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post #9061 of 48098
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Originally Posted by spitshine123 View Post

Personally I would love for AE to make a shoe in the color in your pic (something in between walnut and burnished brown). Walnut can be too flashy at times, while brown can be a little boring.

Wait for the Bourbon color to come out this fall or next spring. I have some older AE's in Bourbon and I think it might be close to what you are wanting.

Here are a couple of my older Bourbon AE's



Chris
post #9062 of 48098
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Originally Posted by BackInTheJox View Post

Yeah it's mostly the red hue.  I already have two pairs of shoes in Chili (Fairfax and Delray), so I have no interest in turning my Strands into a third pair of the same/similar color.  

I have read on here that using the Walnut polish tends to darken Walnut Strands after a while (and sort of adds an orange-ish hue).  The recommendations given on here seem to indicate that either Cognac or Neutral would keep the Strands their light color.  My Strands are still pretty much brand new, but I have put several coats of Cognac polish on them and even that seems to have possibly darkened them a smidgen (I can tell because I didn't polish the tongue and the tongue leather looks a tad lighter than the rest of the shoe now).  

I know it seems silly that Walnut polish would make the Walnut leather a slightly different color than it was to begin with; however, I have noticed a similar phenomenon with Chili polish/leather.  My AE Chili polish seems to add more of a reddish hue that dominates any orange-ish hues that were present originally.  I do quite like this, actually, so I have no complaints there.

1. I have a few walnut calf models. I use walnut AE polish. I have never experienced a noticeable change in color.
2.. I use burgundy/merlot every 4th polish or so on my chili calf shoes. It lessens the likelihood that the shoe becomes too red or too orange.
post #9063 of 48098

You're usually a 9D in AE? Or some other type of shoe(s)?  You have two photos here.  What are their sizes?

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Originally Posted by TRIALnERROR View Post

I purchased my first pair of Park Ave's and I'm having an issue with "bowing out" around my ankles. I'm usually a 9 (D), but I've tried sizing up and down by a half size and I still have the issue. These are factory shipped virgins, does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks in advance for any guidance.

 

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post #9064 of 48098
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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post

 

He's had the same problem in three different sizes, which suggests it might not be a defect in the shoe.  It might be an issue regarding the anatomy of his foot not fitting the 5 last very well.  I know we used to be too quick to blame the foot's anatomy, but I sometimes wonder if we've gone to the other extreme now in labeling every sign of bowing as a defect.  AE's are prone to this bowing, but the extent of the bowing seems to have a multitude of causes and a defect in the shoe is only one of the potential causes.

 

If there is an AE store nearby, I would go in to see what they say.  I would also consider another shoe on a different last to see if the problem persists.  Perhaps the Clifton on the 8 last or one of the 3 last shoes.


Thanks. I've been to my local AE store and the salesman I spoke with said his shoes do the same. He showed me his AE's (different model) and they did bow, but not as much. I decided to size down from a 9 to an 8.5 while in the store and the bowing was still evident, but very minimal. They didn't have the 8.5 in black, so he ordered a virgin pair from the factory to be sent to me. After receiving them today, they seem to bow more than the 8.5 I tried on in the store. Since the AE store is close, maybe I'll go try another last. I'm disappointed as I really like the Park Ave. Maybe it's my anatomy, but none of my other shoes exhibit this. There seems to be a lot of talk of "bowing" or "flaring" over the past month or so. Has this always been the case or is there a recent quality control issue?

post #9065 of 48098
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Originally Posted by PhiPsi32 View Post

You're usually a 9D in AE? Or some other type of shoe(s)?  You have two photos here.  What are their sizes?

Most my shoes are 9D including the only other pair of AE's I own (Redding). I understand the sizes vary by model/last, but I was expecting a better fit for the money. These are both photos of the 8.5 pair I received today, one left and one right. Should I send back for another pair or just live with it? Thanks for any insight.

post #9066 of 48098
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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post

He's had the same problem in three different sizes, which suggests it might not be a defect in the shoe.  It might be an issue regarding the anatomy of his foot not fitting the 5 last very well.  I know we used to be too quick to blame the foot's anatomy, but I sometimes wonder if we've gone to the other extreme now in labeling every sign of bowing as a defect.  AE's are prone to this bowing, but the extent of the bowing seems to have a multitude of causes and a defect in the shoe is only one of the potential causes.

If there is an AE store nearby, I would go in to see what they say.  I would also consider another shoe on a different last to see if the problem persists.  Perhaps the Clifton on the 8 last or one of the 3 last shoes.

Whatever it is, it's frustrating. I've tried 7.5eee, 8d, 8e, 8.5e and now 8ee on the 5 last. 8ee feels the best, but it's the only one that bows. It also laces almost all the way shut. I'd probably be better off with Alden, but it's a hassle in Canada.
post #9067 of 48098

No, you should not live with it.  I suggest you get a fitting (anywhere) and ask the salesperson to show you your measurements.  Read up on measurements here

 

http://brannock.com/cgi-bin/start.cgi/brannock/instructions.html

 

This is how I discovered that I had been fitted incorrectly (after trying on 15 different sizes of Park Avenue shoes).  I discovered my correct size by accident.  A proper Brannock measurement would have gotten me there in one shot.

post #9068 of 48098
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Originally Posted by TRIALnERROR View Post


Thanks. I've been to my local AE store and the salesman I spoke with said his shoes do the same. He showed me his AE's (different model) and they did bow, but not as much. I decided to size down from a 9 to an 8.5 while in the store and the bowing was still evident, but very minimal. They didn't have the 8.5 in black, so he ordered a virgin pair from the factory to be sent to me. After receiving them today, they seem to bow more than the 8.5 I tried on in the store. Since the AE store is close, maybe I'll go try another last. I'm disappointed as I really like the Park Ave. Maybe it's my anatomy, but none of my other shoes exhibit this. There seems to be a lot of talk of "bowing" or "flaring" over the past month or so. Has this always been the case or is there a recent quality control issue?

 

For what it's worth, I have mild bowing in all my 5 last shoes, but not in my 8 last shoes.  It's not extreme enough to bother me.  Also, a shoe is going to have some bowing while you try to break it in due to the stiffness of the sole (it has to flex somewhere).  That said, if this pair bows significantly worse than the pair you tried on in the store, I would probably return them and try again before giving up on the Park Avenue. 

 

Also, listen to what Phi Psi has to say regarding sizing.  The guy is a real sizing guru for AE.

post #9069 of 48098
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

This seems to be a recurring problem for AE. That's unfortunate.

Yup, I agree.

Regards.
post #9070 of 48098
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Originally Posted by PhiPsi32 View Post

No, you should not live with it.  I suggest you get a fitting (anywhere) and ask the salesperson to show you your measurements.  Read up on measurements here

 

http://brannock.com/cgi-bin/start.cgi/brannock/instructions.html

 

This is how I discovered that I had been fitted incorrectly (after trying on 15 different sizes of Park Avenue shoes).  I discovered my correct size by accident.  A proper Brannock measurement would have gotten me there in one shot.

 

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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post

 

For what it's worth, I have mild bowing in all my 5 last shoes, but not in my 8 last shoes.  It's not extreme enough to bother me.  Also, a shoe is going to have some bowing while you try to break it in due to the stiffness of the sole (it has to flex somewhere).  That said, if this pair bows significantly worse than the pair you tried on in the store, I would probably return them and try again before giving up on the Park Avenue. 

 

Also, listen to what Phi Psi has to say regarding sizing.  The guy is a real sizing guru for AE.


Thanks guys, I appreciate the feedback. I'm going to take Phi Psi's suggestion and get a proper fitting at AE. Hopefully this will resolve my issue.

post #9071 of 48098

Let us know how you make out.

post #9072 of 48098

My recently purchased Park Ave. (the ones with the heel issue mentioned earlier in this thread) have the same issue.  I might try to go a size narrower when I exchange them (if they'll let me).

post #9073 of 48098
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Originally Posted by PhiPsi32 View Post

Let us know how you make out.


Will do, heading over now.

post #9074 of 48098
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Originally Posted by TRIALnERROR View Post


Will do, heading over now.


Carpe diem, dude!

post #9075 of 48098
It may just be that the 5 last is not for you.

Welcome to the club. I don't even need laces to make shoes on the 7 fit my foot perfectly, however.
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