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post #7561 of 53251
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Originally Posted by Joker Man View Post

AE like all shoe companies sources its leather from all over whether Horween or from other locations around the world. It wouldn't make any sense or would there be any economic advantage to make part of a shoe in the DR and then ship the unfinished shoes to Wisconsin to be completed. Too much confusion keeping track of all the components and also the costs involved. Now personally I don't even think it matters where a product is made as long as it's made by the same standards because there are skilled craftsmen in every country, but these shoes are made in the US.


Did you read the letter from the president that someone posted? He indicated that DR is more than just a leather source; AE has an actual factory and employees there that assemble the uppers.

 

I do agree with you though, that as long as there is quality control, it really doesn't matter where a product is made.

post #7562 of 53251
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Originally Posted by wire View Post

I have two pair of AE, walnut Strand and brown burnished calf Fifth Avenue.

 

I'm looking to buy versatile loafers. What do you recommend?

 

I think the chili grain calf Randolph looks good.


I think the Randolph is a good looking shoe. I personally don't like the pebbled/textured look, so I would probably get them in merlot. I think this color and the smooth texture gives you a shoe that is a little more versatile, in that I think it goes better with pants and a blazer/sportcoat than the textured chili version.

 

Do you like the raised hand-stiched moc-toe look of the Randolph? If you want something more suble, you can take a look at the Westchester.

post #7563 of 53251
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Originally Posted by deveandepot1 View Post

No they dont.
Edit- The ones labeled made in USA have imported uppers.
Edit 2- The ones labeled made in DR are made in the DR.

I think some of the shoes are mislabeled though. I have a pair of Cambridges in Burgundy Shell, that indicate on the insole that they are made of imported leathers. I was under the impression that all AE Shell was Horween.
post #7564 of 53251
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Originally Posted by Winston S. View Post

I think some of the shoes are mislabeled though. I have a pair of Cambridges in Burgundy Shell, that indicate on the insole that they are made of imported leathers. I was under the impression that all AE Shell was Horween.

 

Shell comes from horse hides, the killing of horses in the US was illegal for several years thanks to groups like PETA. A few months ago that law was finally over turned. Americans have had a long love affair with horses while the rest of the world has long looked at the horse as a food source and not something that is the equivalent to a human being. Most raw horse hides that Horween gets in Chicago come from Canada and France. 

 

AE quality control or lack of, has been discussed a lot on here and other places over the last few years. Statistically if you purchase enough shoes you are going to see it eventually. I think in part it has been caused by rapid expansion due to higher demand and increased lines of shoes, which is what most of us want. The DR does do a lot of shoes and boots for the US now, for example Filson no longer makes their boots in the US but in the DR. My AE Yumas were made in the DR and had the worse dye job of any shoe or boot I have ever seen. But the Eastport's that were made there are perfect. I also have a pair of shoes (McAllister) that have the faint tiger strip on the toe of the left shoe, that was made in the US. And have been trying to get a pair of shell Bradley's that don't bow badly since December of last year. So far the AE customer service has always done a good job trying to make things right and that keeps me coming back. 

post #7565 of 53251
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Originally Posted by Cold Iron View Post

Most raw horse hides that Horween gets in Chicago come from Canada and France. 

Gotcha.
post #7566 of 53251

for me randolph is black or merlot.

more versatile, you can wear them in every situation and also with a pair of jeans during the week end.

if you choose tha walnut one you buy a great pair of shoes..but you can't wear them with a suit.

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what about my manchester? love them so much...

post #7568 of 53251
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Originally Posted by PhiPsi32 View Post

Yes, the difference in length between half sizes is about 1/5 of an inch.  If you're going from 9.5D to 10D the 10D has much more girth.  You may want to try a 10C.  What is your foot measurement?



Thanks phi, sorry I didn't see the post I was on vacation for the weekend.

I'm honestly not sure what my measurement's are, but I wear 10d in both park and fifth aves. The Kenilworth, even tho its the same last, is just too long for me. Do you think it makes sense to try a 9.5 e?
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I bought a pair of chili Waltons, 10D last year. Love the shoes but I've gone through 2 sets of those tiny thin laces they come with (http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/producti_SF710_1_40000000001_-1). Anyone have any recommendation for thicker laces which will still work with the shoes and give me a better grip w/o having to pull hard?

 

Also, in lieu of the upcoming Nordstrom sale, I'm looking into a pair of black Oxford PAs for wear with suit, jacket/tie events. I love the way the 10D Waltons feel, are the 10D PAs similar in comfort vis-a-vis shape, contour and sizing?

 

Thanks for your help.

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post #7570 of 53251
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Originally Posted by zero neck View Post


Thanks phi, sorry I didn't see the post I was on vacation for the weekend.
I'm honestly not sure what my measurement's are, but I wear 10d in both park and fifth aves. The Kenilworth, even tho its the same last, is just too long for me. Do you think it makes sense to try a 9.5 e?


Absolutely, the difference in the size really isn't that much.  It's the girth or volume of the shoe that tends to throw off the fit (in comparison to your foot shape).  The 9.5E is worth trying.  10C would be good too but I see the Kenilworth does not come in a 10C.  You would have to order it custom.  Otherwise, if the 10D fits well and moves with your foot I wouldn't worry about the length.

post #7571 of 53251
Earlier in the thread, someone mentioned that he preferred the full grain calf to the rough leather of the mctavish. This seems to suggest that the rough collection leathers are not full-grain. Does anyone know if this us the case?
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How does price matching work with AE?

Do I just call them and mention where I am seeing them discounted?
post #7573 of 53251
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Originally Posted by deveandepot1 View Post

How does price matching work with AE?
Do I just call them and mention where I am seeing them discounted?


Sounds like a good place to start.  Call a retail store, not the factory.

post #7574 of 53251
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Originally Posted by zero neck View Post


Thanks phi, sorry I didn't see the post I was on vacation for the weekend.
I'm honestly not sure what my measurement's are, but I wear 10d in both park and fifth aves. The Kenilworth, even tho its the same last, is just too long for me. Do you think it makes sense to try a 9.5 e?

No. If the shoe doesn't fell right to you then go on to another model.The Kenilworth is a more comfortale blutcher on the 5 last . The Park and 5th are high lacing Oxfords of  6(!) eyelets. You're just used to wearing these and don't know what a more comfortable blutcher feels like. There's no need for fugly looking laces on a shoe anyway. Slip ons always fit better and are more elegant looking and lighter.

AE needs to eliminate 1/2 their line and concentrate on their better designs.

How many silly looking wingtips and brogues do you need? 1 model is enough for this silly looking novelty stuff that was out of style in the 1920's.

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Out and about with the Sedona

 

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