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R.M.Williams and C&J - leather quality

post #1 of 9
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Any experts here? I suspect C&J has the better leather, but the RMW "Comfort Craftsman" is such a damn fine boot - one piece of leather and all that. Anyway, any advice appreciated.
post #2 of 9
What's the question here?
post #3 of 9
I believe he is asking about the quality of the leather between the two.
post #4 of 9
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Originally Posted by Avebury View Post
Any experts here? I suspect C&J has the better leather, but the RMW "Comfort Craftsman" is such a damn fine boot - one piece of leather and all that. Anyway, any advice appreciated.

Have no experience with C&J but RMW offer a selection of leathers if you want to go down the MTO path. And as you say: their whole-cuts are damn fine boots.

Cheers
post #5 of 9
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Thanks for the feedback.

It's always difficult to tell, but from having looked at both boots I'd say that Crockett & Jones has it - the leather and finish (chestnut burnished) is much better. The boots are also £100 more in store, but that's no true guide. You can buy the re-badged boot for a little over £200 from online retailers, so they are about the same price. Quality of construction is equally as good - RMW do make particularly well constructed boots. The style - Craftsman - is of course a classic. I'm still deciding, but I suspect I'll go for C&J as I know I'm on safe ground. The colour is nicer. The RMW 'whisky' is to my eye closer to chestnut than their 'chestnut. It looks like dark brown.

I guess it's a case of getting feedback (pics would be nice) from people who have owned either of these boots for at least a year - I'll have a good idea how they have worn in. Heavy creasing, retained shape, nice colour developed, has the sole stood up, excessive wear and tear, etc.

The proof of the pudding is in the eating, so to speak.

The most abused word in retail is 'quality'.
post #6 of 9
The C&J is not a whole-cut. Have you checked the RMW thread: "RM Williams Boots - Everything You Wanted to Know"? Tons of pics there. Cheers
post #7 of 9
If you're talking about just leather, then C&J has the slight lead. I have a pair of CJs in brown and the color is stunning. The most beautiful pair of shoes that I own.

RMW does offer the CC in variety of leathers under the MTO option, so you may consider that as well. I have the RMWs in kangaroo and love the feel, weight and texture as it's very unique. By far my most comfortable and good looking pair of footwear.
post #8 of 9
I had both but got rid of the RM Williams. I think the C&J is superior in its shape and leather quality. I don't really care that the RM Williams is a wholecut. I like them both, fwiw, I just think the C&J is notably nicer.
post #9 of 9
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Sator states (in his excellent thread): "The overall quality of their boots can be best described as basic high end comparable to AE and superior to Loakes." Only one opinion, mind, but if true, then RMW is nowhere near C&J 'benchgrade' in quality. Actually, I think he underrates them somewhat: they are far better than AE. Different league to Loake. Better than Barker, but below C&J and Grenson "Rose". That's my impression from having handled most of these boots.

RMW is a bit of an odd fish: one foot in practical, knockabout territory, the other in smart dress boot territory. C&J is dress boot all the way. Does anyone here wear their C&J for riding? It would be interesting to know how they have held up. As a knockabout boot, RMW edges it (leather not so important), but as a true dress boot C&J has it. But those RMW lines are so seductive! As always, try 'em on, choose, then regret purchase later! Odds not bad: 50/50.
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