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post #1 of 6
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I hate dual postings on AskAndy and SF but in this case I will break my own rule as this seller is one that may take in any of us. An intermittent Ebay seller (bayoucandle) that many of us have viewed because they were ostensibly selling Brioni, Canali, Zegna, Belvest goods from a single entrepeneur in Lousisiana that had so many clothes he couldn't ever wear them is apparently a scam artist. Today I received what was purported to be an odd lot of 8 suits/sport coats from this single entrepeneur. They were listed all as 44L and privately confirmed to me as an e54L, which is a common Ebay misconception of sizing conversions. When the box was opened only 5 of the 8 items were present, and were as follows from listing 7761905536: Item 1: Zegna DB grey, not included Item 2: Belvest DB Charcoal e54L; actually a vintage e56L of poor quality Item 3: Belvest SB Taupe, not included Item 4: Hugo Boss sport coat, not included Item 5: Zegna sport coat e54L, actually an e64R!!!!!! Item 6: Canali sport coat e54L, actually correctly sized; can you believe it, Item 7: Versace 1 button sport coat; extreme vintage and moth eaten in 2 places, Item 8: Valentino DB pinstripe suit, is vintage and poor shape but may be the claimed size or smaller; say 42L. I don't bring this up to bring you into my little problems, but the seller is claiming to have a wardrobe from a single entrepeneur that has 100's of suits of all the top brands with little or no wear...Zegna, Canali, Brioni, Belvest, Bijan, etc. And is claiming to be listing these over the next few weeks. She/he has also listed scores of Brioni shirts as new or near new that clearly have many many heavily starched collar washings. Those I have stayed away from. Most of the current listings have little information and the entrepeneur story has been woven in over a number of listings over the past several weeks (since someone on either this or AA forum pointed the opportunity out). I should not have been taken it but was. So our phantom single entrepeneur is really an individual that wears from a US 42L to a e64R and hasn't bought a suit in the past 20 years judging from the styles of these. Again don't worry about my foibles as I have bought many great items on Ebay and can afford the $490 mistake. But do watch out and be extremely careful of this seller. Mine is not the first bad feedback she got. In the other case she sold a lot of 10 Brioni shirts for $202 and wouldn't honor the price when she found out that Brioni's may be worth more if they are in good shape. Since that dishonored contract she has listed many lots of Brioni shirts at such a high price few have sold. Remember Ebay is great and horrible at the same time. Let my problem be your lesson. She has told me privately that the next set of listings will be for the Bijan's. So be extremely careful and realize sometime you get what you pay for and sometime you get less. Perry
post #2 of 6
Worst. Auctions. Ever.

Seriously, the pics, description, title, and info are all crappy.

She doesn't strike me as the smart type.

Good luck. Ebay/Paypal can sometimes be difficult to settle things with, but luckily you are on the buying end, which they tend to favor.

Thanks for the heads up on the seller.
post #3 of 6
Thread Starter 
Yes, the info is very sketchy, but unfortunately I pieced the story together over all her auctions and she seemed very personable and I suppose, honest, in my private exchanges with her. In fact I gave her a fair bit of help on how to break up the big lots and the few listing mistakes I could catch. But your impression is correct, I am sure. She simply doesn't know the clothes and probably is not capable of finding the sizing inside the pockets. She may even really be convinced these are nearly new, excellent condition garments. Not everyone can read an Italian inside pocket tag, I suppose. I shouldn't ascribe fraudulent conduct to her, as I simply missed all the danger signals. Or didn't want to see them. Perry
post #4 of 6
Were the unsent items listing errors or things she forgot to send? If that's the case, it doesn't seem like fraud at all, just incompetence (and, really, if she did try to defraud you out of four sportcoats, this is by far some of the most incompetent fraud I've ever seen).
post #5 of 6
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No, I don't read any deliberate fraud into it. Simply incompetence.

She keeps emailing me that she has given me an unlisted garment (referring to the Valentino that is clearly listed in the auction. She is sending me another box saying she forgot one of the 8 garments. Even though I actually am missing 3 not 1.

She has an active listing now for a 44L Boss that was listed as one of the 8 I bought. So she either has 2 of the same coats or is really confused. But sometimes this level of confusion does make you think of fraud, except someone that is fraudulent would normally be much much sneakier about it.

Oh, well I truly didn't list this to go over and over it....simply to allow you folks to be a bit smarter than I, if she does list the Brioni's and Bijan's she says she has. Cause my greed got me caught. I allowed myself to think that I was really finding the proverbial 63 fuelie Corvette found in a barn that hadn't been driven in 40 years!

Perry
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Originally Posted by pkincy
Oh, well I truly didn't list this to go over and over it....simply to allow you folks to be a bit smarter than I, if she does list the Brioni's and Bijan's she says she has. Cause my greed got me caught. I allowed myself to think that I was really finding the proverbial 63 fuelie Corvette found in a barn that hadn't been driven in 40 years!

Thanks for posting (both on Ask Andy's and here). Considering this seller's recent postings on brands for which many forumites may be on the hunt, your warning is very timely.

I really hope you're able to get your money back from eBay without any problems. If she really haas started re-listing items that you should have received as a part of your lot, I don't think you'll have any problems, though.
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