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Originally Posted by peppercorn78 View Post

I paid $505 through Allison smile.gif

Maiden voyage, btw. Starting them out with some light airport, hotel wear.

But are they "cherry cordovan"???? haha. stirpot.gif J/K I imagine they were AE's normal burgundy. Not sure why FSC called them cherry....
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3 of 3...All present and accounted for, Sir! :slayer:

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Originally Posted by Indyoshi68 View Post
 

CHINNGISKHAAN... NOOOOOOO!!!!! YOU ONLY HAVE ONE PAIR OF AE?!?!? (caps for emphasis, pot being stirred...) I see you here all the time! Maaaannnnn, I never.:facepalm:  LOLOLOL

LOL

chill... I'm a student still, I have no need for loads of dress shoes... yet...;)... I have another pair on the way... and my plan is to buy around 2 pair a year until I get out of school in 2 years then I can buy them as I need/want them. I got my first pair of AE's for fathers day.

 

I'm here all the time because I love shoes and I want to learn more.

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Originally Posted by sekman View Post
 

Okay, lets dismiss this claim:

Is the number of seconds indicative of keen eyed quality control personnel or of sloppy workmanship?

 

And again lets think about numbers:

218 Models

90+ Size options

Multiple Colors per Model

 

Consider the numbers, seriously, there are tons of variations in a particular shoe, is it really that unconscionable that there are what seems to be a decent number of readily available seconds?

hold up there buddy. I didn't mean to start an argument... I'm just not a math whiz thats all. 

 

Also, it wasn't a claim... it was a simple inquiry. I am making no claims about AE at all except that the only pair of shoes I currently own from them are wonderful in every way. I just wanted to get people's opinions on the questions I asked, yours included.

 

Sorry if it seemed like I was refuting what you said, that was not my intention.

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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post


Don't buy them. You may wear them twice a year, if that. At some point you will look in your closet and think: "what the hell was I thinking?" biggrin.gif

I have white Neumoks.  Hardly ever wear them, but still fun to look at.AppleMark

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Originally Posted by sekman View Post
 

Okay, lets dismiss this claim:

Is the number of seconds indicative of keen eyed quality control personnel or of sloppy workmanship?

 

And again lets think about numbers:

218 Models

90+ Size options

Multiple Colors per Model

 

Consider the numbers, seriously, there are tons of variations in a particular shoe, is it really that unconscionable that there are what seems to be a decent number of readily available seconds?

I own four pairs of seconds and can only identify a flaw in one of them, which suggests tight quality control standards.  I have never seen a flawed pair of firsts when shopping for AEs.

 

Speaking of limited stock in 2nds... I missed the Black Friday blowout during which some people on this forum secured Long Branches for $99 because there was no stock in my 11E.  I stopped by the Shoe Bank yesterday to see if the situation had changed.  It had not, but I tried on a pair of 10.5EEEs that fit surprisingly well--just a little pressure along my left big toe.  As AE has no stock of 11E firsts, either, I can only guess whether they would fit better.

 

I remember someone posting here the precise increments/measurements of size and width increases but cannot relocate it.   Holding the 10.5EEE Long Branches sole-to-sole with my 11E PAs and Leeds, it's hard to discern a difference.  If I had purchased these at $99, I'm certain I'd be satisfied with the fit.  Knowledge that I missed this sale is somehow making the slight pressure more noticeable.  Any relevant experience on fits across these lasts to offer? 

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Originally Posted by chinngiskhaan View Post
 

LOL

chill... I'm a student still, I have no need for loads of dress shoes... yet...;)... I have another pair on the way... and my plan is to buy around 2 pair a year until I get out of school in 2 years then I can buy them as I need/want them. I got my first pair of AE's for fathers day.

 

I'm here all the time because I love shoes and I want to learn more.

Okay, ya big baby... Just ribbing you a bit (you had it coming, too :slapfight:). I don't want you to get labelled as a member who responds with 'heated emotion'!!! Ha!  

 

FWIW, I'm sure NOONE here NEEDS the amount of shoes some members fess up to having, including yours truly. So enjoy the journey! Consider the pot stirred...

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Originally Posted by Indyoshi68 View Post
 

Okay, ya big baby... Just ribbing you a bit (you had it coming, too :slapfight:). I don't want you to get labelled as a member who responds with 'heated emotion'!!! Ha!  

 

FWIW, I'm sure NOONE here NEEDS the amount of shoes some members fess up to having, including yours truly. So enjoy the journey! Consider the pot stirred...

Heated emotion???? I would NEVER stoop to those levels!:uhoh:... lol

 

Yes, the pot has been stirred, but luckily, people are back to posting pictures of their shoes... 

 

Also, if you stop and think about it, if I had dozens of pairs of shoes, don't you think I'd be posting pictures of them instead of "stirring the pot"?

 

I personally don't think there is anything wrong with heated emotion when warranted. However, most of the time the heated emotion comes from someone misunderstanding someone else's words.

 

Anyways, I'm glad to know there is at least one forum member that can take a joke!

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AE produces far more shoes than say EG or Alden. To put it in perspective, St.C produces around 1500 pairs per year, that number of shoes is probably sitting in the stockroom of one of the major NYC stores. I think that Allen Edmonds churns out as many shoes as they can, not overly concerning themselves with mistakes as the seconds market is so robust.
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Originally Posted by bespoken pa View Post

AE produces far more shoes than say EG or Alden. To put it in perspective, St.C produces around 1500 pairs per year, that number of shoes is probably sitting in the stockroom of one of the major NYC stores. I think that Allen Edmonds churns out as many shoes as they can, not overly concerning themselves with mistakes as the seconds market is so robust.

I've definitely considered that as a likely explanation. 

 

So do you think they don't take the time to properly train their craftsmen or are the second quality shoes just purely an inevitable result of the incredibly high amount of shoes they put out and the firsts to seconds ratio for AE is not much worse than that of say an Alden or EG?

 

Once again... just questions and thanks a bunch for the input!

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Originally Posted by polojock615 View Post
 
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post


Don't buy them. You may wear them twice a year, if that. At some point you will look in your closet and think: "what the hell was I thinking?" biggrin.gif

I have white Neumoks.  Hardly ever wear them, but still fun to look at.AppleMark

 

I LOVE all three of those pairs.  Even if I wore each of them only once or twice a year, I would treasure them.

 

Polo, between your exotics, specimens like these, etc., you have one hell of a shoe collection.  Any chance you could post group pic(s) of all 50+?

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Originally Posted by chinngiskhaan View Post

this forum needs some livening up  ...sly.gif Which brings me to my inquiry that I posted last Friday regarding the number of "second" quality shoes that AE produces. Why are there so many? Is it really that many or does this forum skew my perspective on the number of second quality shoes? Why are issues with stitching, pinking, and medallion alignment oftentimes not noticed by quality control and sent out as first quality shoes? Is it because those making the shoes aren't true professionally trained craftsmen? Is it because of the speed at which they are required to work?

Please understand, these questions are in no way a knock on Allen Edmonds. I do not have any sort of bone to pick with Allen Edmonds, the only pair of AE shoes I own has no quality issues whatsoever. I have ordered my second pair and am waiting for them to show up at my doorstep. I also know that AE is more than willing to work with you if your alleged first quality shoes have these issues, or even issues that are far less concerning. I'm just curious to hear what you all happen to know/think about the subject... stirpot.gif

Why would you ask any of this when you seemed to reply so matter-of-factly while that conversation happened the first time around?
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Originally Posted by polojock615 View Post
 

I have white Neumoks.  Hardly ever wear them, but still fun to look at.AppleMark


the pic cracks me up because i notice you have JAB shoe trees in your allen edmonds! presumably because you can get three of them for 25 bucks all the time.  i do the exact same thing! hah...

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Originally Posted by chinngiskhaan View Post

I've definitely considered that as a likely explanation. 

So do you think they don't take the time to properly train their craftsmen or are the second quality shoes just purely an inevitable result of the incredibly high amount of shoes they put out and the firsts to seconds ratio for AE is not much worse than that of say an Alden or EG?

Once again... just questions and thanks a bunch for the input!


IMO the seconds are an accepted trade off for the number of shoes they produce. I have been advised that EGs rejection rate is around 2%. EG uses much more handcrafting along the way. In addition their raw materials are much more expensive as such I am sure management frowns upon waste. Additionally I would bet EG discourages a seconds or subs market as it dilutes the brand. I was in CJ a couple of weeks ago and they were actually selling their subs in showroom which I found interesting. They had a few mto model rejects that were fairly unique.
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the pic cracks me up because i notice you have JAB shoe trees in your allen edmonds! presumably because you can get three of them for 25 bucks all the time.  i do the exact same thing! hah...

I know, right?  They're actually made by Woodlore and identical to AE shoe trees.  I have a few AE shoe trees, but that was before I learned better.  I've got another dozen or so pairs in the closet waiting for more shoes.

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