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post #3871 of 5715
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Originally Posted by SLAB View Post

i received my vintage WWII peacoat today and have the same problem. The coat fits slim, its not a problem buttoning the coat but the shoulders seem too boxy for my posture and the sleeves are way too short for my arms so I will unfortunately have to let it go. Looking to get what I paid for it.

If the coat fits you in the torso, you might look into having the sleeves lengthened. There usually is an inch or more of extra material inside the cuff that can be let out. In addition to the material you see at the cuff, there is more under the lining, but not much more. The boxy shoulders you mentioned is just the way pea coats are made. For a small framed guy, they may well appear to be boxy. I have never seen it as a problem.

I have a size 40 peacoat that fits well in the torso, with no sweater, but the sleeves have always been too short. They are right at my wrists, and my watch shows. I checked a few weeks ago and found enough material at the cuff to make the sleeves plenty long. This is the original peacoat my sister's husband gave me years ago, so I would like to get it back into service (for those of you who have read the article). This peacoat is a snug fit, so a sweater isn't always needed when the temps get around freezing. The snug fit decreases the amount of air transfer around the body, allows the body to heat the air better and keeps me warmer than a larger size without a sweater. I used to frequently wear it in NYC in the winter with no sweater, and stayed plenty warm.
post #3872 of 5715
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Originally Posted by laxative_mess View Post

Hi, I am looking into the Jcrew peacoats and was wondering if there were any stylistic differences between the THINSULATE and REGULAR versions? I have not seen them in real life yet. Looking at the web site pictures, it seems like the thinsulate and regular versions have different pictures attached to them...
Regular: 350
Thinsulate: 350
Is the Regular version a slimmer fit since it is a thinner material? Or are they pretty much indistinguishable in style to the naked eye?

I would call J.Crew and talk to one of their associates. They're friendly and are very helpful in answering questions. You can find the number on their site
post #3873 of 5715
Do you guys have any opinions on what color to get for a Jcrew peacoat?

I can't choose between Navy and Charcoal. I don't want black b/c I have too many black coats... Need some help.

NAVY:
350

CHARCOAL:
350
post #3874 of 5715
I'd go navy before charcoal. But there's this certain feeling about charcoal that I like. Navy before charcoal, but both are good colors. Charcoal sort of switches things up, but you won't find a charcoal vintage.

Vintage look = navy
Style/different = charcoal
post #3875 of 5715
Navy
post #3876 of 5715
Here are some models posing in the Navy and Charcoal Jcrew peacoats:

NAVY:
401
CHARCOAL:
383
post #3877 of 5715
Yet another Sterlingwear fact.... tounge.gif

Today, I had a chance to try on a 36 R Sterlingwear Mil-Spec P-coat. It was a perfect fit. The sleeve length is perfect. The p2p measurement is 20 inches. Previously, I had ordered, and returned, a 38 R and a 40 R. Both were too roomy. (I wear a 38-39 suit.)

This 36 R is very similar to the 1949 vintage US Navy Peacoat that I received from Vintage Trends. The p2p on the 1949 coat (which is labeled as a 38 R) is 19 and a fraction inches.. Both the vintage and the 36 R Mil-Spec have a slender mid torso. section. I'd say that the vintage has more of a natural shoulder than the current issue.

The current issue Mil-Spec is a very nice, uber sturdy coat. Of course, it does not have the nice Kearsey wool that the vintage coat has.
post #3878 of 5715
Thanks for the update.

From your post it appears the size of the issue pea coats continues to increase, compared to the WWII and post war vintage models. From then until now, the size 36 models have increased a full two inches in the chest (keep in mind the pit to pit is only 1/2 of the measurement). So, a size 38 vintage is sized the same as a size 36 current issue, assuming the Spec pea coats are indeed sized the same as the military issue. Makes it more difficult to get a trim fit in the current issue pea coats.
post #3879 of 5715
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Originally Posted by laxative_mess View Post

Here are some models posing in the Navy and Charcoal Jcrew peacoats:
NAVY:
401
CHARCOAL:
383
charcoal looks much better ock
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Originally Posted by clarinetplayer View Post

Yet another Sterlingwear fact.... tounge.gif
Today, I had a chance to try on a 36 R Sterlingwear Mil-Spec P-coat. It was a perfect fit. The sleeve length is perfect. The p2p measurement is 20 inches. Previously, I had ordered, and returned, a 38 R and a 40 R. Both were too roomy. (I wear a 38-39 suit.)
This 36 R is very similar to the 1949 vintage US Navy Peacoat that I received from Vintage Trends. The p2p on the 1949 coat (which is labeled as a 38 R) is 19 and a fraction inches.. Both the vintage and the 36 R Mil-Spec have a slender mid torso. section. I'd say that the vintage has more of a natural shoulder than the current issue.
The current issue Mil-Spec is a very nice, uber sturdy coat. Of course, it does not have the nice Kearsey wool that the vintage coat has.

how many inches does your chest measure again? eh.gif
post #3880 of 5715
Peacoat, (or anyone else who'd like to chime in)

I read your guide and would like to heed your advice to find a vintage coat as opposed to a new one...
Looking on Vintage Trends I came across this and immediately had two questions:
http://www.vintagetrends.com/military/itemdetails.asp?YZ=A2A0A29C888B92&RN=37&TR=86&SS=&MC=Military+Vintage&CA=Men&SC=Jackets%2FCoats&ST=Navy+Pea+Coat

Aren't all coats of that era made from Kersey wool?
does that price ($375) seem a bit exorbitant?

any insight you could share would be greatly appreciated
thank you
post #3881 of 5715
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Originally Posted by TyCooN View Post

charcoal looks much better ock
how many inches does your chest measure again? eh.gif

38 and a fraction inches
post #3882 of 5715
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Originally Posted by zazaza View Post

Peacoat, (or anyone else who'd like to chime in)

I read your guide and would like to heed your advice to find a vintage coat as opposed to a new one...
Looking on Vintage Trends I came across this and immediately had two questions:
http://www.vintagetrends.com/military/itemdetails.asp?YZ=A2A0A29C888B92&RN=37&TR=86&SS=&MC=Military+Vintage&CA=Men&SC=Jackets%2FCoats&ST=Navy+Pea+Coat

Aren't all coats of that era made from Kersey wool?
does that price ($375) seem a bit exorbitant?

any insight you could share would be greatly appreciated
thank you
 


Yes, it's Kersey - Vintage Trends is inconsistent on the labeling that way.

 

I think the price is a bit high, but the market might bear it for two reasons:

1.  It's a 46 - not a common size

2.  I'm going to assume it's essentially brand new and unworn ("super mint").  I have a essentially brand new WW2 one that I was willing to pay almost that much for - seriously, it's 70 years old and looks like it was just made - you can't get a new coat that nice for less than $500 (or at all, really, if you like the wool as I do).

 

I can't really stress how hard it seems to be to find a pristine coat.  I'm a perfectionist and can't stand any moth damage, which is a losing battle when we're talking that many years.  But when they do pop up, it's worth it for someone who's picky.

 

All that said, he'll lower the price if it doesn't sell.

post #3883 of 5715
Thank you very much for the info, Nathani

Unfortunately, I just read their return policy and am totally put off with purchasing from them

Am i correct in understanding they won't issue a refund, only credit, and that the credit is void if not used within 6 months?

If larger size coats are rare I feel that doesn't bode well.
I'm worried I'd be out of luck if this one doesn't work out and I need to use it on a comparable coat in 6 months.

too bad
post #3884 of 5715
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Originally Posted by zazaza View Post

Thank you very much for the info, Nathani
Unfortunately, I just read their return policy and am totally put off with purchasing from them
Am i correct in understanding they won't issue a refund, only credit, and that the credit is void if not used within 6 months?
If larger size coats are rare I feel that doesn't bode well.
I'm worried I'd be out of luck if this one doesn't work out and I need to use it on a comparable coat in 6 months.
too bad


I've bought from them, have done a return, and would do so again.  That said, I get your concern.

 

I'd suggest that it's worth sending them an email saying just what you said above - that its a lot of money and a rare size - and ask for an exception (refund) if it doesn't work out.  Worst they can say is no and I suspect given the price they might work with you.

 

And if not, well, that's why there's competition!

 

post #3885 of 5715
zax3: I think Nathanl has answered your questions, and he is spot on. The only time I have seen Melton wool on a vintage peacoat is in the early 70s, and they were clearly labeled as such. VT doesn't have a real good grasp of the differences in the wool used in the coats back then. I'm pretty sure they have read my article, but it is almost as if whoever is making the comments has lapses of concentration when it comes to stating the type of wool used in the garment. They usually get the year right, but sometimes they lose concentration there as well.

A size 46 is rare in the vintage models, especially one in good condition. I would ask Gary to hold the coat at an angle to a strong light, such as a daytime window and inspect the various panels of the coat. Only then can he be sure there is no damage. Not only do you not want moth holes, but you don't want moth tracking either. Holding it at an angle is the only way to find that type of damage. This coat appears to have little to no wear. Peacoats can take a lot of wear without showing it, but moth holes can show up on a coat with little to no wear. That type of damage is unrelated to wear.

Is that peacoat worth the price? If it has no, or minimal damage, my answer is a simple, yes. I think they may be willing to work with you on a return due to the rarity of the size of the coat. Nathanl has given some good advice there as well.

Please let us know what you decide.
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