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post #7531 of 52353
Yeah it is true.
post #7532 of 52353
I thought the Independence Collection was going to be 100% made in the USA, but I guess they are not.
post #7533 of 52353

Not all of the upper are made in DR.  It's not clear how many.  The lower price point shoes, yes.  My SA is opening a new AE store in August.  I will inquire and update with any info I acquire.

post #7534 of 52353

Quite a few people are reporting that they seem to be receiving factory seconds (or worse yet, "thirds") at their brick and mortar Nordstrom during this anniversary sale:

 

http://www.reddit.com/r/malefashionadvice/comments/wwdi2/caveat_emptor_latin_for_check_yo_strands/

 

Anyone here run into that?  From the sounds of it, people are noticing obvious problems with the stitching/leather/colors, and an absence of the white factory sticker inside the shoe indicating it is of first quality.  Additionally, people who have called to report their unhappiness with the quality of their shoes were told by salespeople to "wait a week" until the sale is over and then return them, which suggests that they know full well that they are pushing seconds right now (and if you return them now you may get another pair of seconds), but that once the sale is over they will go back to first quality shoes only.

post #7535 of 52353

That doesn't sound like Nordstrom.

post #7536 of 52353
Here is what the AE CEO said:
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Thanks for your feedback. We do indeed have duplicative capabilities at the beginning of the shoemaking process in Wisconsin and, since 2006, in the Dominican Republic. Both plants are 100% owned and managed closely by us, staffed by our employees. If you watch our YouTube Plant Tour video (available on our website home page), the part of the Goodyear welt process that's also done in the DR is the cutting of the upper leathers, sewing of those pieces together and "hanging" of the lining. The resulting work-in-process looks like a flattened baseball cap with a large hole in the top and no sewn seams around the brim or the bottom of the cap.

The lining and the unfinished upper are attached together and to the bottom of the shoe in the lasting and welting processes, which are all done in Wisconsin. The footbed (inside bottom) leather cutting and the welt taping for the sides and bottoms of the shoes are done 100% in Port Washington, as is the rest of the production process -- the shaping of the loose uppers in preparation for lasting, insertion of toeboxes and heel counters, lasting, attaching the footbed, welting, hot corking, sewing on the sole, nailing and gluing on the heel base, attaching the heel "toplift", trimming all the edges, wheeling, cutting, trimming and attaching the sock liner (when used), and all the stages of finishing. How the duplicated work on the uppers gets distributed between the two plants depends on order flows from week to week.

The increase in demand for our shoes has led us to hire more people in both plants on all functions, which is good for both local economies. We're proud to be building economic vitality in two places that need it in the Western Hemisphere, one right here in Wisconsin and one a few hundred miles off the shore of Florida. History buffs might see this as our micro version of the Monroe Doctrine or maybe a localized DR Marshall Plan.

This formula works for us and for our U.S. employment growth, which is where the majority of our new hires are. Keeping our prices lower than any other fully Goodyear welted shoe manufacturer is an important part of our AE value proposition. It also allows us to spread workload effectively between the two locations so that we keep our delivery times as short as possible, a couple of days in many instances. Delivery to major wholesale accounts with that kind of flexibility is a major competitive advantage versus the Asian shoe importers who send shoes by ocean vessel in containerloads. Keeping our prices under control keeps us accessible for more and more customers with family budgets.

Thanks for the question and the interest. I hope the hundreds (and growing) of people we have in our Port Washington facitilities will continue to have your support.
post #7537 of 52353
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Originally Posted by random-adam View Post


Truthfully, I've never seen burgundy shell in the flesh... but your description is exactly as I'd imagine it. I've settled on my next acquisition being either some kind of blucher or dress boot in burgundy shell. Let's see what AE throws down this fall and whether it comes in a sufficiently narrow size...

 

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Originally Posted by facet View Post


I stopped by the AE store while I was on vacation in Newport and checked out some of their offerings. The burgundy shell PA was on display there and I struck by its colour vs the calf burgundy PAs. The shell version imho really popped a lot more with the burgundy colour being a lot more pronounced compared to the calf. Great looking shoe.

 

Here's the Macneil in burgundy shell after a bit of clean up work. They needed it as they haven't seen so much as a brush in a couple of months. They see wear once a week and are coming up on six months old.

 

1000

 

 

1000

post #7538 of 52353
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Originally Posted by patrick_b View Post


Here's the Macneil in burgundy shell after a bit of clean up work. They needed it as they haven't seen so much as a brush in a couple of months. They see wear once a week and are coming up on six months old.





This look great patrick, my shell macneils and Kenilworths look nowhere near as good as your polishing!
post #7539 of 52353
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Originally Posted by PhiPsi32 View Post

That doesn't sound like Nordstrom.

 

 

I agree, and other people on that thread agree, which is why they're so irked.  

post #7540 of 52353
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Originally Posted by patrick_b View Post


Here's the Macneil in burgundy shell after a bit of clean up work. They needed it as they haven't seen so much as a brush in a couple of months. They see wear once a week and are coming up on six months old.





Nice shine on those.
post #7541 of 52353
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Originally Posted by BackInTheJox View Post

Quite a few people are reporting that they seem to be receiving factory seconds (or worse yet, "thirds") at their brick and mortar Nordstrom during this anniversary sale:

http://www.reddit.com/r/malefashionadvice/comments/wwdi2/caveat_emptor_latin_for_check_yo_strands/

Anyone here run into that?  From the sounds of it, people are noticing obvious problems with the stitching/leather/colors, and an absence of the white factory sticker inside the shoe indicating it is of first quality.  Additionally, people who have called to report their unhappiness with the quality of their shoes were told by salespeople to "wait a week" until the sale is over and then return them, which suggests that they know full well that they are pushing seconds right now (and if you return them now you may get another pair of seconds), but that once the sale is over they will go back to first quality shoes only.

This is disgusting if true.
post #7542 of 52353

patrick_b has some skills (which is an understatement).

post #7543 of 52353
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Originally Posted by patrick_b View Post

 

 

Here's the Macneil in burgundy shell after a bit of clean up work. They needed it as they haven't seen so much as a brush in a couple of months. They see wear once a week and are coming up on six months old.

 

1000

 

 

1000

oh my!

post #7544 of 52353
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Originally Posted by charliebrown2 View Post

I'm also interested in the mctavish question.

I ordered the elgin (similar to mctavish, last & waxy leather) in the same 5 last size as my 5A's.  Would like to know what to expect.

I bought the Elgin in a 10D, compared to my other 5-last shoes in 10.5D, and it fits me equally. The saleswoman at the Shoe Bank told me that the "rough collection" run a half-size big because the leather upper has to stretch over a bigger area due to the shoe construction. I'm sure somebody who understands what's going on could give a better explanation than me. smile.gif
post #7545 of 52353

After seeing those perhaps I should look into the Cambridges in burgundy

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