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post #38716 of 47086
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Natural McTavish w/ Gustin American 16'ers 

Nice.. love them both -- I have American 16'ers and Okayama Standard on the way very soon... then have to wait patiently for my Grey Silks.

post #38717 of 47086
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Unfortunately, AE customer service emailed me saying this is "with-in" their acceptable range of defect for "factory - seconds".

To those of you got almost perfect or small defects, consider yourself really lucky :(

 

If you are in states, they do issue you a prepaid label return, but not for canada. so I'm stuck with this ugly shoe in which I think a lot of people told me the mark may fade away long run... fingers crossed..

 

My first purchase with AE for brand new pair was also defect, they honored it given that it was brand new,

I don't think I will ever buy anything from AE online ... :\

Certainly looks fine for a pair of second quality shoes. I have a similar pair of Walnut Sanfords with some of the same streaking over the toe. I have gotten used to it, it adds a little bit of character, and you can't really notice from eye level.

It is tough buying seconds from AE here in Canada. Not only are you charged a ridiculous shipping fee, but you also have to pay a good amount of money to return the shoes. What I do is save up a couple pairs to return, and either drive them to an outlet if I'm passing through (I drive from Nova Scotia to Ontario once/twice a year, so can make a detour to the outlet in Maine - it is like going to heaven) or ship back a couple pairs at a time to lessen the shipping costs. Still tough to swallow though.

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Originally Posted by namgungh View Post
 

 

 

Unfortunately, AE customer service emailed me saying this is "with-in" their acceptable range of defect for "factory - seconds".

To those of you got almost perfect or small defects, consider yourself really lucky :(

 

If you are in states, they do issue you a prepaid label return, but not for canada. so I'm stuck with this ugly shoe in which I think a lot of people told me the mark may fade away long run... fingers crossed..

 

My first purchase with AE for brand new pair was also defect, they honored it given that it was brand new,

I don't think I will ever buy anything from AE online ... :\

I can certainly see this falling within the acceptable range for 2nds.  I would do my best to polish the striations out of he shoe.  I'm sorry that your experience purchasing online has been so unfavorable.  For what it's worth, I've ordered seven pairs online (5 of them seconds) and never had an issue other than fit.  I'd give them another shot.  Not that I'm persuasive in such matters.  My mother in law has foresworn Ford automobiles and all Kentucky restaurants on the basis of a single bad car in the early 70s and one bad meal in the 90s, and I haven't been able to shake her from her antipathies.

post #38719 of 47086
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Originally Posted by mogili222 View Post
 

Thank you for the response. 

 

Here is a picture of me wearing the leeds. The shoe fits fine, just a little snug like I mentioned earlier. Does the crease that forms when I bend my foot seem to be in the right place? 

 

Yes

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Originally Posted by WICaniac View Post
 

Yes

Wonderful.. Thank you.. I got the leeds in both black and burgundy.. should work great to wear to work.. 

post #38721 of 47086
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Originally Posted by namgungh View Post

hey all,

today I received my factory second, fifth avenue walnut,

as seen, there is a lining on the top captoe part, is this something expected from *factory second* shoes?

in person, the lining is much more visible and I just can't stand it... 

is this considered defect? 






I would get some high quality cream polish and try to work on that toe a bit. Get something with a lot of pigment in it like Saphir or Meltonian. I would try it with a walnut or cognac color first but if you have to I may would move to a little darker shade like medium brown. I really think you could cover that up. I'd keep those.
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Do you guys get nicks like this on the welt often?  I just got these first quality Suede Strands and I have this nick on one shoe.  I also have a similar nick on a pair of 2nds but those were 2nds so I didn't question it.  Is this normal?

 

 

 

 

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Is there a restocking fee if you return seconds to an outlet store? I haven't ordered seconds in at least 3-4 years and in reading through the thread I understand that return shipping is no longer free but I am not sure if there is any other fee for returns. I am considering ordering 2-3 different pairs and keeping the one that fits and looks the best while returning the others to the outlet about an hour away from me. Thanks
post #38724 of 47086
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Originally Posted by Dr. D View Post

Is there a restocking fee if you return seconds to an outlet store? I haven't ordered seconds in at least 3-4 years and in reading through the thread I understand that return shipping is no longer free but I am not sure if there is any other fee for returns. I am considering ordering 2-3 different pairs and keeping the one that fits and looks the best while returning the others to the outlet about an hour away from me. Thanks

 

$10 restocking fee for each pair.  Someone mentioned earlier today that if you ship them back yourself, they'll waive the restocking fee

post #38725 of 47086
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Originally Posted by EEWithoutStyle View Post
 

Do you guys get nicks like this on the welt often?  I just got these first quality Suede Strands and I have this nick on one shoe.  I also have a similar nick on a pair of 2nds but those were 2nds so I didn't question it.  Is this normal?

 

 

 

 

 

That's not a nick.  It is where the welt starts and stops on a 360 degree welted shoe.  The joint can be cleaner, but it often isn't.  I think it's within the realm of normal for a 360 degree welted shoe (especially at this price point). 

post #38726 of 47086
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Originally Posted by EEWithoutStyle View Post
 

Do you guys get nicks like this on the welt often?  I just got these first quality Suede Strands and I have this nick on one shoe.  I also have a similar nick on a pair of 2nds but those were 2nds so I didn't question it.  Is this normal?

 

 

 

 


Isn't that where the welt seam is?  Mine all have a notch in that same general area.  I think they put it on the inside near the arch so it isn't as noticeable.

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Originally Posted by MoneyWellSpent View Post
 

 

That's not a nick.  It is where the welt starts and stops on a 360 degree welted shoe.  The joint can be cleaner, but it often isn't.  I think it's within the realm of normal for a 360 degree welted shoe (especially at this price point). 

 

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Isn't that where the welt seam is?  Mine all have a notch in that same general area.  I think they put it on the inside near the arch so it isn't as noticeable.

 

Oh ok I didn't know that, learn something new everyday.

post #38728 of 47086
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Originally Posted by Dr. D View Post

Is there a restocking fee if you return seconds to an outlet store? I haven't ordered seconds in at least 3-4 years and in reading through the thread I understand that return shipping is no longer free but I am not sure if there is any other fee for returns. I am considering ordering 2-3 different pairs and keeping the one that fits and looks the best while returning the others to the outlet about an hour away from me. Thanks

Yes, they'll charge you a $10 restocking fee unless they messed up or the shoes aren't even seconds quality.  I figured I'll save a couple bucks and shipped a pair myself via the USPS--and paid something like $9.67 for my troubles.  I'd drive to the outlet under the circumstances, but I like going there and am always ready for an excuse.

post #38729 of 47086
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Originally Posted by mogili222 View Post
 

Thank you for the response. 

 

Here is a picture of me wearing the leeds. The shoe fits fine, just a little snug like I mentioned earlier. Does the crease that forms when I bend my foot seem to be in the right place? 

 

 

I tend to take a more neutral stance on the "is this crease ok" questions and simply say that if the shoe is the correct size (based on your measurements), if it is comfortable enough, and if the ball of your foot is properly locked into the ball of the shoe, then you shouldn't over analyze the creases themselves.  I think they look fine, and everyone's feet are different.  Infinitely different feet fitting into a finitely shaped shoe will have countless results with subtle nuances in creasing patterns.  I also think this article is something that everyone buying expensive shoes should read and remember: http://www.theshoesnobblog.com/2013/10/mythbuster-part-1-leather-creasing-means-something-is-wrong.html  I think it's a well worded article.

 

That's not to say that you can't decide that you don't like the way a particular last looks on your foot for these reasons.  I don't like the way the 5 last creases on my foot in my proper size.  I go up a size and down a width in the 5 last in order to get a more desirable crease, but only because changing sizes that way doesn't adversely effect comfort for me.  Don't sacrifice fit and comfort for aesthetics.  It's not worth it.  You can't say it isn't "normal" for shoes to crease a certain way if they fit properly.  I don't subscribe to the notion that creases can be normal and abnormal in a proper fitting shoe.  They simply are what they are.  If the shoe doesn't fit properly, that's a completely different issue, and creases can be indicative of an improper fit.  But that can't be seen from the picture. 


Edited by MoneyWellSpent - 2/13/14 at 6:32pm
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Ok, thinking I need some black shell for $299. Which is more practical/versatile: black leeds or black Randolph?

I don't own any loafers, so which do y'all generally prefer for comfort: Randolph or patriot?

There was a burgundy shell PA in my size, but I already have two burgundy shoes frown.gif
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