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post #16 of 43
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Originally Posted by Tokyo Slim
Something like that... The only reason I know this is because I read about it once in a scriptwriting class I took. It sort of stuck with me because I remember watching that episode on reruns when I was little. Plus I've recently been reading about Harlan Ellison.

I honestly haven't watched an episode of Star Trek since I was like 13.

You are both correct. It was Ellisons script that won.

I encourage anyone to pick up some of Ellisons stuff. The Essential Ellison is great. And if you ever get a chance to meet Ellison in person, jump at it.

The Deathbird and Neither Your Jenny Nor Mine deserve special consideration.

As far as Star Trek, I always had a weakspot for Arena and Dagger of the Mind.
post #17 of 43
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Originally Posted by countdemoney
You are both correct. It was Ellisons script that won.

I encourage anyone to pick up some of Ellisons stuff. The Essential Ellison is great. And if you ever get a chance to meet Ellison in person, jump at it.

The Deathbird and Neither Your Jenny Nor Mine deserve special consideration.

As far as Star Trek, I always had a weakspot for Arena and Dagger of the Mind.

Ellisson wrote some good stuff, even though I am/was an Asimov fan myself. Did anyone else feel that The Matrix was largely a rip-off of "I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream?"
post #18 of 43
Wikipedia has some interesting trivia on Ellison's version. Apparently, at the end, Spock lets Keeler die while Kirk is frozen in indecision.

I think I prefer the revised version.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cit...dge_of_Forever
post #19 of 43
I've been reading a lot of Harlan Ellison's stuff from OMNI magazine.
post #20 of 43
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Originally Posted by skalogre
Ellisson wrote some good stuff, even though I am/was an Asimov fan myself. Did anyone else feel that The Matrix was largely a rip-off of "I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream?"

Actually, my crowd always liked the choice between being comfortable in fantasy land and seeing reality. I thought of the movie as a ripoff of Plato's allegory of the cave - i.e. choice of reality, only the golden souled neo has escaped the cave and can see in the sunlight, etc.
post #21 of 43
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Originally Posted by countdemoney
Actually, my crowd always liked the choice between being comfortable in fantasy land and seeing reality. I thought of the movie as a ripoff of Plato's allegory of the cave - i.e. choice of reality, only the golden souled neo has escaped the cave and can see in the sunlight, etc.
More accurately, a ripoff of the Gnostic development of Platonism.

I too have a soft spot for the Klingons. They got probably the two best lines in the series, "Today is a good day to die" and "I will kill you where you stand!"
post #22 of 43
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Originally Posted by Edward Appleby
"Today is a good day to die"

Originally a saying of a Native American tribe.
post #23 of 43
Making a list of the things that The Matrix rips off is longer than a list of things it does not.
post #24 of 43
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Originally Posted by Tokyo Slim
Making a list of the things that The Matrix rips off is longer than a list of things it does not.

And here I was worried that I was the only one not taken in by the Matrix. Thanks Slim!
post #25 of 43
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Originally Posted by skalogre
And here I was worried that I was the only one not taken in by the Matrix. Thanks Slim!

Add me to the list of people who found the original Matrix lacking. Didn't bother with the next two.

As for Star Trek episodes, the one that sticks in my mind for some reason is TNG episode where the crew is infected with some sort of virus which causes them to de-evolve into the earlier life forms from their home planet. I remember that Reiker turned into a cave man.
post #26 of 43
A roommate of mine had a crush on Kate "Janeway" Mulgrew so I saw a fair amount of Voyager at one point. I love Robert Picardo's Doctor. So, so engagingly smarmy. Although I give Data points for having a cat named Spot.
post #27 of 43
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Originally Posted by RJMan
Although I give Data points for having a cat named Spot.

If memory serves, in the episode I mentioned above, Spot turned into an iguana (he got better).
post #28 of 43
What did Data turn into? A toaster?
post #29 of 43
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Originally Posted by RJMan
What did Data turn into? A toaster?

Now you're bringing out the geek in me. I believe Data was the only one not infected, as he was artificial. Somehow he was able to reverse the virus and save the day. However, I like the toaster idea (or perhaps an old-time radio).
post #30 of 43
Data would turn into a Teddy Ruxpin.
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