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So, my problem with toebox creasing.  I'll start with the good ones. Above are my Mctavishes in 12D.  Creasing at a minimum, small crease in leftfoot toe box. But I'm happy here.
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Chesters in 12D.  No toe box issues. Great shoe!  (I know-- who needs 2 pairs of black wingtips? Apparently I do.)  And no trees in them right now because I just took them off briefly to take this picture.

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MacNeils 12D.  Creasing like crazy.  Toebox on right foot collapsed at one point (Notice the light brown discoloration). Currently, the tips are stuffed with newspaper. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Bayfields 12D.  Very snug shoe, but lots of creasing.  Not sure what to do here.

All of them have trees when I'm not wearing them.  I try to polish them once every 2 weeks (The bayfields are definitely due for a polish today.)

Edit: let me add that the fit on all of them is good.  No heel slippage, no cramping of the toes.

My calf MacNeils are starting to crease like yours - the big lumpy crease. I wonder if it's just the way the shoe is constructed and/or the double sole? It's very stiff and sort of "overbuilt" near the front.
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Woodlore/Allen Edmonds trees for 12s.  Maybe I'm not jamming them into the tips good enough?

When you put the shoe tree in, does it stretch out the toe as if your foot was in the shoe?
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Some pics of both, please biggrin.gif


Here is the Jefferson smile.gif, UPS still has the Rutledge and Parkland

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When you put the shoe tree in, does it stretch out the toe as if your foot was in the shoe?


No, the trees can't quite go all the way into the shoe.  They sort of bottle neck at a certain point.  I'd love if they could go all the way into the tip.  Maybe I'm not putting them in right?  I'll experiment some more, but it almost seems like you need to have a tree that's custom built for your size and last to do a good job.

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Patrick has mentioned how good Saphir Renomat is for stripping and deep cleaning shoes. I already knew how good Renovateur is so ordered some Renomat to try starting with my AE Shelton's. They have a lot of miles on them and I'm on the second replacement set of heels. They are the older model which is Cobbler leather and they really were starting to look bad no matter what I did to them. Today I decided to strip them and see if I could start with a clean beginning. Because they are cobbler leather it can be a bit tricky and I was afraid to strip with acetone, they also scratch easily. Which is one of the reasons AE no longer uses it from what I read on a different thread here. I wasn't expecting much but to say I am pleased is an understatement. 

 

After Renomat then Renovateur and a little brushing. Raw Cobbler leather:

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Then a coat of AE wax polish:

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Had a lady friend over for dinner today and she saw the whole process from start to finish. When I was done she said wow they look like new shoes. And they do, really wish I had a "before" picture now after the fact. Thanks Patrick!

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No, the trees can't quite go all the way into the shoe.  They sort of bottle neck at a certain point.  I'd love if they could go all the way into the tip.  Maybe I'm not putting them in right?  I'll experiment some more, but it almost seems like you need to have a tree that's custom built for your size and last to do a good job.

For what it's worth, I wear one size smaller than you and, when I insert the shoe tree, it fills the toe of the shoe as if my foot was in it. Did you buy your trees all at the same time? I'm wondering if, perhaps, you were given a size that wasn't appropriate.
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When you put the shoe tree in, does it stretch out the toe as if your foot was in the shoe?


No, the trees can't quite go all the way into the shoe.  They sort of bottle neck at a certain point.  I'd love if they could go all the way into the tip.  Maybe I'm not putting them in right?  I'll experiment some more, but it almost seems like you need to have a tree that's custom built for your size and last to do a good job.


I know what you mean on 7 last shoes, the solid toe trees work really well on 5 last shoes for me, but not on the 7 last. On the 7 last, 1 last and 1 boot last I end up using split toe trees. I also went to using "epic" shoe trees from cedarville in a lot of them.

You may also be flexing the vamp while sitting? I've seen some people who do this.
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ejomby, thanks for posting pictures.  I see your problem.  I've had a few pairs of shoes where the leather "rolled" rather than creased, but I've never seen creasing on the tip like that. 

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On an unrelated note, AE has added a few MLB themed boat shoes to the custom shoe page.

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Here is the Jefferson smile.gif , UPS still has the Rutledge and Parkland
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Excellent looking shoes, and seeing as I am interested in the other 2 shoes you are getting, I am looking forward to picks and fit reviews.
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ejomby, thanks for posting pictures.  I see your problem.  I've had a few pairs of shoes where the leather "rolled" rather than creased, but I've never seen creasing on the tip like that. 


Rolled.  That's a good way to put it.

 

Here's the way I see it: the shoe can crease any way it wants to, as long as it doesn't touch the toebox.  Once it does that, as far as I'm concerned, the shoe looks bad.

 

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It's a style preference.  I've never had a dress shoe that didn't roll or crease.  As long as it's clean and shiny it doesn't bother me.

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This is a huge thread!

Lots of great information. Thank you all.

Ordered my first  pair of AE shoes last week - some black Park Avenues.  Thought I should have some classic formal shoes for the occassions that require it.  Should arrive to a local reseller for pickup this week.

I've had mostly Aldo shoes which look pretty good, fit well and (being cheaper) have rubber soles.  Still a good choice for iffy weather and I wont be horribly upset if salt or stupidity distroys them.

I've had my eyes on AE for a while and I'm already thinking walnut McAllisters for my second pair.

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I have ordered and am awaiting delivery of a pair of the new Norwich in brown cordovan in size 12E.  The AE website images of the shoes are just temporary and not yet representative of the actual shoes, but I figure they are going to look sweet so I bought them sight unseen.  When they come I'll post photos, but AE will probably have their own photos up by then.  

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Congrats on the purchases.  Wear them in good health.

 

Pictures would be welcome.

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