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post #9616 of 47142
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Got a response from Vanessa at UrbanDaddy. More pics!
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I like those too - but I'm a wingtip nut.  I'd seriously consider getting them, but am also a cordovan nut, and those aren't shell... I suppose I am lucky to have these "problems."

 

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I had been trying to get a pair of Bradley’s in #8 shell since December of last year. However I really have wanted chukka’s in shell since I can recall. To me a PTB chukka shows off shell better than anything. And can go from a suit to jeans with ease. So when they released the Dundee as a webgem I called AE and canceled the Bradley and replaced it with the Dundee in burgundy. The next day I ordered the black shell Dundee. I posted on here that I regretted not getting the cappuccino Dundee when it was offered. Bucksfan sent me a PM and suggested it may worth my time to email Paul the CEO of AE and explain the situation concerning the Bradley’s and ask if it would be possible to have a pair made in cappuccino.

 

I am extremely grateful that bucksfan took the time to contact me, was he ever correct.
 
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Talk about customer service! I emailed Paul on Thursday. Friday I received a call from a lady that has worked at AE for 30 years and she talked to me for 28 min. and 16 seconds, what an educational experience. She apologized for Paul not being able to call me as he was on the road and said Paul had authorized her to make it happen. She had my complete order history and asked a lot of questions. When I told her that the reason I did not get the Dundee was that the Malvern did not fit me and was too tight she immediately replied that was because they used memory foam in the Malvern. Also that there is a shortage of shell and has been for a year now which is why they only do made to order in shell. Horween can not keep up with the demand. She was concerned that I had not seen the cappuccino shell in person and said it was apparent from my order history that I would not be going barefoot any time soon (LOL) so sent samples of the other 3 shell colors to me. And said I had the option of ordering any color, all 3 or none. They showed up the next day, on Saturday. Cappuccino also goes by the name of truffle and it changes based on the lighting dramatically.
 

 

 

 

 
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On Monday I called her back and told her I would like to order all 3, as painful as the cost was it is still a bargain and a once in a lifetime chance to get what I really wanted. They waived all custom charges and she told me I could have them made any way I wanted to. It didn’t take long to decide on Redenbach soles for all 5 pairs, black for #8 and black shell, brown for truffle and dark brown, and natural for the walnut. It will take 2-3 months to get them all I was shocked to get the #8 so fast. Not sure if maybe they were the ones made up for the pictures on the site?
 
Over the next couple of days will try to get some decent pictures and post them. Rainy and dark out so dodging rain drops out of dozen of pictures this is the best I could do. So the newest addition to the fleet is a squadron of DD class (Dundee) USS (United States Shoe).
 
USS Burgundy, DD-1 arriving...
 

 

 

With flash the red shows up much more pronounced. The black highlights do not show up without it so much. The toes are done with more black than red, which I find is a nice touch.

 

 

The one I wanted the most but couldn't seem to get. The Leeds on the left are very brownish in comparison. The Cambridge on the right is a mix of colors but still a little opaque, but less brown. The new Dundees are very glossy and solid colored, yet still have a little depth due to the way they finished them. And you can see it has more of the older wider welt than the Cambridge, which is fine by me. Should be able to click on the pictures to get a better view.

 

 

 I really think that AE nailed it solid with the new shell finish. 

 

 

 

Happy my small contribution helped, Cold Iron.  I am very happy to hear that they took good care of you.  As was noted, you will have a VERY nice collection once they already show up (what am I saying, based on your posts and pictures in this thread alone you already do!)  

 

When you have a moment, could you (for the sake of those of us still considering jumping on these webgems) compare the fit of the Dundees to other 1-last shoes and boots you have?  Did you get the same size as you did in your shell Daltons and Leeds?  How do the Dundees fit in comparison?  Finally, what observations do you have regarding the supposed new shell finish?  

 

 

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I went TTS for my walnut shell Daltons and they fit fine.  But they are unlined.  The consensus seems to go TTS or same as calf.

 

+1... As someone who has owned both calf and shell Daltons, I recommend you get the same size.  The shell is a little more pliable, being unlined, but it will fit the same.  

 

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I love those Cordovan McCallisters... nice shot! 

post #9617 of 47142
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I love those Cordovan McCallisters... nice shot! 

Strange to have Cordovan McCallisters. I thought those would just be Cambridges then.
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They were a webgem in the spring - the biggest difference is that McCallisters are single-sole, Cambridge is double.  (plus the cordovan McCallister was only available in the webgem in that fantastic Truffle or Cappuccino color).  

post #9619 of 47142

What belt and color do you guys wear with you black mctavish's?

any recommendations would be great.

post #9620 of 47142
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Originally Posted by bucksfan View Post

They were a webgem in the spring - the biggest difference is that McCallisters are single-sole, Cambridge is double.  (plus the cordovan McCallister was only available in the webgem in that fantastic Truffle or Cappuccino color).  
Gotcha. I assume the Cordovan McCallisters also have JR soles? If so they are single-soled JR soles?
post #9621 of 47142

I guess I should have mentioned that this is a clinic (not my own) that I work out of only one half day per week. It is in the moderately small town of Hammond, Louisiana which is pretty much halfway between Baton Rouge (where I live) and New Orleans. It is home to a small university, but it's population has a very rural/agricultural background.

 

Thanks for the input. I'll chalk it up to ignorance. I love the comfort and look of these boots and will continue to wear them proudly.

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I guess I should have mentioned that this is a clinic (not my own) that I work out of only one half day per week. It is in the moderately small town of Hammond, Louisiana which is pretty much halfway between Baton Rouge (where I live) and New Orleans. It is home to a small university, but it's population has a very rural/agricultural background.

 

Thanks for the input. I'll chalk it up to ignorance. I love the comfort and look of these boots and will continue to wear them proudly.

Uh oh.  As it's pretty likely there is only one such clinic in this small town and your coworkers are regular posters on SF, I think you just outed yourself to them.  smile.gif

post #9623 of 47142
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Originally Posted by Winston S. View Post

Gotcha. I assume the Cordovan McCallisters also have JR soles? If so they are single-soled JR soles?

 

I believe so, but I don't own them, so not sure.  I presume they would have used the same sole as the strands, but note that they gave these "wheeling" treatment on the top of the welt as well.  Damn - why didn't I buy these?


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post #9624 of 47142
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Originally Posted by bucksfan View Post

 

Happy my small contribution helped, Cold Iron.  I am very happy to hear that they took good care of you.  As was noted, you will have a VERY nice collection once they already show up (what am I saying, based on your posts and pictures in this thread alone you already do!)  

 

When you have a moment, could you (for the sake of those of us still considering jumping on these webgems) compare the fit of the Dundees to other 1-last shoes and boots you have?  Did you get the same size as you did in your shell Daltons and Leeds?  How do the Dundees fit in comparison?  Finally, what observations do you have regarding the supposed new shell finish?  

 

I purchased my normal size for the Dundee which is 10D. My shell Leeds fit almost perfectly in that size, shell Dalton boots are very large in the heel at that size. I think that is more because of the specific boot that was made not the Dalton in general however. The Dundee is also large in the heel not near as much as the Dalton, but I have a very narrow heel so expected that.  In calf my Bayfield’s are like a custom snug fit all the way around and that is with fairly light socks. The Wilbert and Shelton’s are middle of the road for me in the #1 last and similar to the Leeds. With fairly lightweight wool socks the Dundee is roomy. Midweight wool socks fill the space nicely. I feel going down half a size would be too small and the width is about perfect at the ball of my foot. The collar opening is nice and soft without being too tight or too loose. They even fit a bit better than my AE Katmai chukkas. And they are already developing very nice rolls.

 

The finish, not so sure now. Last night when I received them I did my wipe down with a damp cloth and noticed that a lot of red cream came off. Brushed for ~15 minutes and they had a much higher gloss than the other #8 shells and stopped. The red seems much deeper on these. Lighting wasn’t the best and they seemed dark most of the time with the exception of the flash of the camera where it was bright solid red. This morning I wore them to work (but of course) and it decided to pour rain on my 50 foot dash to the door.  As soon as I got to my office wiped them down with a cloth I have just for that purpose and it turned red, there was a lot of cream on them. No spotting or water welts thank goodness, think I can skip a heart stress test or 2 for a while now. But they lost a lot of the shine and not sure about the gloss vs. opaque of the older #8 shell. Just went for a half hour brisk walk and the sun came out and they looked great, very red with black streaks and even glossy, it is a totally different shoe in bright lighting.

 

I’m going to reserve some caution on the “new” finish for now. When I get home I am going to break out the Reno and try to remove as much of the cream as I can. I know AE favors cream over wax for shell but I am not a fan of the cream for shell unless it is scratched up badly. Normally I just brush them (a lot) and once in a great while put a thin coat of wax on them. Once I get them clean I will brush the heck out of them like I normally do for an hour or so.  Then depending on how they look a very light coat of wax IF they need it. Will try to get them ready and pictures up with better lighting soon.

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Originally Posted by bucksfan View Post

 

I presume they would have used the same sole as the strands, but note that they gave the "wheeling" on the top of the welt additional treatment as well.  Damn - why didn't I buy these?

 

I'd say me too and mean it. But the last time I said that....  I try not to do carbs so Ramen noodles and PB&J sandwhiches are out of the question. Thank goodness it is almost hunting season, I'm going to have to do a lot of the kill it and grill it thing if I want to eat as it is now biggrin.gif

post #9625 of 47142

Hi All,

 

Just received some pictures of the Amsterdam from Vanessa at Urban Daddy.  I was torn between the Amsterdam and the Gramercy but after seeing pictures of both I think I'm leaning towards the Amsterdam.

 

 

post #9626 of 47142
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Originally Posted by Cold Iron View Post

 

I purchased my normal size for the Dundee which is 10D.

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My shell Leeds fit almost perfectly in that size, shell Dalton boots are very large in the heel at that size. I think that is more because of the specific boot that was made not the Dalton in general however. The Dundee is also large in the heel not near as much as the Dalton, but I have a very narrow heel so expected that.  In calf my Bayfield’s are like a custom snug fit all the way around and that is with fairly light socks. The Wilbert and Shelton’s are middle of the road for me in the #1 last and similar to the Leeds. With fairly lightweight wool socks the Dundee is roomy. Midweight wool socks fill the space nicely. I feel going down half a size would be too small and the width is about perfect at the ball of my foot. The collar opening is nice and soft without being too tight or too loose. They even fit a bit better than my AE Katmai chukkas. And they are already developing very nice rolls.

 

The finish, not so sure now. Last night when I received them I did my wipe down with a damp cloth and noticed that a lot of red cream came off. Brushed for ~15 minutes and they had a much higher gloss than the other #8 shells and stopped. The red seems much deeper on these. Lighting wasn’t the best and they seemed dark most of the time with the exception of the flash of the camera where it was bright solid red. This morning I wore them to work (but of course) and it decided to pour rain on my 50 foot dash to the door.  As soon as I got to my office wiped them down with a cloth I have just for that purpose and it turned red, there was a lot of cream on them. No spotting or water welts thank goodness, think I can skip a heart stress test or 2 for a while now. But they lost a lot of the shine and not sure about the gloss vs. opaque of the older #8 shell. Just went for a half hour brisk walk and the sun came out and they looked great, very red with black streaks and even glossy, it is a totally different shoe in bright lighting.

 

I’m going to reserve some caution on the “new” finish for now. When I get home I am going to break out the Reno and try to remove as much of the cream as I can. I know AE favors cream over wax for shell but I am not a fan of the cream for shell unless it is scratched up badly. Normally I just brush them (a lot) and once in a great while put a thin coat of wax on them. Once I get them clean I will brush the heck out of them like I normally do for an hour or so.  Then depending on how they look a very light coat of wax IF they need it. Will try to get them ready and pictures up with better lighting soon.

 

 

 

I'd say me too and mean it. But the last time I said that....  I try not to do carbs so Ramen noodles and PB&J sandwhiches are out of the question. Thank goodness it is almost hunting season, I'm going to have to do a lot of the kill it and grill it thing if I want to eat as it is now biggrin.gif

 

Thank you for the detailed response regarding fit and finish.  I hope your new Dundees made it through the day unscathed and I'm looking forward to the pictures....    and devil.gif

post #9627 of 47142
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Thank you for the detailed response regarding fit and finish.  I hope your new Dundees made it through the day unscathed and I'm looking forward to the pictures....    and devil.gif

+1 nod[1].gif
post #9628 of 47142
Can someone answer my questions? I posted this a few weeks ago. I started to noticed that my Neumora's are creasing above the cap toe. I thought I've read on the forums that the crease should always be before the cap toe. Is this correct? Does it really matter?
post #9629 of 47142
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Originally Posted by bucksfan View Post

 

I believe so, but I don't own them, so not sure.  I presume they would have used the same sole as the strands, but note that they gave these "wheeling" treatment on the top of the welt as well.  Damn - why didn't I buy these?

 

Confirmed, JR soles on the capp shell McAllisters. Definitely a different feel between the single sole and the firmer feeling double sole.

 

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Originally Posted by Cold Iron View Post

 

I'd say me too and mean it. But the last time I said that....  I try not to do carbs so Ramen noodles and PB&J sandwhiches are out of the question. Thank goodness it is almost hunting season, I'm going to have to do a lot of the kill it and grill it thing if I want to eat as it is now biggrin.gif

 

Congrats on the new addition Cold Iron and definitely looking forward to the pics of your cappuccino (truffle) if I read your post correctly. The detailed description was also good and has me excited for my shipment.

 

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Originally Posted by millerbk View Post

Hi All,

 

Just received some pictures of the Amsterdam from Vanessa at Urban Daddy.  I was torn between the Amsterdam and the Gramercy but after seeing pictures of both I think I'm leaning towards the Amsterdam.

 

 

 

I may have to wait on the bourbon to see the color in person. The darker orange is appealing, but wondering about the color hue difference between this and the burnish walnut in the Daltons.

But, if the come out with a bourbon shell... that is a horse of another color (no pun intended).

post #9630 of 47142
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Originally Posted by dieselman89 View Post

Can someone answer my questions? I posted this a few weeks ago. I started to noticed that my Neumora's are creasing above the cap toe. I thought I've read on the forums that the crease should always be before the cap toe. Is this correct? Does it really matter?

There was some discussion about this earlier in this thread this week. I think there was something about the stiffner in the cap toe not extending far enough. Don't think there is anything you can really do about it. The closer the line for the cap toe is to the vamp the more of a chance there is it will crease pass the cap toe I think.
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