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post #121 of 240
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Is this current and accurate information?

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post #122 of 240
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Originally Posted by A Harris
There is no inconsistency. As stated, they're samples. Which means I can sell them however I'd like. Standard industry practice. Nobody in their right mind would question that, unless they are trying to start trouble.
I looked at the listing and couldn't find any mention of these shoes being samples. The only significance of this observation is that the original poster in this thread would not have known that they were samples, and, in my opinion, was not trying to "start trouble." And nobody is suggesting that it is in any way contrary to standard industry practice for reps to sell their samples. You are missing the central point of this thread, and that is: Your actions seem to suggest that the only people who can undercut BG are the NA reps. Then undercutting BG is OK. But if anyone else undercuts BG pricewise, it's not OK, and that person must be brought into line. So, let's be clear on the issue.

I think you can understand why many forumers would conclude that the motives of Vass North America are not "the greatest good for the greatest number," but rather "the greatest good for Vass North America." Since your objectives as a Vass NA rep directly clash with those of many forumers, you can, I'm sure, see why this development has generated bad feeling. We are all governed by our own self-interest, and you can't expect SF and AAAC forumers to be cheerleaders for the growth and success of Vass North America if the steps towards that growth are hurting them financially.

I have a question for you, A Harris: Can you tell us what you think the consequences to Vass sales in the US will be from (a) your shutting-down of the German seller and (b) the response to this action from members of this and the AAAC forums? If you don't have a firm opinion on this, perhaps you could speculate.
post #123 of 240
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It would be similar to someone selling Jay Allen merchandise in the same fashion.

Or bragging about undercutting the current Forum specials from Engineered Garments and Michael J. Krell.

Or bragging about scooping Chris' source on the Grensons.

IMO just not done...
post #124 of 240
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Your actions seem to suggest that the only people who can undercut BG are the NA reps. Then undercutting BG is OK. But if anyone else undercuts BG pricewise, it's not OK, and that person must be brought into line. So, let's be clear on the issue.

Huh???

Selling samples cannot be considered undercutting a retailer by any stretch of the imagination. Haven't you ever heard of a sample sale?
post #125 of 240
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Originally Posted by A Harris
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Can you tell us when this policy was changed (as it evidently was the policy in the past), and what led to its change?
post #126 of 240
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Originally Posted by A Harris
Huh???

Selling samples for less than retail cannot be considered undercutting a retailer by any stretch of the imagination. Haven't you ever heard of a sample sale?
I have. Would BG not feel that they were losing sales by having their rep selling the same shoes for significantly less than they, BG, were? This would seem to be consistent with the definition of "undercutting" in my lexicon. Or are you saying that it's only "undercutting" when someone other than a Vass NA rep does this (selling Vass shoes for less than BG does)?
post #127 of 240
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Originally Posted by A Harris
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Dr. David B got his brown Vass dress boots delivered this February (two months ago) to the United States direct from Vass for $615, including delivery and bank fee.
post #128 of 240
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Is this current and accurate information?

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post #129 of 240
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I have a question for you, A Harris: Can you tell us what you think the consequences to Vass sales in the US will be from (a) your shutting-down of the German seller and (b) the response to this action from members of this and the AAAC forums? If you don't have a firm opinion on this, perhaps you could speculate.

First, we did not "shut down' the German seller.

Second, by protecting our retailers, we assured that there would continue to be a retail market for Vass shoes in the United States.

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I have. Would BG not feel that they were losing sales by having their rep selling the same shoes for significantly less than they, BG, were? This would seem to be consistent with the definition of "undercutting" in my lexicon. Or are you saying that it's only "undercutting" when someone other than a Vass NA rep does this (selling Vass shoes for less than BG does)?

Asked and answered. What's the deal, do you just like to hear yourself talk?
post #130 of 240
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Originally Posted by A Harris
What's the deal, do you just like to hear yourself talk?

Harold Burson would have been asking you that same question after your FIRST post in regards to the Vass matter.
post #131 of 240
Thanks Tomasso, for your continued support. How stupid of me to feel like responding after several days of continuous PERSONAL attacks on two forums of which I've been a longtime member.

And before everyone chimes with 'it's just business' - I don't buy that and never have. I do not have two different standards of conduct. Attack my business practices and you are attacking me. Period.
post #132 of 240
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Or bragging about scooping Chris' source on the Grensons.

Speaking of, anyone remember how Paul Stuart shut down the source after the first batch?
post #133 of 240
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Originally Posted by A Harris
How stupid of me to feel like responding after several days of continuous PERSONAL attacks

I've observed this situation from its germination and it is my opinion that it could have been avoided if there would have been ZERO input from the Vass(North America) interests.

Your continuous participation in this dialogue is pointless and only serves to further damage your credibility on this MB.

I know Harold Burson and he has confided in me that the most difficult aspect of his business is convincing his clients to SHUT UP.
post #134 of 240
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Originally Posted by Steve B.
I have been asked by J. to clarify that I have expressed my opinion, not the Forum's.

Yes, it appears that J has identified you as being a loose canon{sic} and wishes to distance himself from you. But, J should be advised that his interests are not well served by your belligerent rhetoric.
post #135 of 240
Wow you (Steve B.) can reply without editing someone elses post you know? Editing your reply into someone's post is about as deceptive/unclassy as you can ge; and acting like a "loose cannon" doesn't exactly make anyone want to take you seriously.
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