Originally Posted by sifl
Yes the Luca Rubinacci counter-example you used is a terrible one. He is anything but attempting careless elegance. He is on the contrary doing his best to dandify the classic style that his father promotes. He is all about adding popping colours and splashy details, certainly not a good picture to illustrate what you wanted: i.e. that a non-geriatric fellow cannot pull the careless look.
Then, I have erred in not being more clear. I am not saying that a non-geriatric fellow cannot pull off the "careless look." I am saying that (1) if you are not already intrinsically non-chalant, it is nearly impossible to look that way through contrivance (e.g., L. Rubinacci) and (2) many of our iconic images of non-chalant men in tailored clothes are of old men in old clothes that no longer fit as new (e.g., today's L. Barbera.)
If you don't think that wearing a sweater vest with all buttons undone except one is not meant to evoke a worn in look, then you're kidding yourself.
BTW, here is Rubinacci pÃ¨re in the same type of getup:
Which of the two look better? BTW, according to a conversation that I think iammatt relayed about the elder Rubinacci, many of the items that he wears are rather old. I think it is fair to say that he is at an age where weight, musculature, and posture change for many men. He might look more rumpled, more "lived in" simply from that.
I wear much older stuff than most people on this forvm. I wear pants from pre-college days in the 1970s. I wear accessories bought in the early 1980s in college. And even in the past week, I have worn a suit made for me fourteen years ago. Here it is:
I would guess most would say that this suit doesn't look "lived in" or fourteen years old. And yet both are true. But, it is (1) made well and from good components, (2) it has been maintained correctly, pressed, keeping its shape despite being flannel, and (3) is on a frame that has not changed weight, posture, or general body measurements in the intervening time.
If I lost ten pounds, starting to have a droopy posture, and stopped having the trousers pressed: instant lived in look.