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post #36526 of 48285
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Originally Posted by halfnhalfnhalf View Post
 

 

I LOVE all three of those pairs.  Even if I wore each of them only once or twice a year, I would treasure them.

 

Polo, between your exotics, specimens like these, etc., you have one hell of a shoe collection.  Any chance you could post group pic(s) of all 50+?

I have older pics; nothing within the past six months or so, but enjoy:

 

AppleMark

Shell:

 

AppleMark

More shell:

AppleMark

 

This is probably 15 pairs or so ago:

 

AppleMark

 

AppleMark

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@chinngiskhaan regards to your question about the number and frequency of seconds, I have to raise the question regarding the competency and experience of those involved in AE's manufacturing process.

 

From my understanding alot of the common flaws from seconds and even firsts is that we see uneven pinking/stitching, crooked lasting and bulging. Bulging, I think has been discussed at great length, and the culprit seems to be AE's manufacturing process. Stitching, pinking and general crookedness is more of a user error from the shoe crafts(wo)men at AE in Port Washington or the Domican Republic.

 

Now I'm not sure if in the DR they do the pinking and stitching, but I do recall that the workers there do make the uppers which I'm assuming is also to cut the patterns. From what it seems like, that doesn't seem to be the majority of the flaws we see in AE shoes. For the most part, the clickers seem to be doing a fine job following the set patterns. I'd imagine this isn't where most flaws occur since it's like cutting around a stencil (to put it in very simple terms).

 

When the shoes are stiched, lasted and finished in PW, it seems like this is where there is the most room for error. This would mean that 1)  this job might be more difficult and subject to the skill and judgment of the crafts(wo)man, or 2) there are not enough workers to keep up with demand which leads to less time allowed per shoe and less attention to detail or 3) the skill level of the employees is not as good enough to consistently produce near perfect shoes.

 

My guess is a combination of all three, but one point I'd like to make that I think gets forgotten is that the ones making shoes at Vass, G&G and John Lobb are low volume and also very few and likely skilled craftspeople who have been doing it for years and maybe even as a family trade. My guess at AE is that alot of people are trained after being hired to work on the factory floor. I say this because I don't believe there is any way Port Washington has that many shoe makers who are experienced to keep up with the demand. I haven't visited the factory, but I have to imagine that not all the shoe makers are ones who've been doing it for 25 years or those brought up through apprenticeship.

 

I think AE is unique in that their employees likely are newer at the craft, more likely to have turnover, have less time per shoe than many of these other makers and thus could produce more flawed shoes per employee. To me, this is the nature of the business and the sacrifices AE has to make to meet the demand and the price point they wish to sell their shoes at.

 

This isn't a knock against AE, as I personally only own AE shoes. Not because I think they are the best out there, but I think they put out a pretty good product for the price, even at $345 (which I've never paid for). The others at this price range are either relatively new and untested (Paul Evans) or inconvenient due to lack of domestic presence (Meermin). I would eventually like to get some Carminas, Alden shells or C&Js but currently the value isn't there for me.

 

I think overall we're pretty critical of shoes on this thread and like they say, bad news travels faster and I'd say more pervasively than good news. For every one person here that posts flaws in their first quality shoes, there are probably many more shoes AE produces with no real issues. I would say that AE could do a better job with some of our special make ups and there seems to be a disproportionate number being sent back, but I think that making one off shoes in a different material than their stock catalog might be more difficult than we think.

 

This post went on alot longer than I originally planned and I rambled, but just my two cents on the whole AE flaws "issue". Also, I guess I started the whole debate a few days back about the acceptability of bowing with the post about my Delrays. Totally did not mean for that to happen....:stirpot:

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Originally Posted by Texas512 View Post

Thanks! This cedar is killing me! I've never had allergies / been allergic to anything I'm my life. I've only been in Austin for about a year and this is a first for me

 

Sorry it hit you so quickly. Allergy to "Mountain Cedar" (actually Ashe Juniper) is notorious for taking years to develop in some (myself included).

 

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Originally Posted by The Hunter View Post

Austin is killer for allergies. I grew up there and never had issues untill I moved back after college.

 

That sounds more normal. :)

post #36529 of 48285
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Originally Posted by polojock615 View Post
 

I know, right?  They're actually made by Woodlore and identical to AE shoe trees.  I have a few AE shoe trees, but that was before I learned better.  I've got another dozen or so pairs in the closet waiting for more shoes.


funny that's exactly what happened to me too.  first bought the factory seconds trees at about $16 per.  then found them at the rack for $13.  finally resorted to the JAB at $8 per. turns out they are all made by more or less the same company with the same quality .  wish i had joined this forum a little earlier...

post #36530 of 48285
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

Don't buy them. You may wear them twice a year, if that. At some point you will look in your closet and think: "what the hell was I thinking?" biggrin.gif

Yeah, yeah. Too late, I just kopped a pair frown.gif
post #36531 of 48285
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Originally Posted by doctorman View Post
 


funny that's exactly what happened to me too.  first bought the factory seconds trees at about $16 per.  then found them at the rack for $13.  finally resorted to the JAB at $8 per. turns out they are all made by more or less the same company with the same quality .  wish i had joined this forum a little earlier...

 

 

Rather new here myself, are they regularly $8 from JAB? I have the AE trees with my pair of park aves. Thanks

post #36532 of 48285
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Originally Posted by sekman View Post
 

 

Rather new here myself, are they regularly $8 from JAB? I have the AE trees with my pair of park aves. Thanks


i've seen three for $25 (with free shipping and no tax) offered twice in the last three months.

post #36533 of 48285
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Originally Posted by sekman View Post

Rather new here myself, are they regularly $8 from JAB? I have the AE trees with my pair of park aves. Thanks

Only when they have their 60%-70% or buy one, get two free sales. . .which is pretty much every other week!
post #36534 of 48285
Is anyone familiar with the Hampton?

It is a discontinued Wingtip with combination of calf and grain leather. I want to make sure that it is not too casual looking to be wearing with a suit.

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
post #36535 of 48285
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Originally Posted by namgungh View Post

Hi all,

with AE.com's measurement, I get 
- length: 8 right on
- width: W7 right on

I've tried Lasalle 8D and thought that
- length: perfect fit
- width: tight and starts hurting the pinky side of my feet longer I wear, I started feeling sore & pain.

I'm thinking of ordering *Parkway* size 8D, but based on the allenedmonds.com,
parkway runs wider than normal AE shoes where Lasalle runs either *true size* or *narrow*
Would you say I would feel comfortable in 8D ? or should I order 8E?

It is unfortunate that any local store in Toronto do not carry different width length. They only carry normal D.

Can any of you give me some feedback ?

Thanks,

Harry Rosen? Robert Jones menswear? the Bay? None of them carry different widths?
post #36536 of 48285
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Originally Posted by polojock615 View Post
 

I have older pics; nothing within the past six months or so, but enjoy:

 

AppleMark

Shell:

 

AppleMark

More shell:

AppleMark

 

This is probably 15 pairs or so ago:

 

AppleMark

 

AppleMark

Uuummm...polojock615?  DDAYYYUUMMMM!!!!  That is absolutely BONKERS, my friend. You are THE MAN. :worship2: You actually have a SHOERACK SKYSCRAPER!!! ...color me impressed.

post #36537 of 48285
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Originally Posted by NicNac View Post

Is anyone familiar with the Hampton?

It is a discontinued Wingtip with combination of calf and grain leather. I want to make sure that it is not too casual looking to be wearing with a suit.

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

I like the Hampton; because of the grain behind the wingtip, it looks a little more casual, but I would rock it with a suit in a heartbeat - although not my finest suit. Was gonna get it in brown, but wanted to get away from closed lacing/balmorals for a second to expand my options. At $159, which was what the ones I wanted cost at the time, it seems like a steal - especially if you are building a lineup. Do it! It's different, but dressy enough to fit in a lineup of dress shoes, IMO.

post #36538 of 48285
Is the Long Branch in grey a discontinued model or can the still be had?

Can anyone post some close up pics?
post #36539 of 48285
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Originally Posted by NicNac View Post

Is anyone familiar with the Hampton?

It is a discontinued Wingtip with combination of calf and grain leather. I want to make sure that it is not too casual looking to be wearing with a suit.

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

 

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Originally Posted by Indyoshi68 View Post
 

I like the Hampton; because of the grain behind the wingtip, it looks a little more casual, but I would rock it with a suit in a heartbeat - although not my finest suit. Was gonna get it in brown, but wanted to get away from closed lacing/balmorals for a second to expand my options. At $159, which was what the ones I wanted cost at the time, it seems like a steal - especially if you are building a lineup. Do it! It's different, but dressy enough to fit in a lineup of dress shoes, IMO.

 

 

I have the hampton in black and enjoy wearing them. Agree with above, a bit casual, but could work with a suit. They are solid and well made, and a good deal at closeout prices. I prefer other models over this, but at the price point it's hard to beat. Enjoy!

post #36540 of 48285
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Originally Posted by Indyoshi68 View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by NicNac View Post

Is anyone familiar with the Hampton?


It is a discontinued Wingtip with combination of calf and grain leather. I want to make sure that it is not too casual looking to be wearing with a suit.


Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks
I like the Hampton; because of the grain behind the wingtip, it looks a little more casual, but I would rock it with a suit in a heartbeat - although not my finest suit. Was gonna get it in brown, but wanted to get away from closed lacing/balmorals for a second to expand my options. At $159, which was what the ones I wanted cost at the time, it seems like a steal - especially if you are building a lineup. Do it! It's different, but dressy enough to fit in a lineup of dress shoes, IMO.

Thanks! I decided to order it in Brown. It was a way to fulfill my need for a brown shoe at a great price!

Can the grain leather portion of the shoe be polished and shined like the calf? Not sure how to care for a grained leather.

As always, all input is greatly appreciated!
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