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post #4501 of 5862
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Originally Posted by Peacoat View Post


I doubt she actually measured the coat. If she had, the p2p would have been about 22.5", give or take .25". Yes, a p2p of 21" would be consistent with a WWII size 40. After the war, the sizes became larger. A p2p on a post war model would be about 21.25", growing to 21.50" or so for size 40 current issue coats.
Many people who don't know much about the p2p measurements, and who don't want to measure, or don't know how, will often just look at the stated chest size, divide by 2, and give that as the p2p measurement. It sounds as if that is what she did. Not helpful at all. In fact it is more harmful than not doing anything.

 

I'm with you, Peacoat. From what you say, it seems like a Mil-Spec 42R would correspond to a chest size of 43, which is probably perfect for me.

 

I measured the J Crew Bayswater sizes medium and large and found the p2p measurements to be 23" and 24.5", respectively (hopefully I measured correctly). I like the chest size on the medium - I think what's throwing me off is the sleeve length in relation to the armhole position and the overall length of the coat (it is quite short for me). I think a 42R in the Mil-Spec would be a safe bet, at least for an initial trial.

post #4502 of 5862
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Originally Posted by badgerbrush View Post

I'm with you, Peacoat. From what you say, it seems like a Mil-Spec 42R would correspond to a chest size of 43, which is probably perfect for me.

I measured the J Crew Bayswater sizes medium and large and found the p2p measurements to be 23" and 24.5", respectively (hopefully I measured correctly). I like the chest size on the medium - I think what's throwing me off is the sleeve length in relation to the armhole position and the overall length of the coat (it is quite short for me). I think a 42R in the Mil-Spec would be a safe bet, at least for an initial trial.

When you get a sleeve measurement, it should be given from where the sleeve seam joins the shoulder down to the cuff. As you noted, when it is given from the armhole, it only confuses things as that measurement varies so widely. The objective measurement is from the sleeve seam or from the middle of the shoulder around and down to the cuff. The latter measurement isn't much used as there is more room for error.

If you have a 43" chest, a 42 in a Mil Spec ought to be a fairly good fit. It would probably be fitted more closely if your chest were 44".
post #4503 of 5862

So I got a 36R and a 38S sterlingwear peacoat to see which one fit better. The 36R gives a better fit, but it's a tad tighter. The 38S is a good length, but if looks kind of boxy. I'm fine with the 36R because it gives a more tapered look when wearing it, but is it better to have a little slack in coat? I put on a pretty heavy sweatshirt to see how tight both of the coats fit and the 36 was pretty tight, but wearable. Also, how high should my arms be able to raise with the peacoat on? 

 

Thanks

post #4504 of 5862
Well the simple answer is to not wear a heavy sweatshirt under it. Sweatshirts are notorious for lack of warmth--cotton--and bulky. See how it fits with a standard wool sweater--not a cable sweater. The ideal is to have one peacoat that is a trim fit without a sweater, but that has enough room for wool sweater when the temperature drops. A difficult task to accomplish. My size 40 is a trim fit without a sweater and really has no room for one. I go to a size 42 when I want a sweater.

Any coat or jacket with high and tight armholes will give more range of motion than the typical mall jacket with the low and large armholes. I would think you should be able to raise your arms to about 90 degrees without ride up in most coats/jackets with proper armholes..

You need to tell us three things: what is your chest measurement, what is the p2p of the peacoat you got and the model. This will give others a good idea of how a Sterlingwear 36 in your model will fit them if they get the same model.
post #4505 of 5862
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Originally Posted by Peacoat View Post

If you have a 43" chest, a 42 in a Mil Spec ought to be a fairly good fit. It would probably be fitted more closely if your chest were 44".

 

I have a 42" chest - hazard a guess as to what size Mil-Spec I should order?

post #4506 of 5862
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Originally Posted by badgerbrush View Post

I have a 42" chest - hazard a guess as to what size Mil-Spec I should order?

If you want a trim fit, I would go with the 40. I too have a 42" chest. In the vintage size 42 there is room for a sweater. It is a bit loose without one, but still a good fit as I am not too concerned about a trim fit. In a vintage size 40, it is a trim fit without room for a sweater. The current issue coats fit a little larger than the vintage, so there may be enough room for a light sweater in the 40.

If you get a Mil Spec, please let us know how it fits and the p2p as others are also interested in this model.
post #4507 of 5862
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Originally Posted by Peacoat View Post


If you want a trim fit, I would go with the 40. I too have a 42" chest. In the vintage size 42 there is room for a sweater. It is a bit loose without one, but still a good fit as I am not too concerned about a trim fit. In a vintage size 40, it is a trim fit without room for a sweater. The current issue coats fit a little larger than the vintage, so there may be enough room for a light sweater in the 40.
If you get a Mil Spec, please let us know how it fits and the p2p as others are also interested in this model.

 

Excellent, thanks very much Peacoat. I'm going for a 40R Mil-Spec (I'll call when they open on Friday), will post pics and measurements when it is delivered.

post #4508 of 5862

Is it just me or does it seem like the Jcrew bayswater has some pretty low armholes?
 

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Edited by pdxkyle - 11/22/12 at 5:08pm
post #4510 of 5862
I have the bayswater in an XS and the arm holes definitely are not low,there is a lot of variation so each item could be different.
post #4511 of 5862
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Excellent, thanks very much Peacoat. I'm going for a 40R Mil-Spec (I'll call when they open on Friday), will post pics and measurements when it is delivered.

If you have a 42" chest, I'd go with the 42R. You won't want to feel constricted in your upper arms.


If this is helpful, the p2p on a 40R is 21.25". The wool on this coat is very thick--noticeably more than on the Vintage.
The p2p on my 1949 Vintage 38R is 19.25".

Keep in mind that the Mil-Spec is a working man's coat. It is the Carhartt of peacoats.
Edited by clarinetplayer - 11/22/12 at 8:00am
post #4512 of 5862

I just received the J. Crew Bayswater in XS, and I am not sure about the fit.

Is it the jacket too big and are the sleeves too long?

The lower lapels don't lay down, but stick up all the time. How do I make them lay down like all the pea coats? 

 

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post #4513 of 5862
The sleeves are too long, the torso length is too long and the coat is too big for you. Back to the drawing board.

Peacoats with short lapels, such as the WWII model, need to have the lapels trained to stay down. Even then they sometimes don't stay trained. I think that is one reason the Navy went to the post war type of coat with the longer lapels. They stay down and give a neater appearance.
post #4514 of 5862

So... Do I have to return it? :( Isn't it anything I can do too fix the problems? 

Does it look too ugly to use the jacket?

post #4515 of 5862
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Originally Posted by Dingusberry View Post

So... Do I have to return it? :( Isn't it anything I can do too fix the problems? 

Does it look too ugly to use the jacket?

you need to return it. its overall jsut too big for you. 

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