Reverse full windsor knot technique that starts with seam facing out?

Is it this?

http://www.tie-a-tie.net/pratt.html

I believe this is called a Shelby. Used to be quite popular... rather lost now. please post pics when you can...

...or Pratt. In my experience it has the same volume as a half-Windsor. Jeff

I tie a knot that would seem to be the same as the wrong side out start you describe.

I have got so used to it that its now the only knot I can use. Once you get used to it it is easy to do unconsciously and well, whilst not even looking.

It isn't as thick as a full Windsor and it seems to stay up at the neckline much better than any other knot.

I always called it the "USA TV presenter knot" and I believe there is a description of it and how to on the net.

Sadly any Google search I do on it now turns up news items of TV presenters getting married.

As mentioned by someone else below it seems to be called the Pratt now:

http://www.tie-a-tie.net/pratt.html

Seems I'm at least half right:

The Pratt Knot, also called the Shelby Knot, was invented by Jerry Pratt, who had been wearing his tie with a Pratt knot for many years before it became popularized by TV personality Don Shelby. Mr. Shelby, who would wear his necktie with a Pratt knot while delivering the evening news looked good day in and day out and quickly had many men seeking instructions on how to tie the Pratt knot. Once you learn how to tie the Pratt knot you will come to appreciate its symmetry and that it is simple to tie. The Pratt knot is medium sized, symmetrical knot to be worn with medium and wide collar shirt openings. Quick to tie and good looking the Pratt knot uses less tie length than the Half-Windsor knot, which make it excellent for tall men.

and:
were would we be without wiki

It is also known as the Shelby knot and the Pratt-Shelby. The knot was invented by Jerry Pratt, an employee of the US Chamber of Commerce. He had been wearing his tie in the Pratt knot for some twenty years before it became popular after TV personality Don Shelby wore it on air. The New York fashion press then promptly (and mistakenly) attributed the invention of the knot to Shelby.

The Pratt knot is unusual in that its starting position is 'reverse side out', as does the Nicky knot. It uses less length than the Half Windsor or Windsor knots, and so is well suited to shorter ties. Unlike the Four in Hand knot, the Pratt method produces a symmetrical knot. It is of medium thickness.

See also: Encyclopedia of Tie Knots

and

Open Directory on necktie knots

I always use the Pratt knot. Just make sure your collar covers completely so no one knows your tie is inside out. People think I am wearing a Windsor knot when they see my Pratt knot.

I've used a Pratt for a number of years now. If you're fond of a truly symmetrical knot it has all the others beat hands down IMO.

Until I was 20, I only knew how to tie my tie backward, such that after getting the long end through the knot, I had to take the tie off over my head, turn it around with the right side facing out, and put it back on again. I don't think that's what you're asking for.

Yup- symmetrical and not ridiculously fat like a windsor. The only time I ever use anything else is when I have a tie with a lot of volume like a knit or a thick wool, where I use the four in hand.

nvm

Are people here meaning wearing the skinny side alone out?

No.