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Originally Posted by JezeC View Post
 

wow 70 pairs? 

 

how often to you polish leather shoes? you probably don't even need to polish considering your sizable collection. i typically polish after 15 wears per pair, and that may take you two years to get to that number, haha. 

 

Only about 10 of the pairs are dress calf, and I wouldn't wear any of them any more than a few times per year, so - not very often!

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Originally Posted by kpag View Post
 

Nice collection, I want to get a pair of McTavish soon. What is the fourth color? I thought they only came in black, tan and cognac?

After thinking about it for a while, I am pretty sure that the light colored pair on the far left is Natural Chromexcel.  The leather looks just like my pair of Clark Streets in Natural Chromexcel.  Maybe I have some kind of unique collectors item and I didn't even know it?

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Does anybody know whether it's possible to buy a few AE boxes? I lost a couple when it got crushed when I was transporting them to another location. 

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Originally Posted by Olifter View Post

Not on mine.
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Originally Posted by kentyman View Post

I wore my Walnut/Brown Sheltons for the first time in a while yesterday to see if I wanted to keep them, and I re-fell in love with them. They're really sharp. There are some creases on the vamp, but nothing extreme especially compared to other shoes. I will say that they fit a bit more narrow than my other 1-511 shoes; the V is more pronounced than on my Finches, and the same size Burgundy Shell Daltons I'm wearing today fit perfectly. That said, with a thinner socks and a little breaking in, they fit well.
Thanks guys. I tried on Dalton's and Long Branches and I'd say in the same size I had a little more room in those than my 5-65 last shoes. Sounds like sheltons would fit nicely. Walnut/brown sounds beautiful. Got any pics? I think the ones on the Shoebank are just brown/dark brown. The website seems terribly slow to not working tonight...

Edit: I take that back, they are walnut/brown on the main website. It finally loaded for me.
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Originally Posted by tradbrah View Post

I want to verify my sizing in a couple styles, but don't have an Allen Edmonds retail store close by.

Would you trust Nordstrom's to correctly size AE shoes? One of my concerns is that they do not have the availability of different widths that an AE retail location would have.
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Originally Posted by FatTuesday View Post
 

Nope.  Went there to get measured and the sales girl kicked the brannock toward me so I could use it.  She didn't even bend over.  Dedicated shoe store salespeople are marginally better.  The department store folks may work in the juniors dept one day, men's shoes the next and home goods the next.  God help you!

 

Alas, if only we knew someone with a connection to the MANAGER of a Nordstrom Shoe Department Store -- with decades of experience -- that could provide a professional fit and 6 month guarantee...

 

Warning: Blast from the past (Click to show)

 

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Originally Posted by David Copeland View Post

 

Whenever a return and exchange is requested with AE - ask for the name of the MANAGER to make sure he/she personally inspects the replacement before shipping to you.  If not, then you run the risk of non-accountability.

 

Another option is a refund, and buy the item from a local Nordstrom Department store where the inspection is available.  My last purchase at Nordstroms was a special order than came into the store so they could insure the quality before I invested the time.

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Originally Posted by David Copeland View Post

 

Each Nordstrom Department Store has a Manager of the shoe department . . . who typically has over 12 years experience.  With exception - Sales Associates have been known to remark policies to customers that are incorrect and very misleading. 

 

Work with the MANAGER and you will not go wrong.  I spoke to the headquarter Manager in Seattle, and I spoke to the Manager in Spokane . . . and they BOTH stated on-the-record . . . "If our store professionally sizes and fits you to Allen Edmond shoes . . . and you develop issues with fit, toes, blisters, anything . . . even if you have worn them for six months . . . just return them for a full refund or exchange for a better fit or style".

 

For any forum member who wishes to verify this with the managers I spoke to . . . send me a private message for their contact information.

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Originally Posted by David Copeland View Post

 

I have no affiliation with Nordstroms or Hangerproject or eBay or Amazon or NeedSupply or Sid Mashburn or . . . anything I have referred members to.

 

As a consumer, I look for deals to purchase for myself.  And if I am greatly satisfied with the end result of what I purchase, then I pass my experience along.

 

For now, the Norstrom Sale will continue to August and appears to be the best deal around.  And if anyone wishes to visit one of their department stores, I strongly recommend you only deal with the MANAGER of that department - because of some reports of other sales associates not providing a professional sizing and fit.  Managers seem to have at least 10 to 20 years experience.  It was one of these managers that I have worked with in recent months - and that I can refer members to contact directly -  - - primarily because he is one to be trusted and will offer sale prices on sizes and colors that the internet site are not showing.

 

Thanks for asking,

 

David

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Originally Posted by David Copeland View Post
 

That is my interpretation . . . and completely legal and morally ethical.

 

If the eBay versions are returnable, even if he has to pay shipping, the Nordstrom version at a discount would give him a professional sizing and fit.  Insist on seeing a MANAGER for the best service

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Originally Posted by David Copeland View Post

 

No problem whatsoever. 

 

Call the MANAGER at the local Nordstrom Shoe department.  Explain you were fitted improperly in December and that the shoes need to be replaced with the proper fit.  The manager can even order in another fit, but you need to see the manager in person so that he can determine exactly what your fit is.  They will also do a full refund - but with the same going on right now, you might be able to exchange the value of your receipt for another pair.

 

Thanks for the question,

 

David

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Originally Posted by David Copeland View Post
 

It looks like August 4th is the last sale day.

 

Before you go with the plan, I suggest you revisit the original eBay sale listing and look at the 'RETURN' policy.  Most eBay Sellers with good ratings will permit you to return the shoes for a full refund as long as you pay the shipping.  But read the their return policy carefully, and communicate your desire to return the shoes in writing by using the eBay email system to contact the seller.  If the seller asks why, simply tell him the truth that you are not satisfied with the purchase and you have decided to buy another pair of shoes from a different retailer.  No need to mention Nordstroms.

 

With your approved return, you can then contact the Nordstrom MANAGER for a professional fit and sizing.

 

David

 

PS:  Regarding what some other members read in your plan, I don't see any unethical issues about buying another pair from Nordstroms and returning the eBay pair of shoes to the eBay seller for a refund.  But some folks think you might have meant buying a pair from Nordstroms and then returning the eBay pair to Nordstroms (which would be morally unethical).  Nevertheless, some folks try to do that . . . and they get caught because seconds are marked in the shoes and cannot be returned as "firsts".

 

So in the end, my read of what you wrote is right on and would be what I would do - all above board and the ability to sleep at night!

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Originally Posted by David Copeland View Post

 

As said before, only work with the department manager - not a sales associate.

 

Managers can provide any size, any style, any color, plus a professional fit.  Anyone else is a risk.

 

If you wish to contact the manager I work with, send me a private message.

 

David

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Originally Posted by David Copeland View Post

 

None, unless they have the style you want along with several sizes.

 

I have seen more and more posts lately of folks buying styles and sizes unseen - without knowing what their professional fit is for a particular style - which spells out the "last" plus the length and width.

 

You might also call the Nordstrom's Department store across the river in NJ and speak personally only to the department manager.  He will offer to bring in styles and sizes from other stores and AE so that you can try them on.

 

All my best,

 

David

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Originally Posted by David Copeland View Post

 

Speak to a Manager at a full size AE store or at a Nordstrom Shoe Department Store and insist on a professional fit and sizing for the various styles and lasts that AE offers.  Take in your Christmas list of potential future purchases too.

 

AE website has a printable shoe size chart, and the AE and Nordstrom Managers can speak with you on the phone to help determine the best size and last if you choose only to order by mail.

 

Also, both stores offer the free return shipping to experiment with sizing.

 

And, if a store does not have the style and size to try on - ask the Manager to bring it in for you in advance of your visit.  If you cannot get a manager to do that - then private message me for a manager who will.

 

David

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Originally Posted by David Copeland View Post

 

Like most folks visiting the shoe department, you got nabbed by a sales associate and not the manager.  Had you called the store before visiting and spoke only to the manager, he/she would have said "If I don't have the size/style, then I will order them in from another store or AE so you can try them on."

 

That may have worked in the past, but the current sale of multiple styles, sizes, and colors is not fully available on their website.  But a personal email or phone call to a department manager will assure you of a full selection of everything being promoted.

 

David

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Originally Posted by David Copeland View Post

 

Once again, you chose to work with a sales associate and not the department manager.  If everything you reported is accurate, then the accuracy stops beneath the department manager.

 

Department Managers in multiple stores have personally stated they will refund or exchange any shoe they fit after six months of wear!

 

Department Managers will bring in other sizes, styles, and colors prior to your visit to make sure the fit is proper.

 

Department Managers may be busy at times, so make an appointment.

 

And yes, when I contacted the store a few months ago there was limited stock in styles and sizes and colors.  But that was very quickly resolved when the manager offered to bring in other inventory for my approximate size.

 

I purchase from Nordstrom because of the policy of returns after a sizing.  I purchase directly from AE as long as I know my size and when they price match or have sales.  Both are good companies.

 

If you need a contact, let me know.

 

David

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Originally Posted by David Copeland View Post

 

You need to visit a Manager at either an AE Store of a Nordstrom Department Store and have them professionally fit you for your AE size and last, based on the styles you have in mind.

 

If you get a Christmas List together for all of the styles you have an interest in, most store managers will bring in samples for you to try on after they have professionally fitted you.

 

Nordstroms is the only store which guarantees after they fit you that the shoe size and last will prevail comfortably after 6 months of wear - with a refund or exchange.

 

David

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Originally Posted by David Copeland View Post
 

A professional fit involves more than just what the Brannock device says.  For "sales associates" at many stores, that is all they rely on.  But insist on a quality store and a quality manager of the department who will take the time to go beyond the device, including arch, funny toes, and mis-matched biological pieces.

 

Also, I have read recently that some folks don't want to take the time to go to a store, or they feel the store may not have their styles and sizes in stock.

 

Here's my take:

 

The more AE shoes you own, they will last 25 or more years because of rotation and good care.  Given that most marriages last 20 months, why would anyone not make the effort in trying on shoes that will be a part of your life for a generation?

 

As for lack of sizes in stock, I suggest you make a Christmas list for the next 18 months (not the whole catalog).  And then make that store visit to get your size.  Then speak to the manager and ask that he/she bring in the missing sizes and colors for you to try on within a week or two - then make the second trip.

 

The Nordstrom manager I work with speaks on behalf of all Nordstroms department stores when he says "Give me your list, and I will either pull your size/color from another store - or I will order them in from AE for you to "try on".  He knows very well that if I get married to an AE pair of shoes, he will have me for a customer for a very long time.

 

All my best,

 

David

 

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And on the last day of the sale, I ordered .... Ta da ... A few pairs of socks! Including ones like George's here icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
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Originally Posted by Trader George View Post

Brown shell strands today. Same socks as yesterday, I know; I was in a rush and it was the first pair within reach.

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Originally Posted by reidrothchild View Post

I had to return the suede Strand because it was waaay narrower than the 5th Ave or the Kenilworth. The difference in fit was so significant, it is meaningless to even say the shoe is on the 5 last because that provides no meaningful point of reference.

 

My Brogue Suede Strand is also way narrower. I made the mistake of not returning them. Wore them the other day, but they're definitely not as comfortable as they should be. Do we think this is from the added sock liner, or?

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Wore my brogue strands yesterday and they fit similar enough to my other 65 lasts in same size. My issue is the 65 last in eee sizes is not that appealing shape wise.
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This rainy Fall is giving me lots of opportunity to wear the Kiowas. They are handling the wet usage well. (Pardon the robo-pose).

 

 

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Originally Posted by delmar View Post
 

After thinking about it for a while, I am pretty sure that the light colored pair on the far left is Natural Chromexcel.  The leather looks just like my pair of Clark Streets in Natural Chromexcel.  Maybe I have some kind of unique collectors item and I didn't even know it?

 

To my knowledge there was never a Chromexcel McTavish, and AE didn't even have a Natural Chromexcel offering back then. But you may be able to tell if it's Chromexcel by inspection (or even just scent).

 

I believe the one on the left was the discontinued Brown Distressed mentioned in the outdated ShoeCareReference.pdf, and the one next to it is the Natural Wax Infused still offered today. I believe the Brown on Amazon is the Brown Distressed, while the Dark Tan and Natural are the Natural Wax Infused.

 

Ideally I would've just linked to the Shoe Bank pictures, but the search functionality is currently down.

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Originally Posted by RichieP View Post

Thanks guys. I tried on Dalton's and Long Branches and I'd say in the same size I had a little more room in those than my 5-65 last shoes. Sounds like sheltons would fit nicely. Walnut/brown sounds beautiful. Got any pics? I think the ones on the Shoebank are just brown/dark brown. The website seems terribly slow to not working tonight...

Edit: I take that back, they are walnut/brown on the main website. It finally loaded for me.

 

That's weird; I'm an 8.5D/E in the 5-65 (aside from the McTavish which runs way big), but a 9D in the 1-511. As I said, my 9D Shelton is a tad narrow, so E pro'ly would've worked fine.

 

As for pics, I'd say this one I found online does them justice:

 

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