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post #121 of 3285
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Honestly, any decent PG in last years Magic would probably have taken them to the Finals. Hell Anthony Johnson took over his spot against Boston when Alston got suspended and Johnson did real well. Again, just look at what he is doing in NJ at the moment, it's like he learned nothing. You can't always blame the head coach with player chucking up shots, they really don't have much option but to play him because they are short on PG's so the head coach has to play him. The same when he was with the Magic, he chucked up shots like crazy, the difference with the Magic and Nets is that the Magic has talent in Howard, Lewis, Pietrus, Lee, etc... Plus Hedo handled the ball half the time last year, even before Nelson went down, so you can't say the load was on Alston alone. The Magic are even more loaded this year with the addition of Bass, Carter, Anderson and Barnes so they need a less scoring PG than ever and Jason Williams fits that spot.

Dude was 2 for 12 last night, 3 for 9 before that and 7 for 20 before that. Sadly, I know his stats and plays because he is in one of my fantasy leagues and easily dropped him for Jason Williams without hesitation. He is averaging 40+ pt a game yet he manages to average 11 points and 4-5 assist with 3-4 turnovers a game? That is horrible and that is exactly why he got traded by the Rockets in favor of Brooks and why the Magic had to let him go, plus the ego he had from last year. Again, I agree SVG was an idiot but still, no need to show it, just play the game and let the court skills speak for him.
post #122 of 3285
Rafer alston is worthless. he doesn't dish out enough assists for a PG or enough points to make up for the lack of assits. no steals or high 3pt attempts/percentage. one might argue that NJ doesn't really have anyone that can score, therefore, Rafer has low numbers of assists. but he,bascially has the same stats this year as he was in magic last year, averaging 5 assits a game. he's worthless, so many good pg picks for fantasy leagues. hell, nate robinson is back, i'd pick him up before i take rafer.
post #123 of 3285
analyzing a player's fantasy worth is slightly different than his actual worth to the team and overall offensive/defensive team strategy...
post #124 of 3285
Agree with RFX45 that PG was the weak link for the Magic last year. Disagree that the 33 year old Jason Williams is a significantly better option.
post #125 of 3285
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You guys are crazy. Alston is too temperamental, of course Van Gundy had something to do with it by sitting him for Nelson but getting rid of Alston is a good move. If Nelson didn't get hurt, they would have heard a year long complaint from Alston. With Jason Williams, they know who they got and Williams know he is coming off the bench. He still got it and watch and see, the Magic will finally have a passing PG for once. He'll be able to knock 2-3 three's a game too.

I really suggest you guys watch Alston take over Devin Harris in New Jersey, dude just keeps chucking up shots like he's Kobe (that ones for you Steve). Alston doesn't distribute the ball well, in 6-7 games as a starter, his one highlight was a triple double and there really wasn't anything else to brag about before or after that.

Carter maybe old and he won't be jumping over anyone but he is surprisingly good still. He fits in with Magic 3-point shooters well and can still score.

Plus you guys are talking as if Alston is an exciting player, he isn't doing And 1 anymore, you won't see him break anyone ankle and then throwing behind the back lobs for a thunderous dunks to Dwight or Carter. Jason Williams was a lot more entertaining than Alston ever was in the NBA. Check out his highlights, white chocolate will have you scratching your head in awe. The only downside to him is that he is also injury prone, hopefully he stays healthy for the Magic while Nelson is out.

Overall, if I were to pick a back-up PG, Williams > Alston any day, unless of course it is street ball then Alston may have the edge.

I sure hope not..Maybe I can pick up Alston.
post #126 of 3285
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Agree with RFX45 that PG was the weak link for the Magic last year. Disagree that the 33 year old Jason Williams is a significantly better option.

For the magic, he is. They do not need a scoring PG, they already ahve plenty of scorers, 3 pointers no less and a solid defense. So a passing PG is more suitable, which I think what they really need now more than ever since their facilitator is now gone (Hedo).

Steve, I picked up Alstona nd dropped him. If you want him, he is all yours. I have Williams and even though he only gave me 4 points, 1 3-pointer, 4 reb and 5 assists... Alston did a lot worst with 5 pts, 3 reb and 1 assist... 1 ASSIST!!!
post #127 of 3285
Marcus Camby, injured again...
post #128 of 3285
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Originally Posted by hboogz View Post
analyzing a player's fantasy worth is slightly different than his actual worth to the team and overall offensive/defensive team strategy...

fantasy points aside, what is rafer's important role to magic that any decent pg couldn't do, or do better?
he doesn't have great ball control, too many turn overs. lacking defense skills shown by the lack of steals. Magic has one of the most dominating bigman in the league, yet rafer couldn't provide assists last year.
now he's on NJ, and NJ is on a 0-12 losing streak....
Jason Williams is not "significantly" better than rafer alston however, he's just as worthless.
post #129 of 3285
News flash: I think Kobe is BETTER than BOTH of them.

And I have Camby. I'm going to change my team name to Band-Aid
post #130 of 3285
Jason Whitlock thinks LeBron should zip it.

Tell it like it is - they don't make sportswriters like this anymore.
post #131 of 3285
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Jason Whitlock thinks LeBron should zip it.

Tell it like it is - they don't make sportswriters like this anymore.

I don't like Whitlock, but that was very interesting. I felt similarly when I heard Lebron saying that Jordan's number should be retired league-wide. He said "I feel like no NBA player should wear 23. Nobody. If I'm not going to wear No. 23, then nobody else should be able to wear it."

You're good- amazing really. That's actually an understatement. But win something first please before saying stuff like this.

Also, the whole episode where he wouldn't shake hands after loosing and still stands by that, it irks me as well.
post #132 of 3285
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Jason Whitlock thinks LeBron should zip it.

Tell it like it is - they don't make sportswriters like this anymore.

I would buy a ticket to watch Lebron play football.
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post #134 of 3285
Funny, that used to be illegal.
post #135 of 3285
yeah the behind the backboard shot used to not be counted. it was just a turnover (out of bounds) if i recall.

i love kobe.
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