phone/email, and we're not to trust the measurements posted on their site...
how do you suggest people get accurate measurements for their coats?

hope that people who have them post measurements here. or buy different sizes and figure out which one is best and return the rest. unfortunately that's just how it is. 

post #4625 of 5748
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Originally Posted by Robert View Post


When I was a kid, I had a peacoat from the mid-60s and it was just a plain black button there. I assume that's because it's hidden and its purpose is strictly functional, so no need for any kind of embellishment, etc. In fact, I think every peacoat I've had since then, that button has just been a plain one. I don't think it's any big deal really. Just get a plain black button.


Excellent. Thanks!

post #4626 of 5748
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Originally Posted by zazaza View Post

so anecdotal evidence suggests we're not to trust the measurements Sterlingwear service reps give over phone/email, and we're not to trust the measurements posted on their site...
how do you suggest people get accurate measurements for their coats?

Golly! I think that the Sterlingwear chart size is fairly accurate. A size 40 coat should fit comfortably a person with a 38-39 inch chest. Besides the chest measurement, one should not ignore the other measurements: sleeve length, coat length, waist, hip. As state by le.gentlemen in his post, a few minutes ago, one does not want to see the fabric bunch up in the back when buttoned up. Or, to see the vents sticking out.

I wear a 39 suit. The Sterlingwear 38 fits me, but it is really snug. I could not wear a sweater underneath. The 40 has enough room for a Shetland sweater, and it has much more freedom in the arm. I have the Mil Spec, and it is a very thick coat. The p2p on the 40R Mil Spec is about 21 1/4 inches. Keep in mind that Mil Spec is much thicker and heavier than the Navigator or Authentic. The p2p on the Nav. or Auth. is a bit less. So, I'd say what the chart size says about the Nav. or Auth. is about right.

Just this morning, at Starbucks, I saw someone wearing a J Crew peacoat that was much, much too tight. Yeah, the front silhouette was sharp, but the backside was a horror story. The poor guy looked as if he could barely move his arms.

I also own a 1949 Vintage coat, size 38. I wear it only with a shirt underneath. It is very trim and the wool is much thinner than the current issue. But, the kersey wool is very warm and functions well in winter weather.
post #4627 of 5748
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Originally Posted by clarinetplayer View Post


Golly! I think that the Sterlingwear chart size is fairly accurate. A size 40 coat should fit comfortably a person with a 38-39 inch chest. Besides the chest measurement, one should not ignore the other measurements: sleeve length, coat length, waist, hip. As state by le.gentlemen in his post, a few minutes ago, one does not want to see the fabric bunch up in the back when buttoned up. Or, to see the vents sticking out.
I wear a 39 suit. The Sterlingwear 38 fits me, but it is really snug. I could not wear a sweater underneath. The 40 has enough room for a Shetland sweater, and it has much more freedom in the arm. I have the Mil Spec, and it is a very thick coat. The p2p on the 40R Mil Spec is about 21 1/4 inches. Keep in mind that Mil Spec is much thicker and heavier than the Navigator or Authentic. The p2p on the Nav. or Auth. is a bit less. So, I'd say what the chart size says about the Nav. or Auth. is about right.
Just this morning, at Starbucks, I saw someone wearing a J Crew peacoat that was much, much too tight. Yeah, the front silhouette was sharp, but the backside was a horror story. The poor guy looked as if he could barely move his arms.
I also own a 1949 Vintage coat, size 38. I wear it only with a shirt underneath. It is very trim and the wool is much thinner than the current issue. But, the kersey wool is very warm and functions well in winter weather.

 

okay, possibly for the mil spec, but for sure its not accurate for the authentic/navigator - these i can say for sure run big. i measure a 37" chest and I had to size down to a 34 in the authentic to finally have it fit right

 

my first try was a size 36S - based on the measurements from the chart, and it was too big in the chest and too short in the sleeves. measured at 20.5 for the p2p on a size 36. now with my 34R fit is great and that measures a 19.5 on the p2p. 

post #4628 of 5748
Hello all long time lurker here with a fit question. I just received the mil spec pea coat from sterlingwear and I believe it's at least one, maybe two sizes larger than what I need. I wear a 36 jacket (I'm 5'9" 135lbs) and the rep on the phone said I should get a 38, guess I should have checked here first. Anyway here's the evidence any opinions are appreciated.
post #4629 of 5748
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Originally Posted by Surgeon View Post

Hello all long time lurker here with a fit question. I just received the mil spec pea coat from sterlingwear and I believe it's at least one, maybe two sizes larger than what I need. I wear a 36 jacket (I'm 5'9" 135lbs) and the rep on the phone said I should get a 38, guess I should have checked here first. Anyway here's the evidence any opinions are appreciated.
. If you wear a 36 coat I would have ordered a 36 sterlingwear
post #4630 of 5748
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Originally Posted by clarinetplayer View Post

. If you wear a 36 coat I would have ordered a 36 sterlingwear

I thought that at the time but i deferred to the opinion on the phone.  I don't mind spending a few extra dollars to get the correct fit though, thanks! 

post #4631 of 5748
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Originally Posted by Surgeon View Post

I thought that at the time but i deferred to the opinion on the phone.  I don't mind spending a few extra dollars to get the correct fit though, thanks! 

As Peacoat has said many times, these coats are fitted to athletically built men in their 20s. They are working coats. So, having room to function is of primary importance. As I wrote a post ago, I wear a 39 suit and the 38 Mil Spec fit spot on. I sent it back to get a 40 only because I want to be able to wear a substantial sweater underneath. I have a great old vintage 38 which I don only if I am wearing a shirt underneath. I bet that the 36 will be very comfortable and roomy enough for you. I'm sure that, even in West Virginia, winter time can be cruel. This coat will protect you from the elements. Good luck!
post #4632 of 5748
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Originally Posted by svart aske View Post

I have a question for Peacoat or anyone who can help out; I'm looking at peacoats on eBay and came across some Vi-Mil navy issue coats. I'm wondering if it's possible to know whether the coat is made from Kersey or Melton wool. Does anything in the label, cut or shape of the coat give that away? 

Actually some of the 1970s contracts provided for the Melton wool. The ones I have seen have been in 1973, but there could be other years as well. I think I have a 1973 Vi--Mill (precursor to Sterlingwear) that has the Kersey wool, so there is no real pattern. What makes it easy is that all of the Melton coats I have seen are so stated on the tag. All you have to do is get a picture of the tag. It is my experience if the tag is silent as to the type, it is the Kersey (in the 1970s).
post #4633 of 5748
Surgeon: Too bad we can't rely on the opinion of the customer service rep. Looks like we can only rely on ourselves.

If your chest is 36" then a size 36 ought to give enough room for a sweater. If you want a closer fit, then go one size down. As Clarinet Player said in a post a few pages back, it might not fit in other areas. If you have large shoulders or long arms, you might have some problem with fit when going down a size.

It gets cold there in W. Virginia, especially in the mountains, so I would think you would want it large enough for a sweater. But then, that is up to you.

Please post the p2p on the size 38 you got so we will have a frame of reference for the Mil. Spec. in that size. To find the proper way to measure the p2p, see the sizing section in my article which is linked in my signature line.


Bik2101: Thanks for the p2p on the Authentic, your chest size and the comments about the fit. I take it that with the size 34, there is not much room for a sweater?
post #4634 of 5748
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Originally Posted by improvise View Post

I just won a peacoat on eBay; as far as I can tell with information from the Fedora Lounge guide, it looks to be a 70's peacoat, with the tag hinting that it might have been made in 1978.

Selected photos: (full images here)
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)



More higher-resolution photos to come- I'm excited- but one question: would this jacket look weird with gold buttons? Something like this or a little more flashy like this?

Are there any examples of peacoats with custom buttons? The only example I could find was on /r/malefashionadvice (this post).

What you linked to (the gold buttons) are actually worn on officers' pea coats (reefers). So no, I don't think they would look weird at all. Yes, that is a 1978 coat with the Kersey wool.

Who is that good looking pilot standing next to his war machine? Not nearly as interesting as Secretariat, though.
post #4635 of 5748
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Originally Posted by IronRinn View Post

I had asked this earlier in the thread but it (or the answer) got lost, so I figured I would ask again. Would anyone know what kind of button would be found on the inside of a early-mid 60s peacoat? The one I purchased is missing this button (the one used to secure the interior side of the coat). On my old Sterlingwear it's just a plain black button, a few millimeters smaller than the fouled anchor buttons. Just wondering if this was always the case or if I'm going to have to hunt down an extra anchor button to sew in there. Thanks guys.

I checked 4 or 5 of my pea coats and only found one that had the button. It is the standard 1 1/4" fouled anchor button.
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