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post #91 of 132
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Originally Posted by sellahi22 View Post
This is a pretty insane POV. Everyone should care, to some degree, about how you are perceived at work. You go to work in order to earn money and advance your career, not flaunt your peacock feathers. That said, some especially charismatic guys can pull off a 3-piece or DB suit, but on the vast majority of men it looks affected and try-hard. It's not the end of the world if people at work think you are weird and eccentric - you won't get fired or suffer major adverse career consequences or anything - but why not try to fit in and exhibit your style more discreetly (through well fitting clothes, tasteful accessories, etc)

100% agree. I've never seen a 3 piece that fitted properly, and indeed it ends up just looking like an affected 19th century gimmick. If you absolutely must get one, I'd make damn sure it's top-level bespoke, since you'll be getting twice the attention with it.
post #92 of 132
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Originally Posted by MCH-est.1818 View Post
I agree!

It is amazing how business attire in our society has devolved over the past several decades. DAMN YOU, CASUAL FRIDAYS, DAMN YOU!

But in all seriousness, I believe 3pc suits are fine in a business setting as long as they are conservative in nature--solid gray or navy, standard pinstripe, or subtle glen plaid --and paired with a simple shirt and tie.

I mean if you can't wear a 3pc, then you shouldn't wear a DB, a pocket square, cufflinks, etc. for fear that any of those items may make you look over-the-top compared to your peers...
That's a good point. Whats the fad with DB? I enjoy slimmer fitting suits and cannot pull of a DB. It's too mature Good point about cufflinks and pocket squares.
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Originally Posted by Sanguis Mortuum View Post
Seriously? I can imagine it being a bit over the top if everyone else wears jeans and t-shirts, but it's really not that big a step from a 2-piece to a 3-piece.

If everyone felt the same as you then nobody would ever wear a 3-piece...

Let's hope I dont get too much shit for this. (sigh)....
post #93 of 132
You guys crack me up...you must be in your 20s...I'm an old guy, almost 60, but I've been wearing nice clothes to the office for thirty-five years without much thought as to what anyone else may think about it. After about one week of being dressed better than anyone else in the office, nobody will even notice it anymore. You shouldn't worry about it so much...nobody ever got fired for dressing nicely, and most people will have respect for your individuality...hell, you may even get other people to second guess their sloppy sartorial choices. At your age, you really should be more concerned about distinguishing yourself from the pack, as opposed to fitting in...if you prove yourself valuable to the company you work for, they really won't care if you're wearing a tuxedo or an oak barrel.
post #94 of 132
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Originally Posted by mlongano View Post
You guys crack me up...you must be in your 20s...I'm an old guy, almost 60, but I've been wearing nice clothes to the office for thirty-five years without much thought as to what anyone else may think about it.

After about one week of being dressed better than anyone else in the office, nobody will even notice it anymore. You shouldn't worry about it so much...nobody ever got fired for dressing nicely, and most people will have respect for your individuality...hell, you may even get other people to second guess their sloppy sartorial choices.
This is very true. I've had the same experience. After several days of people noticing and perceiving me as metro/gay/whatever, everyone not only accepts but they expect it now. After a while, I saw some others dress better. Some women now ask me for advice on how their husbands should dress.
post #95 of 132
It can be OK - you do not however tell us what trade you are in or what position you hold. If you are a brand new graduate it might be too much, if the senior partner or managing director fine. If you are in IT, no, if a lawyer fine.
post #96 of 132
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Originally Posted by GBR View Post
It can be OK - you do not however tell us what trade you are in or what position you hold. If you are a brand new graduate it might be too much, if the senior partner or managing director fine. If you are in IT, no, if a lawyer fine.
I know. I'm in IT :-)
post #97 of 132
Where the hell do you all work where a two-piece is acceptable but a three-piece is considered "wild and crazy?" If that's true, that sounds like a stultifyingly repressed sort of joint.

BTW, I have friends at white shoe law firms who wear three-piece suits on a regular basis, so I don't think it's just my rather liberal definition of acceptable business attire. (In the ad world where I'm from, a Ramones t-shirt -- provided it has plenty of holes in it -- is considered acceptable for client meetings.)
post #98 of 132
I know a guy in his 20's who looks amazing in a pinstriped 3-piece. He pulls it off because he looks like Jeremy Piven's twin brother and has a little chutzpah of his own as a stock broker who works as a movie stunt double on the side. And this is actually in Southern California, where you'd think he would be a pariah. Rather than like a leper, he looks enviably cool.
post #99 of 132
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Originally Posted by mlongano View Post
You guys crack me up...you must be in your 20s...I'm an old guy, almost 60, but I've been wearing nice clothes to the office for thirty-five years without much thought as to what anyone else may think about it.

After about one week of being dressed better than anyone else in the office, nobody will even notice it anymore. You shouldn't worry about it so much...nobody ever got fired for dressing nicely, and most people will have respect for your individuality...hell, you may even get other people to second guess their sloppy sartorial choices.

At your age, you really should be more concerned about distinguishing yourself from the pack, as opposed to fitting in...if you prove yourself valuable to the company you work for, they really won't care if you're wearing a tuxedo or an oak barrel.

+1000
post #100 of 132
Quite honestly, I'm surprised at folks here who wear suits in business casual environments. Suits used to be considered conservative and serious outfits - instead, people here wear them as a sign of rebelliousness in the name of upholding sartorial standards. For some SF members, wearing a suit and tie has become the sartorial equivalent of wearing jeans and cutting the tie. It's one thing if you wear a 3 piece suit in an environment where everyone is dressed in a suit and you have leeway to be a little ostentatious. It's another if you wear a 3 piece suit in an environment where everyone wears khakis and polos, or even conservative 2 piece suits. I can only imagine what I would think if a coworker looked costume-y.
post #101 of 132
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Originally Posted by ArtOrSartor View Post
If anyone's worried about taking flak at the office for putting on a vest, they should get a new job.

Well stated!

The only questions I would have are:

1) Do you have the confidence to pull it off?


2) Would anyone freak out if you wore a sweater vest under a two-piece suit? Then what is wrong with a three-piece?
post #102 of 132
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Originally Posted by Film Noir Buff View Post
Not to single you out socky but the amount of crap advice on here is galactic. I have never in my life encountered a client holding their advisor or salesman's being well dressed and well groomed against them. The opposite is often true, that poorly groomed, poorly dressed people are discriminated against but the idea that being well put together cuts against you is false.
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Originally Posted by sifl View Post
This is not what I claim. Being well put together is great and respectful of the other meeting attendees. However, some clothing choices can be seen as ostentatious or "over the top", correct? I contend that in many professions these days, a three-piece suit would be seen as ostentatious and an attempt at showing off, rather than an attempt at being well groomed and respectful. Not quite as ostentatious as a monocle or gold cane though - a few notches below of that. I don't like being singled out though - there are two of us.
Without wanting to agree tooo much with a banned member, I agree with sifl. Surely a 3 piece suit requires you are very senior in a company? It's not appropriate wear for say a middle manager? Re an advisor or salesman dressing well, it's a moderate line and what's appropriate for the clientele. If you're wearing splendour and turn up in a high end Bentley, then say "I charge $x per hour", it's likely this will have a very bad effect on middle class people. If your clients are well off and that kind of thing is their level, then no. I've always dressed well at jobs in the last 4 or 5 years and it seems to help me get the job in the first place, people perceive you as very organised and intelligent.... providing you're going in to the job to be dynamic and kick ass, this works well. It's a double edged sword though, male bosses like it because you look how they want the company to look, but they also get jealous too.
post #103 of 132
amazing how many really good points and how many idiotic points have been made in this thread (on both sides of the fence).
post #104 of 132
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Originally Posted by Metlin View Post
Quite honestly, I'm surprised at folks here who wear suits in business casual environments. Suits used to be considered conservative and serious outfits - instead, people here wear them as a sign of rebelliousness in the name of upholding sartorial standards. For some SF members, wearing a suit and tie has become the sartorial equivalent of wearing jeans and cutting the tie. .
That's very true. I can only imagine that 60 years ago some of us would have been wearing T-shirts and pair of jeans to work in an act of rebellion against the conservativeness of environment. Here comes the suit, a 3 pc in particular which is a sign of rebellion and not complying to common standards in an office of 2011. If you want to look like a rebel and eccentric, then wear it. Otherwise no. That is really a great story of a suit and the symbolism behind it, how indeed it has changed since 1950's. From the kernel of a society to the avant-garde of it.
post #105 of 132
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Originally Posted by mkarim View Post
This is very true. I've had the same experience. After several days of people noticing and perceiving me as metro/gay/whatever, everyone not only accepts but they expect it now. After a while, I saw some others dress better. Some women now ask me for advice on how their husbands should dress.

Funny thing was when I first decided to wear ties everyone asked why I was wearing a tie. After about a week, no one cared anymore. After about a few months when I decided to not wear a tie everyone asked me why I wasn't wearing a tie. Then after another week no one cared anymore.
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