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post #36196 of 49523
Good news: finally heard back from Allison, looks like she's almost all caught up from vacation. She provided a shipping label immediately

Bad news: it sounds like I may need to wait for another pair to be made and sent out. I inquired specifically about just having the stitch fixed (the shoes were otherwise perfect), but got no response on that front. So I may get back a shoe that has more issues than the one I'm getting rid of.

So begins another 6 weeks of waiting for $600 shoes that haven't been worn yet.
post #36197 of 49523
anyone here remember what last the Austin wholecut was on? I might have the opportunity to pick up a pair
post #36198 of 49523
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Originally Posted by LeviMay View Post

Gentlemen, a quick question: Merlot vs Burgundy. Thoughts? Comparison pics?

 

My understanding is that, at least with AE's current offerings, Merlot is a color of calfskin while Burgundy is a color of shell cordovan. So you first want to decide whether you want calf or (the more expensive) shell, and after that the decision of which "wine" color has already been made for you.

post #36199 of 49523
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Originally Posted by Indyoshi68 View Post
 

 

MoneyWellSpent... It was a response to the comments of the OP (see juuuust above this... "...my BB Park Ave's FIT LIKE A GLOVE...and the Strands I got for Christmas FIT SUPER SUPER TIGHT."

 

What this made me realize was that the OP's shoe WITH Poron insole, in the same size and last, DID NOT fit as tightly as the Strand WITHOUT Poron insole...which was the impetus for my subsequent commentary on the inconsistencies I've found in my recent AE purchases.  What I did forget to add was that my PA and 5th Aves. were AE branded, without poron insoles.

 

No correction in responses/comments was attempted, or intended... Hopefully tampatravel got where I was going with my response, though.

 

I wasn't trying to be pretentious, just give my take on the post, from my experience...I take my time when I try to offer comments in the thread - the AE backlash can be quite vicious at times, though not recently. Are you with me now, MWS?  :fistbump: 

 

Oh... additionally, even if the shoes are both BB branded, both with poron insoles, the last is the same and the fit is different for OP. OK...now I think I've covered my six in all areas of my comment. 

 

There seems to be a lot of heated emotion behind your post, but that's fine.  For what it's worth, he did say that the BB Park Ave's fit tight (see his post), just not as tight as the Strand.  Also, for what it's worth, I would expect that (I assumed he was referring to the BB Strand, and may be wrong).

 

I'm not making any excuses for inconsistencies beyond what should be expected for different shoes made on the same last (i.e., different leathers, different amounts of stitching, differences in how many pieces of leather a shoe is made from, different insoles, different lacing styles, etc.).  If you have two pairs of Park Avenues with no difference between them, but each fits drastically different, there's no excuse.  It's an issue.  However, there are more variables to consider between shoes of very different styles than just the type of leather and the insole.  The Strand and McAllister are made of more pieces of leather and use significantly more stitching (which will change how they conform to the last, and how they stretch over time).

 

I didn't see anyone giving you vicious backlash, but I may have missed it.  If you read it into my post, I sure didn't mean it that way.  I maintain a practical standpoint on shoes, and don't get offended when people don't appreciate something about a particular brand, including AE.  It's not my company.


Edited by MoneyWellSpent - 1/7/14 at 11:28am
post #36200 of 49523
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Originally Posted by GooseG View Post

Good news: finally heard back from Allison, looks like she's almost all caught up from vacation. She provided a shipping label immediately

Bad news: it sounds like I may need to wait for another pair to be made and sent out. I inquired specifically about just having the stitch fixed (the shoes were otherwise perfect), but got no response on that front. So I may get back a shoe that has more issues than the one I'm getting rid of.

So begins another 6 weeks of waiting for $600 shoes that haven't been worn yet.

Good luck.

Just for the record, six weeks is an incredibly fast turnaround for a pair of MTO shoes. Not trying to come off like a jerk or anything, but I doubt you'll find any other manufacturer who can even come close to this. There are several folks on here who have waited several months for their MTO's from AE.
post #36201 of 49523
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Originally Posted by fiestaplatypus View Post

Good luck.

Just for the record, six weeks is an incredibly fast turnaround for a pair of MTO shoes. Not trying to come off like a jerk or anything, but I doubt you'll find any other manufacturer who can even come close to this. There are several folks on here who have waited several months for their MTO's from AE.

This isn't an MTO though, it's a stock model listed on the website. I understand your point though that at a certain threshold, everything is an MTO.
post #36202 of 49523
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Originally Posted by dieselman89 View Post

Anyone have suggestions for lacing the Dalton boots?

 

I just use Criss Cross Lacing, though as I always do with criss cross, I start the bottom as "straight across on the inside outside" of the bottom eyelets. Basically, like this:

 

post #36203 of 49523

First time poster and fairly new to AE shoes, but I wanted to see if others have had the same experience as me.  Recently I ordered a Bourbon Strand and Black McAllister from the seconds outlet.  The Strand fits great and the blemishes are easy to overlook for the price I paid.  The McAllisters, however, do not fit well at all.  I own two pairs of Strands, both in 8D and both fit like a glove.  The McAllisters, also in 8D, slip badly.  I had them send a second pair to see if it was a fluke, but they were even worse than the first.  Is this common for the McAllisters to fit differently than the Strands?  I know both are made on the 5 last so I assumed the fit would be consistent.  Very disappointing because I was looking forward to finally owning a pair of black shoes that I liked.

post #36204 of 49523
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Originally Posted by MoneyWellSpent View Post
 

 

There seems to be a lot of heated emotion behind your post, but that's fine.  For what it's worth, he did say that the BB Park Ave's fit tight (see his post), just not as tight as the Strand.  Also, for what it's worth, I would expect that (I assumed he was referring to the BB Strand, and may be wrong).

 

I'm not making any excuses for inconsistencies beyond what should be expected for different shoes made on the same last (i.e., different leathers, different amounts of stitching, differences in how many pieces of leather a shoe is made from, different insoles, different lacing styles, etc.).  If you have two pairs of Park Avenues with no difference between them, but each fits drastically different, there's no excuse.  It's an issue.  However, there are more variables to consider between shoes of very different styles than just the type of leather and the insole.  The Strand and McAllister are made of more pieces of leather and use significantly more stitching (which will change how they conform to the last).

 

I didn't see anyone giving you vicious backlash, but I may have missed it.  If you read it into my post, I sure didn't mean it that way.  I maintain a practical standpoint on shoes, and don't get offended when people don't appreciate something about a particular brand, including AE.  It's not my company.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Indyoshi68 View Post
 

 

MoneyWellSpent... It was a response to the comments of the OP (see juuuust above this... "...my BB Park Ave's FIT LIKE A GLOVE...and the Strands I got for Christmas FIT SUPER SUPER TIGHT.

 

What this made me realize was that the OP's shoe WITH Poron insole, in the same size and last, DID NOT fit as tightly as the Strand WITHOUT Poron insole...which was the impetus for my subsequent commentary on the inconsistencies I've found in my recent AE purchases.  What I did forget to add was that my PA and 5th Aves. were AE branded, without poron insoles.

 

No correction in responses/comments was attempted, or intended... Hopefully tampatravel got where I was going with my response, though.  

 

I wasn't trying to be pretentious, just give my take on the post, from my experience...I take my time when I try to offer comments in the thread - the AE backlash can be quite vicious at times, though not recently. Are you with me now, MWS?  :fistbump: 

 

Oh... additionally, even if the shoes are both BB branded, both with poron insoles, the last is the same and the fit is different for OP. OK...now I think I've covered my six in all areas of my comment. 


...unfortunately you've both confused me so much, I've gone back to wearing these Walnut Shell Kenneth Cole shoes....

 

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m313/elisson1/Miscellaneous/DaddyShoes.jpg

 

Just kidding guys... I appreciate all the info and discussion. I just thought I was a weirdo for needing a different size in the exact same last.

post #36205 of 49523
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Originally Posted by dieselman89 View Post

Anyone have suggestions for lacing the Dalton boots?

 

I agree with kentyman. For this boot, straight bar is really awkward to tighten, and straight European looks messy. Display shoe lacing, maybe?

post #36206 of 49523
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Originally Posted by BWV988 View Post

 

I agree with kentyman. For this boot, straight bar is really awkward to tighten, and straight European looks messy. Display shoe lacing, maybe?

 

Display Shoe Lacing looks just as good (maybe a tad better since it's always over the top), but it's harder to tighten and having the laces come in the top eyelets makes typing pretty awkward. But again, it does look good:

 

post #36207 of 49523
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Originally Posted by MoneyWellSpent View Post
 

 

There seems to be a lot of heated emotion behind your post, but that's fine.  For what it's worth, he did say that the BB Park Ave's fit tight (see his post), just not as tight as the Strand.  Also, for what it's worth, I would expect that (I assumed he was referring to the BB Strand, and may be wrong).

 

I'm not making any excuses for inconsistencies beyond what should be expected for different shoes made on the same last (i.e., different leathers, different amounts of stitching, differences in how many pieces of leather a shoe is made from, different insoles, different lacing styles, etc.).  If you have two pairs of Park Avenues with no difference between them, but each fits drastically different, there's no excuse.  It's an issue.  However, there are more variables to consider between shoes of very different styles than just the type of leather and the insole.  The Strand and McAllister are made of more pieces of leather and use significantly more stitching (which will change how they conform to the last, and how they stretch over time).

 

I didn't see anyone giving you vicious backlash, but I may have missed it.  If you read it into my post, I sure didn't mean it that way.  I maintain a practical standpoint on shoes, and don't get offended when people don't appreciate something about a particular brand, including AE.  It's not my company.


yeah... I certainly noticed that when I read it as well. MWS has NEVER been anything but civil in his comments on this thread that I am aware of, nor has he ever gone after someone for having anything negative to say about Allen Edmonds or any of their shoes.

 

Of course, it's possible that no heated emotion was intended in indyoshi68's post either, and I've misinterpreted it.

post #36208 of 49523
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Originally Posted by rc121 View Post

anyone here remember what last the Austin wholecut was on? I might have the opportunity to pick up a pair

 

Don't know, but perhaps a back catalog might provide a clue (if you've never browsed through them they're fascinating in their own right):

 

http://issuu.com/allenedmonds

post #36209 of 49523
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Originally Posted by GooseG View Post

Good news: finally heard back from Allison, looks like she's almost all caught up from vacation. She provided a shipping label immediately

Bad news: it sounds like I may need to wait for another pair to be made and sent out. I inquired specifically about just having the stitch fixed (the shoes were otherwise perfect), but got no response on that front. So I may get back a shoe that has more issues than the one I'm getting rid of.

So begins another 6 weeks of waiting for $600 shoes that haven't been worn yet.

I feel your pain. Paid $570 for some webgems in late Sept and had to send them back. As of yesterday, I'm still 2 weeks away as the first remake was rejected by their QC. So I've been waiting well over 3 months to wear my shoes as well. Will just make them even better when they finally arrive!
post #36210 of 49523
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Originally Posted by Dillardiv View Post

I feel your pain. Paid $570 for some webgems in late Sept and had to send them back. As of yesterday, I'm still 2 weeks away as the first remake was rejected by their QC. So I've been waiting well over 3 months to wear my shoes as well. Will just make them even better when they finally arrive!

That sucks, but I do trust them. A frankly, I won't be really wanting to wear them until about April. Maryland has some weather that's truly on crack.
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