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Bent over rows?

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
I'm on a 5x5 program that uses bent over rows to exercise the back, but upon completing 5 sets my back doesn't feel as activated/pumped/etc as when doing bench presses or squats. It could be my form. Is this common? Any good substitutes for bent over rows? A few options:
post #2 of 14
http://stronglifts.com/how-to-perfor...per-technique/ Or inverted rows if you can't hack it. Don't use machines or cables
post #3 of 14
Thread Starter 
Nice article, hopefully their advice works because I definitely prefer free weights to machines.
post #4 of 14
If you work out at home, just get one of those cheap t-bar attachments, throw it on one end of the bar, and stick the other in the corner of your garage/basement/workout room, and do t-bar rows.

But as far as bent over rows go, I've never totally understood the principal difference in form between bent over rows and rear delt rows. Anyone care to explain?
post #5 of 14
It's your form. Lower the weight and start again properly. I guarentee you aren't bending far enough.

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...ntOverRow.html
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...ntOverRow.html
post #6 of 14
Use more weight!

Start the bar on the ground in the same position as a deadlift, in the middle of the length of your foot.

Make sure you pull off the ground and hit your upper ab with the bar every rep, too. People are so bad about cheating at this particular exercise.

Think of driving your elbows to the ceiling.
post #7 of 14
Speaking of the deadlift... if you want the BEST exercise for your back do them. Will fit perfectly in a 5x5 program.

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Originally Posted by Pennglock View Post
Use more weight!

Start the bar on the ground in the same position as a deadlift, in the middle of the length of your foot.

Make sure you pull off the ground and hit your upper ab with the bar every rep, too. People are so bad about cheating at this particular exercise.

Think of driving your elbows to the ceiling.
post #8 of 14
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Originally Posted by wmmk View Post
But as far as bent over rows go, I've never totally understood the principal difference in form between bent over rows and rear delt rows. Anyone care to explain?
The lats are a biarticulate muscle and stabilize the shoulders while stabilizing the spine. Rear delt rows pull with the shoulder but don't load the lats very hard because there's no stress on the second (and most influential) joint they cross: the spine. In other words, the lats will only be as strong as the primary muscle involved in the pull during a rear delt row (the tiny little rear delts).
post #9 of 14
Yea you definitely want to try leaning in more. Get some flexibility into your back though start off with a lower weight as it tends to be dangerous to lean so far in.
post #10 of 14
austrailian pullups
post #11 of 14
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Originally Posted by Zintintin View Post
It's your form. Lower the weight and start again properly. I guarentee you aren't bending far enough.

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...ntOverRow.html

yup, that's how i do them. except i don't wrap my thumb around the bar
post #12 of 14
People cheat and contort with bent rows, then abort because they feel no gain.

In my opinion, after years of trying different approaches, the Pendlay row is the gold standard for bent rows. The key to the Pendlay row is to keep the back PARALLEL to the floor through the entire lift, and to lift the weight as dead, deloaded weight for each rep.

Take a slightly wider than shoulder width stance, bend the knees and flatten the back to parallel, and grasp the bar with a wide grip (between clean placement and snatch placement, or at least one handwidth outside clean). Remain parellel and pull the bar completely to your CHEST by contracting the back muscles, then return the bar completely to the floor and DELOAD. Pause briefly, then repeat. 5x5, followed by a series of add-weight 1x is what I usually do.

Doing it properly is important, and will probably involve starting with less weight than your dick thinks you should.

Look on google and youtube for Pendlay row.
post #13 of 14
pump and growth aren't always related, don't worry
post #14 of 14
When you do your rows, imagine a hot female trainer standing next to you with her hand between your shoulder blades telling you to keep your shoulders back and try to "squeeze" her hand. I don't know if this will help your back feel pumped, but it sure is fun nonetheless.
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