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£150 black oxford recommendation?

post #1 of 22
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I was going to get the Alfred Sargent Epsom (actually £155) but I find that all their 'classic' collection shoes are of corrected grain leather. So does anyone have any better ideas? I'm not in the US so Allen Edmonds and that other one(Aldens?) are out of the question.

Thanks ever so much.
post #2 of 22
Have a look at Loake's 1880 range.
post #3 of 22
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Originally Posted by Wes Bourne View Post
Have a look at Loake's 1880 range.

So these are not CG? I was very surprised when Sargent told me theirs were CG.
post #4 of 22
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So these are not CG? I was very surprised when Sargent told me theirs were CG.

No.

http://www.herringshoes.co.uk/produc...electedFitID=0

http://www.loake.co.uk/Shop/Products...g/PID-ALD.aspx
post #5 of 22
Loake 1880 are calf (leather is a bit stiff, but the shoes are decent for the price).

I didn't think all the AS Classic line were CG but I know some are.

Sanders don't get much of a mention on here, but they do calf shoes within your budget and seem good value for the money:

http://www.brogueshoes.co.uk/Sanders-Ambassadors.html

I'm not sure who makes them for Herring, but their classic collection look good value too:

http://www.herringshoes.co.uk/produc...dID=6&catID=42
post #6 of 22
I don't think the Epsom is CG. Skyvalet has them on sale not, btw.
post #7 of 22
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I don't think the Epsom is CG. Skyvalet has them on sale not, btw.

Have a look at this, a PM I was sent by the company on this site:

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Hi Sir,

Re; Epsom, It is indeed corrected, my name is Chay Cooper and I am the Manager at AS, If you need any help with other styles feel free to email me at chayc@alfred-sargent.co.uk
Epsom is from the Classic range which are mostly corrected leathers. All shoes can be purchased direct from the factory if you so wish.

If you would ever like to visit and have a look round you are very welcome, just let me know and we can arrange something to suit.

Kindest regards,

Chay.
post #8 of 22
Sorry to jack your thread mate, but im after a £150 black brogue recommendation. Something sleek, not to 'clumpy' then again not too fashion foward. Love some help, id think of you when i wore them shoe gurus, cheers!
post #9 of 22
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Originally Posted by BareSolid View Post
Have a look at this, a PM I was sent by the company on this site

Quote:
Hi Sir,

Re; Epsom, It is indeed corrected, my name is Chay Cooper and I am the Manager at AS, If you need any help with other styles feel free to email me at chayc@alfred-sargent.co.uk
Epsom is from the Classic range which are mostly corrected leathers. All shoes can be purchased direct from the factory if you so wish.

If you would ever like to visit and have a look round you are very welcome, just let me know and we can arrange something to suit.

Kindest regards,

Chay.

Careful about arranging a visit; next thing you know, you're ordering MTO Sargents with dope bevelled waists and gorgeous sole treatment like clintonf.
post #10 of 22
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Careful about arranging a visit; next thing you know, you're ordering MTO Sargents with dope bevelled waists and gorgeous sole treatment like clintonf.

I suppose I'd have to already own a decent pair of shoes before I got to the Sargent factory so they didn't think I was a joker!
post #11 of 22
Shipton & Heneage usually have a good sale selection: http://www.shiptonandheneage.co.uk/s...-home-1-0.html
post #12 of 22
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Shipton & Heneage usually have a good sale selection:

http://www.shiptonandheneage.co.uk/s...-home-1-0.html

They have a pair of nice looking suede derbies in size 9 that I'd quite like, they're £100... but I have never worn suede (or brown) shoes and would have no idea what to pair them with.
post #13 of 22
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Originally Posted by BareSolid View Post
I was going to get the Alfred Sargent Epsom (actually £155) but I find that all their 'classic' collection shoes are of corrected grain leather. So does anyone have any better ideas? I'm not in the US so Allen Edmonds and that other one(Aldens?) are out of the question.

Thanks ever so much.

You need to set your sights higher.

You are not a million miles from Northampton, the center of English shoemaking. Northampton is full of company stores that sell closeouts and seconds at big discounts, often 50%+. The seconds are usually almost perfect. You often have to spend quite some time examining the shoe to find something that you guess might be the reason it was made a second.

So got to Northampton some Saturday and have a look around. You might well get a very nice shoe from, say, C&J in your price range.
post #14 of 22

Pretty sure my Loake 1880 "Badminton" was CG. It developed creases like ravines and had all the tell-tale signs. It didn't hold polish well. Maybe a mixed bag: some are, some are not.
post #15 of 22
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Originally Posted by gotorightway123 View Post
I don't think the Epsom is CG. Skyvalet has them on sale not, btw.
Yes they are. I have a pair. They're corrected grain. The man from Alfred Sargent said Epsom were corrected grain. Epsom = corrected grain.
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