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post #7336 of 53344
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Originally Posted by RossPirelli View Post

Would like input from Styleforum members on this one.  I recently purchased a pair of AE Walnut Calf Strands.  Last week I got a chance to visit an AE factory outlet store.  Picked up a pair of Brown Brooks Brothers 5th Ave's for $169 and there were no defects.  I was looking to pick up a pair of Black Park Ave's during the Nordstrom Anny Sale for $220.  However, I noticed the Bruno Magli Maioco oxfords are on sale for $279.  I'm going to pull the trigger on one of the two.  I've trolled the forums as much as I can, but I get varying opinions on both.  Your thoughts and input would be greatly appreciated.  FYI, I work in K-12 public education as a business administrator.  My office setting is business casual; but for state, regional, and national meetings I'm dressed like a Wall Street Exec.   

Being in the AE thread, I'm sure the overwhelming vote will be AE. Personally, I think BM's leather uppers are not as good as AE. The construction is also a factor with AE being GYW and BM not (which affects sole thickness). Used to own BM years ago (when the shoes were better) and until recently had a decent collection of AE. I vote AE.
post #7337 of 53344
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Originally Posted by triumphman View Post

Hi all,
Hope someone can help me out. This will be my first AE purchase, and looking at a pair of Cliftons (8 last from what I have read on this forum) I have no experience w/ their last, and hope someone can chime in on sizing. I wear 7.5 in Alden Barrie/Trubalance. Should I buy a 7.5 or an 8 in this shoe?

I have at least a dozen pairs on Alden's Barrie Last. I have 3 models on AE's 8 Last. I take 9D in each. Hope this helps.
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I picked up a pair of the Brown Shell Strands in my exact size 9.5C from Shoebuy via Amazon for about $335, first quality. They arrived today, and they look pretty great!  Very excited. The best news is that I had credit through Amazon from returning some MyHabit shoes I ordered several months ago, so I paid about $160 to the front door. They arrived in an AE cardboard shipping box direct from AE!


I first took a damp paper towel and gave em a good wipe down, then brushed em for about 5 minutes. I then applied some AE cleaner conditioner with a small horsehair brush and brushed it in pretty good. I let that sit for a bit and then brushed em again and laced em up.

 

I ordered some neutral Saphir shell cordovan polish whatever. I will wear the new shoes a few times with some brushing in between to remove any film (forget what it's called), and then will try out the neutral shell polish (very light amount), and see what develops.

 

FYI, I can now say from experience with my seconds, black shell cambridges what I have read here and elsewhere, use a very small amount of shell polish. If you use more, like what you might use with AE polish on calfskin, then it becomes a big, clumpy, gooey mess.  I learned this a few weeks ago when I applied an excessive amount to one black cambridge and a minimal amount to the second shoe. The second shoes shines up real nice with minimal effort, whereas the gooey shoe took substantially more effort and didn't shine up as nice.

 

My new brown shell Strands!!!

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Out of the box.

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After the aforementioned brushing and conditioning. (Not saying they look amazing or anything, since I haven't polished them yet.)

 

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post #7339 of 53344
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Originally Posted by PK35216 View Post

I picked up a pair of the Brown Shell Strands in my exact size 9.5C from Shoebuy via Amazon for about $335, first quality. They arrived today, and they look pretty great!  Very excited. The best news is that I had credit through Amazon from returning some MyHabit shoes I ordered several months ago, so I paid about $160 to the front door. They arrived in an AE cardboard shipping box direct from AE!


I first took a damp paper towel and gave em a good wipe down, then brushed em for about 5 minutes. I then applied some AE cleaner conditioner with a small horsehair brush and brushed it in pretty good. I let that sit for a bit and then brushed em again and laced em up.

I ordered some neutral Saphir shell cordovan polish whatever. I will wear the new shoes a few times with some brushing in between to remove any film (forget what it's called), and then will try out the neutral shell polish (very light amount), and see what develops.

FYI, I can now say from experience with my seconds, black shell cambridges what I have read here and elsewhere, use a very small amount of shell polish. If you use more, like what you might use with AE polish on calfskin, then it becomes a big, clumpy, gooey mess.  I learned this a few weeks ago when I applied an excessive amount to one black cambridge and a minimal amount to the second shoe. The second shoes shines up real nice with minimal effort, whereas the gooey shoe took substantially more effort and didn't shine up as nice.

My new brown shell Strands!!!
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Out of the box.
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After the aforementioned brushing and conditioning. (Not saying they look amazing or anything, since I haven't polished them yet.)

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Nice shoe!! I also have it. IMO, the dark brown shell Strand is the best shoe AE makes.
post #7340 of 53344
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Originally Posted by PhiPsi32 View Post

If you have access to the shoes locally, then absolutely.  If you have an AE store, they will order and hold two or three sizes for you to try on in store. 

From your comments, the 11D is too tight over the instep and the 11E is too loose in the heel.  So you can see there how changing one width size can dramatically alter the fit of the shoe.  In terms of size equivalency, the 10.5E/11D/11.5C will be the most similar in fit (the primary difference being the length).  So if the 11D is just a bit tight, then the 11.5C will more closely retain the heel fit while still giving you some extra volume in the box.  At least it will give you a point of reference to the 11E.  Then you can choose between the two.

-Inserts to correct the fit can be problematic and should be avoided  when possible.  However, tongue pads can be very useful for taking up excess volume and tightening the heel.

-Stretching is also problematic as the degree of stretch is limited.  I have tried stretching at home and at the cobbler shop.  It works for some, but not for me.

-You can find a #5 last that fits.  It takes time and patience.  I must have tried eight different sizes before settling.  Even then, you should remember that calf fits a bit differently than shell cordovan and the waxy leathers such as those found on the "Rough" line.

Best of luck.


Wow thank you so much for the tips, looks like the 11.5C is definitely worth a shot. Also one last thing, will the PA and Fifth Ave fit IDENTICAL? Because the 11E I tried was a Fifth, the rest have been Parks
post #7341 of 53344
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Originally Posted by seven7seven View Post

Wow thank you so much for the tips, looks like the 11.5C is definitely worth a shot. Also one last thing, will the PA and Fifth Ave fit IDENTICAL? Because the 11E I tried was a Fifth, the rest have been Parks

The PA, Fifth Ave, and Strand, in my experience, fit very very similar. All, of course, are on the 5 last.
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+1, as long as they are all the same material (e.g. calf) they should have a similar fit.

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Originally Posted by PK35216 View Post

I picked up a pair of the Brown Shell Strands in my exact size 9.5C from Shoebuy via Amazon for about $335, first quality. They arrived today, and they look pretty great!  Very excited. The best news is that I had credit through Amazon from returning some MyHabit shoes I ordered several months ago, so I paid about $160 to the front door. They arrived in an AE cardboard shipping box direct from AE!


I first took a damp paper towel and gave em a good wipe down, then brushed em for about 5 minutes. I then applied some AE cleaner conditioner with a small horsehair brush and brushed it in pretty good. I let that sit for a bit and then brushed em again and laced em up.

 

I ordered some neutral Saphir shell cordovan polish whatever. I will wear the new shoes a few times with some brushing in between to remove any film (forget what it's called), and then will try out the neutral shell polish (very light amount), and see what develops.

 

FYI, I can now say from experience with my seconds, black shell cambridges what I have read here and elsewhere, use a very small amount of shell polish. If you use more, like what you might use with AE polish on calfskin, then it becomes a big, clumpy, gooey mess.  I learned this a few weeks ago when I applied an excessive amount to one black cambridge and a minimal amount to the second shoe. The second shoes shines up real nice with minimal effort, whereas the gooey shoe took substantially more effort and didn't shine up as nice.

 

My new brown shell Strands!!!

2012-07-17_19-59-29_269.jpg

 

Out of the box.

2012-07-17_19-59-55_862.jpg

 

After the aforementioned brushing and conditioning. (Not saying they look amazing or anything, since I haven't polished them yet.)

 

2012-07-17_22-08-28_207.jpg2012-07-17_22-08-40_87.jpg

 

Congrats - they are beautiful

post #7344 of 53344
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Originally Posted by PhiPsi32 View Post

 

If you have access to the shoes locally, then absolutely.  If you have an AE store, they will order and hold two or three sizes for you to try on in store. 

 

From your comments, the 11D is too tight over the instep and the 11E is too loose in the heel.  So you can see there how changing one width size can dramatically alter the fit of the shoe.  In terms of size equivalency, the 10.5E/11D/11.5C will be the most similar in fit (the primary difference being the length).  So if the 11D is just a bit tight, then the 11.5C will more closely retain the heel fit while still giving you some extra volume in the box.  At least it will give you a point of reference to the 11E.  Then you can choose between the two.

 

-Inserts to correct the fit can be problematic and should be avoided  when possible.  However, tongue pads can be very useful for taking up excess volume and tightening the heel.

 

-Stretching is also problematic as the degree of stretch is limited.  I have tried stretching at home and at the cobbler shop.  It works for some, but not for me.

 

-You can find a #5 last that fits.  It takes time and patience.  I must have tried eight different sizes before settling.  Even then, you should remember that calf fits a bit differently than shell cordovan and the waxy leathers such as those found on the "Rough" line.

 

Best of luck.

thanks for this info, I am having the exact same issue as seven7seven.

- I ordered a 9.5E in the park ave - width was good but the length was too long & heel was loose

- received a 9E and the length seems to be a tad too short but width is good & heel is good

- I plan to try a 9.5D tomorrow, would you recommend anything else?

post #7345 of 53344
Is the AE recrafting service worth not having cheaper work done by local cobblers?

http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/RecraftingView?storeId=1&langId=-1&catalogId=40000000001

I believe the standard service charge when I first got my strands was 100 dollars...now it's 125? Heel replacements for 50 dollars? Seems like most cobblers charge between 20-30 for that. Full heel and sole replacements are usually around 65-80 dollars as well compared to the 125 AE asks.

Going local seems like the much better option except you won't get the uppers refinished and you void the chance to get recrafting in the future if the sole is worked on. I'm assuming AE still allows recrafting if local cobblers do heel replacements? Thoughts and opinions?
post #7346 of 53344
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Originally Posted by BackInTheJox View Post

Just went to the AE website to buy some Elgins on sale, but unfortunately since they're on close out they only have like two sizes.
Damn. Missed the boat apparently.

 

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Originally Posted by fiestaplatypus View Post

So I called a local outlet store yesterday to exchange my brown Jefferson 2nd's for Brown Cordovan Strand 2nd's, while the $299 sale was still going on. Today, while looking around at the Amazon shoe sale, I picked up 1st quality Shell Cordovan Strands in Brown (via Shoebuy) for $335! Mostly odd sizes available (see below), but they had my somewhat normal 13D size. Not a bad deal for $35 more, especially if my 2nd's don't look so great when they come in.
If you're any of the following sizes and have interest, you may want to check the site out, immediately...
http://www.amazon.com/Allen-Edmonds-Strand-Shoes-Brown-Cordovan/dp/B0081A7XC4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1342556017&sr=8-1&keywords=allen+edmonds+strand+cordovan
6.5E
8B
9.5E
10B
12 AA
13D
14A
They also have the Elgin (through Amazon) for $175 today, using code: 12SUMMER

 

Looks like the code 12SUMMER is still valid today for Amazon. The Elgin is no longer even listed on the AE website. However most sizes still show up as in stock on Amazon. Certainly worth a try if your still interested in them.

post #7347 of 53344
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Originally Posted by acousticfoodie View Post

Is the AE recrafting service worth not having cheaper work done by local cobblers?
http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/RecraftingView?storeId=1&langId=-1&catalogId=40000000001
I believe the standard service charge when I first got my strands was 100 dollars...now it's 125? Heel replacements for 50 dollars? Seems like most cobblers charge between 20-30 for that. Full heel and sole replacements are usually around 65-80 dollars as well compared to the 125 AE asks.
Going local seems like the much better option except you won't get the uppers refinished and you void the chance to get recrafting in the future if the sole is worked on. I'm assuming AE still allows recrafting if local cobblers do heel replacements? Thoughts and opinions?

$125 is a bit too much.

People were buying pairs of new AE 2nds for $100 last month. PA, 5A, Strands,...
post #7348 of 53344
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Originally Posted by deveandepot1 View Post

$125 is a bit too much.
People were buying pairs of new AE 2nds for $100 last month. PA, 5A, Strands,...

AE is interesting because some can be had at the re-craft pricepoint. However, there are a couple of instances where AE recrafting can be helpful. First, if the shoe is a certain style that is not regularly sold. Second, if you don't have a trusted cobbler who will do the job correctly, sending them back to AE ensures proper re-sole, in addition to (and probably most importantly) having it done on the actual last of the shoe.

Shoes can be tricky sometimes and if there is a shoe that fits well, has a footbed that has molded, and leather that has a nice patina, then recrafting is definitely the way to go.
post #7349 of 53344
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Originally Posted by deveandepot1 View Post


$125 is a bit too much.
People were buying pairs of new AE 2nds for $100 last month. PA, 5A, Strands,...

$100 per pair for seconds? When was this and is the promotion still on?

post #7350 of 53344
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Originally Posted by mythage View Post

$100 per pair for seconds? When was this and is the promotion still on?

It was a couple months ago. It usually happen once or twice a year (not exactly sure) done by the factory. Promotion is not on anymore.
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