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post #8236 of 48285
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Originally Posted by BackInTheJox View Post

So I'm about to finally pull the trigger and order a pair of Strands from Nordstrom.  My only hesitation is that, although they fit fine, I'm not a huge fan of the overall shape of my McAllisters (which are shown below, in 9.5 E next to my 9.5 E Lasalles).  I prefer the 8 last to the 5 last, and although I realize they are completely different shoes, the 8 last seems much more streamlined and the shape is overall more aesthetically pleasing to me than the McAllister on the 5.  Is the Strand essentially the exact same shape in 3 dimensions as the McAllister?  

 

 

 

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I have Delrays and am a huge 8 last fan and am not the biggest fan of the roundness of the 5 last.  That said, there is something special about my walnut Strands - I love the color and the silhouette of the shoe.  With the medallion cap toe and brogues, they look much sleeker than other 5 last shoes.  With Nordstrom's generous return policy, I would buy the Strands and wear them around the house on carpet and see what you think.  Otherwise, my prediction is you are going to be kicking yourself in a few weeks for not picking them up for $220.

post #8237 of 48285
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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post

 

I have Delrays and am a huge 8 last fan and am not the biggest fan of the roundness of the 5 last.  That said, there is something special about my walnut Strands - I love the color and the silhouette of the shoe.  With the medallion cap toe and brogues, they look much sleeker than other 5 last shoes.  With Nordstrom's generous return policy, I would buy the Strands and wear them around the house on carpet and see what you think.  Otherwise, my prediction is you are going to be kicking yourself in a few weeks for not picking them up for $220.

 

Hmm, I think you might be right.  I love the 8 last (have 2 pairs of Delrays and a pair of Lasalles).  My 5 last shoes include a pair of Fairfaxes in 10D and the McAllisters in 9.5E.  I like the silhouette of the Fairfax a good bit, but it's also a D width (I should have a 9.5 E in them, but that's beside the point).  But the McAllisters are, as you put it, "rounder" and that seems to be representative of the 5 last.

 

But like you said, the Strands really do seem like a special shoe.  I don't think that I've ever looked at a picture of them (I've only seen them in person once) and thought they looked bad.  

post #8238 of 48285

Just went to make my purchase on Nordstrom's website only to find that the website is out of 9.5E!  I guess that's what I get for wavering so long.

 

I suppose I'll have to find an AE store and call for price matching now?  There are none anywhere close to me.

post #8239 of 48285

Hi everyone, I have a question on my newly bought Strands and I was hoping I could get some advice:

 

I bought a pair of Strands from the Nordstrom anniversary sale a couple weeks ago and they were extremely immaculate, except for some reason the left shoe was just a little bit looser than the other. I've pretty much chalked this up to just human error since,as we know, there is a lot of handcrafting that goes in to making these shoes. The thing is, the left shoe actually kinda bows out just a bit. The right shoe is a perfect snug fit.

 

I'm really picky, so I bought an extra pair from Nordstrom to see if the next pair would be better. They arrived today and unfortunately they are definitely not as immaculate.

 

a) There are some black marks (ranging from small blots to a 1cm streak) in various areas on both shoes that I was not able to wash/rub off with a cursory effort (perhaps they may eventually come off, but it's not guaranteed). I am just guessing these marks are from during the manufacturing process and the shoemaker just simply wasnt as careful

b) The leather undoubtedly feels less sturdy and just visually doesnt look as stunning as the first pair. In this second pair, you can kinda already see some wrinkling/creasing in the leather. 

c) HOWEVER, this second pair fits really nice and snug

 

So my question is: 

 

Which pair would you pick to keep?

Pair 1: completely immaculate looking shoes, very sturdy leather, but the left shoe is noticeably looser than the right shoe, and the left shoe also bows out just a bit (not major, like what ive seen from some pictures in this thread)

 

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Pair 2: practically perfect fitting shoes (both left and right), but the leather looks and feels noticeably less premium, and there are some minor blemishes.

 

 

Personally, I don't think i would let the blemishes in Pair 2 bother me too much, because let's face it, these shoes will receive their fair share of scuffs through their life. But I am wondering if I should be concerned about the leather quality and general construction quality of Pair 2 (because even certain areas of the construction just don't feel as solid to me as Pair 1)

 

I'm also wondering if a minor "bowing" out is bad and should be enough reason for me to return this pair. Personally I don't think the minor bowing out bothers me that much, because i know my pant leg is just going to cover it all the time anyways.

 

But what do you guys think?

 

My major apologies for this huge post! But any advice is very much appreciated!

post #8240 of 48285
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Originally Posted by BackInTheJox View Post

So I'm about to finally pull the trigger and order a pair of Strands from Nordstrom.  My only hesitation is that, although they fit fine, I'm not a huge fan of the overall shape of my McAllisters (which are shown below, in 9.5 E next to my 9.5 E Lasalles).  I prefer the 8 last to the 5 last, and although I realize they are completely different shoes, the 8 last seems much more streamlined and the shape is overall more aesthetically pleasing to me than the McAllister on the 5.  Is the Strand essentially the exact same shape in 3 dimensions as the McAllister?  






To be honest, the shape of the shoes look so similar to me that I just can't see how anybody would notice a difference, especially since you're not going to be wearing both shoes at the same time. Personally, if they fit well enough, then I wouldn't worry about it.
post #8241 of 48285
FifthAve welcome to Styleforum. Would you post photos of said shoes please?
post #8242 of 48285
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Originally Posted by BackInTheJox View Post

Just went to make my purchase on Nordstrom's website only to find that the website is out of 9.5E!  I guess that's what I get for wavering so long.

 

I suppose I'll have to find an AE store and call for price matching now?  There are none anywhere close to me.

If you have a Nordstrom near you, just go in store and they can order your size for you and have it shipped to your home free of charge! Even if the size is out of stock online, they will order it and the shoes will be shipped DIRECTLY from Allen Edmonds.

post #8243 of 48285
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Originally Posted by FifthAve View Post

Hi everyone, I have a question on my newly bought Strands and I was hoping I could get some advice:

 

I bought a pair of Strands from the Nordstrom anniversary sale a couple weeks ago and they were extremely immaculate, except for some reason the left shoe was just a little bit looser than the other. I've pretty much chalked this up to just human error since,as we know, there is a lot of handcrafting that goes in to making these shoes. The thing is, the left shoe actually kinda bows out just a bit. The right shoe is a perfect snug fit.

 

I'm really picky, so I bought an extra pair from Nordstrom to see if the next pair would be better. They arrived today and unfortunately they are definitely not as immaculate.

 

a) There are some black marks (ranging from small blots to a 1cm streak) in various areas on both shoes that I was not able to wash/rub off with a cursory effort (perhaps they may eventually come off, but it's not guaranteed). I am just guessing these marks are from during the manufacturing process and the shoemaker just simply wasnt as careful

b) The leather undoubtedly feels less sturdy and just visually doesnt look as stunning as the first pair. In this second pair, you can kinda already see some wrinkling/creasing in the leather. 

c) HOWEVER, this second pair fits really nice and snug

 

So my question is: 

 

Which pair would you pick to keep?

Pair 1: completely immaculate looking shoes, very sturdy leather, but the left shoe is noticeably looser than the right shoe, and the left shoe also bows out just a bit (not major, like what ive seen from some pictures in this thread)

 

vs

 

Pair 2: practically perfect fitting shoes (both left and right), but the leather looks and feels noticeably less premium, and there are some minor blemishes.

 

 

Personally, I don't think i would let the blemishes in Pair 2 bother me too much, because let's face it, these shoes will receive their fair share of scuffs through their life. But I am wondering if I should be concerned about the leather quality and general construction quality of Pair 2 (because even certain areas of the construction just don't feel as solid to me as Pair 1)

 

I'm also wondering if a minor "bowing" out is bad and should be enough reason for me to return this pair. Personally I don't think the minor bowing out bothers me that much, because i know my pant leg is just going to cover it all the time anyways.

 

But what do you guys think?

 

My major apologies for this huge post! But any advice is very much appreciated!

I actually had the same problem as you. I purchased the Strands and Park Avenues that are currently on sale. Didn't like what I saw so I ordered a second set to compare. Oddly enough, although they were the same size, my second set was longer/wider/looser than my first set. It makes me question AE's consistency. There were blemishes on both and questionable leather quality. However, I decided to go with the pairs that fit me well despite having more blemishes. I was considering going to Nordstrom to return a set and order another, but I swear they are going to ban me from their store if they ever see all this buying and returning from the same customer/account.

post #8244 of 48285
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Originally Posted by norite View Post

I actually had the same problem as you. I purchased the Strands and Park Avenues that are currently on sale. Didn't like what I saw so I ordered a second set to compare. Oddly enough, although they were the same size, my second set was longer/wider/looser than my first set. It makes me question AE's consistency. There were blemishes on both and questionable leather quality. However, I decided to go with the pairs that fit me well despite having more blemishes. I was considering going to Nordstrom to return a set and order another, but I swear they are going to ban me from their store if they ever see all this buying and returning from the same customer/account.

Same situation here!  1st pair of McTavish had issues.  2nd pair was received today and the wingtip is kind of cocked to the right & fits loose.  I called to order a 3rd pair today but was unable to because the 9E is not available to order.

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I bought two pairs of Park Avenues from Nordstrom, both the same size and color. The first pair fit perfectly. However, it had what look like to be some kind of hole as if the shoemaker didn't glue down this area completely. Not sure if you guys can really see it or not. But my concern is, if water hits that area and it actually is a hole, it may mess up the interior of the shoe. Do you guys recommend returning this pair?

 

The second pair I received was much too long/wide/loose even though it is the same size as the first pair.

post #8246 of 48285
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Originally Posted by itsmejson View Post

Same situation here!  1st pair of McTavish had issues.  2nd pair was received today and the wingtip is kind of cocked to the right & fits loose.  I called to order a 3rd pair today but was unable to because the 9E is not available to order.

Did you try going into a store and ordering it? I'm a big advocate of doing so because the SA gets commission, so they will do all they can in their power to get that sale. Although the strands in my size (7.5E) were out of stock, they placed an order for me. However, I have to wait a little while because it's backordered.

 

The more defects I see, the less hyped I am about my first pairs of AE.

post #8247 of 48285
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Originally Posted by Cold Iron View Post

 

For reference:Walnut shell Dalton's, Cascade, Cambridge in #8 shell:

 

 

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The Cascade surprised me. When I got them and opened the box I thought great, damn clown boots. I tried to give them to my oldest son and he said they were too long even though they he is a half size larger than me. I wore them around the house and realized they really did fit, and fit well. The first day I wore them to work the secretary said "Wow, those are some stylish SHOES". Which is the goal of dress boots, to look like shoes even though they are boots. She has never said anything about all the other shoes and boots I own, what the....? The lug soles are much more aggressive than any other AE shoe\boot I own with mini-lugs, ie: Black Hills, Bayfields in black and brown CXL. Yet they somehow pass as decent shoes for the most part. I only wear them in the winter during bad weather and had to clean a lot of dust off them to take this picture because they have sat on the floor of the closet for several months. I wear them with wool slacks and jacket during the winter with good effect, which surprised me. I purchased them more as a casual boot which I also use them for. Time for some more Saphir Reno and creme though, glad I dug them out.

 

I am struggling with my McTavish's. I wore the Elgin's today and like them a lot, although with khaki pants that was a bit too much brown going on LOL. But think this weekend I am going to give the McTavish a treatment or 2 with Neetsfoot oil to darken them. I like them with jeans but have a hard time going past that. Wore the other night when I was out and about.

 

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 You know the Cascade is really a nice looking boot in person. As far as the McTavish - this was the first pair of AE I purchased and kept. And like I wrote earlier I got more compliments on that shoe in 3 days than with all my Aldens over the years. I did use two coats of Neatsfoot the next day I did a light coat of Saphir - they have stayed that color since.

post #8248 of 48285
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Originally Posted by BackInTheJox View Post

Just went to make my purchase on Nordstrom's website only to find that the website is out of 9.5E!  I guess that's what I get for wavering so long.

 

I suppose I'll have to find an AE store and call for price matching now?  There are none anywhere close to me.

 

Call Nordstrom.  They will order you a pair and have it shipped to your home.  AE will price match as well.

post #8249 of 48285
Does anyone have any sizing advice for the Lubbock rough monkstrap shoe? My normal size on the majority of lasts is a 13D, but I have been known to go shorter and wider on a few models (12.5E on the 5, for example).

I have purchased and returned a 13D and a 12.5E now and cannot seem to get the fit just right. On the 13D, I had a great all-around fit for my foot and the toebox felt very slightly roomy, but very comfortable. The biggest problem was that I had some heel slippage, even when tiightened to the last hole.

On the 12.5E, the overall fit was pretty terrible. The toebox was tight and the footbed just felt very off for the shape of my foot. The fit as far as overall width and length was pretty good, but like I said, it just felt very off. My pinky toe was pretty snug.

Anyone have any ideas? Should I try a narrower 13? I'm aware that a lot of the rough collection shoes fit wider due to the leather not stretching as tightly around the last, as I'm having similar issues with the McTavish (I've only tried a 13D in the Tan Standard AE and Black Brooks Brothers version, so far). The Elgin fit well in a 13D.

If I had an AE store closer than 200 miles away from me, I would pay them a visit, but it's not really an option right now. I don't want to send back a third pair of the same shoe if I can avoid it.
post #8250 of 48285
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Originally Posted by fiestaplatypus View Post

Does anyone have any sizing advice for the Lubbock rough monkstrap shoe? My normal size on the majority of lasts is a 13D, but I have been known to go shorter and wider on a few models (12.5E on the 5, for example).
I have purchased and returned a 13D and a 12.5E now and cannot seem to get the fit just right. On the 13D, I had a great all-around fit for my foot and the toebox felt very slightly roomy, but very comfortable. The biggest problem was that I had some heel slippage, even when tiightened to the last hole.
On the 12.5E, the overall fit was pretty terrible. The toebox was tight and the footbed just felt very off for the shape of my foot. The fit as far as overall width and length was pretty good, but like I said, it just felt very off. My pinky toe was pretty snug.
Anyone have any ideas? Should I try a narrower 13? I'm aware that a lot of the rough collection shoes fit wider due to the leather not stretching as tightly around the last, as I'm having similar issues with the McTavish (I've only tried a 13D in the Tan Standard AE and Black Brooks Brothers version, so far). The Elgin fit well in a 13D.
If I had an AE store closer than 200 miles away from me, I would pay them a visit, but it's not really an option right now. I don't want to send back a third pair of the same shoe if I can avoid it.

 

Order a couple pairs and see which one fits best, then send the others back.  Ya, it will cost you a little more in shipping, and you'll have an additional $300-$600 held up for a week until it gets refunded, but its better than driving 200 miles, and its better than doing trial and error and dealing with the shipping back and forth until you find the right shoe.  At least you can enjoy the shoes the day you get the first shipment.

 

Also, ordering 2 or 3 at the same time and being able to try them all on will give you a better idea of what fits right, rather than a week later getting a new size and trying to remember if the fit is better or worse than the last.  If i wasn't an hour away from Boston, this is what I would do.  Worth the $20 or whatever it will cost to ship the shoes that don't fit back to AE.

 

Edit:  Call the store 200 miles away and talk to them about the sizing.  After my last experience with the Boston store, I will order everything through them and support them rather than going directly through AE headquarters.  Call them, explain, and ask them their advice, and I am sure they will send you a couple pairs. 

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