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Originally Posted by halfnhalfnhalf View Post

All kidding aside, to me putting flat laces on Daltons brings the following issue into stark relief:  that sadly AE doesn't stock a true work boot (one that would compete with the Red Wing GT, Wolverine 1000 Mile, Chippewa Service/Homestead, etc.).  The Bayfield, Long Branch, Eagle County, and Portland all dance around it, but you have to go the custom route to get something that really approaches what I would consider to be a work boot - cap- or round-toe, no perfing or brogueing, lug sole, and the like.  (The Promontory Point might come closest, but with the Dainite sole and no speed hooks, it's still not quite rugged enough for me, and AE doesn't seem to be positioning it as an alternative to the ones I mentioned above.)  Flat laces on work boots are definitely the way to go, but IMO on a Dalton it looks like you're trying to turn them into something they're really not.

Just my $.02.

I dunno about that. I believe my straight tip boots are inherently dressier than the Dalton and just look "right" with flat laces.


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Albeit that the Alden laces are narrower and sleeker and give it a dressier look, befitting those cap toes.

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Originally Posted by halfnhalfnhalf View Post
 

 

All kidding aside, to me putting flat laces on Daltons brings the following issue into stark relief:  that sadly AE doesn't stock a true work boot (one that would compete with the Red Wing GT, Wolverine 1000 Mile, Chippewa Service/Homestead, etc.).  The Bayfield, Long Branch, Eagle County, and Portland all dance around it, but you have to go the custom route to get something that really approaches what I would consider to be a work boot - cap- or round-toe, no perfing or brogueing, lug sole, and the like.  (The Promontory Point might come closest, but with the Dainite sole and no speed hooks, it's still not quite rugged enough for me, and AE doesn't seem to be positioning it as an alternative to the ones I mentioned above.)  Flat laces on work boots are definitely the way to go, but IMO on a Dalton it looks like you're trying to turn them into something they're really not.

 

Just my $.02.

 

When the flat black laces arrive I will post pics with them in my Bayfield, they are going to loo amazing I think. I also now wish the Dalton had speed hooks because the flat laces hold tighter and make getting them on/off a bit of a pain haha

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Originally Posted by tifosi View Post

I dunno about that. I believe my straight tip boots are inherently dressier than the Dalton and just look "right" with flat laces.

To be fair, IMO, regardless of laces, your straight tip boots are inherently dressier than the Daltons, because they're cap toes. The flat laces you have on your straight tips also look narrower than the ones on the Daltons. I think your straight tips would look even dressier with narrow round laces.
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Originally Posted by halfnhalfnhalf View Post

All kidding aside, to me putting flat laces on Daltons brings the following issue into stark relief:  that sadly AE doesn't stock a true work boot (one that would compete with the Red Wing GT, Wolverine 1000 Mile, Chippewa Service/Homestead, etc.).  The Bayfield, Long Branch, Eagle County, and Portland all dance around it, but you have to go the custom route to get something that really approaches what I would consider to be a work boot - cap- or round-toe, no perfing or brogueing, lug sole, and the like.  (The Promontory Point might come closest, but with the Dainite sole and no speed hooks, it's still not quite rugged enough for me, and AE doesn't seem to be positioning it as an alternative to the ones I mentioned above.)  Flat laces on work boots are definitely the way to go, but IMO on a Dalton it looks like you're trying to turn them into something they're really not.

Just my $.02.

I was at the Allen Edmonds store in Kansas City a few weeks ago and the sales associate told me that the Promintory Point boot was delayed for a few months because AE and Wolverine had a "legal disagreement" about the Promintory Point.... apparently Wolverine thought it was too close to the 1000 Mile boot (last and all) and involved legal folk. He said it had to be delayed while AE made changes to the Promintory. I found this to be quite believable since the initial website pictures of the Promintory look quite similar to 1000 Mile boots... but the final shipping product was changed to have a rubber sole and much sleaker profile. It was so differnet from the initial photos that I was diappointed... I wanted something more work-bootish...
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I dunno about that. I believe my straight tip boots are inherently dressier than the Dalton and just look "right" with flat laces.


 

What color is that?:slayer:

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Originally Posted by halfnhalfnhalf View Post

All kidding aside, to me putting flat laces on Daltons brings the following issue into stark relief:  that sadly AE doesn't stock a true work boot (one that would compete with the Red Wing GT, Wolverine 1000 Mile, Chippewa Service/Homestead, etc.).  The Bayfield, Long Branch, Eagle County, and Portland all dance around it, but you have to go the custom route to get something that really approaches what I would consider to be a work boot - cap- or round-toe, no perfing or brogueing, lug sole, and the like.  (The Promontory Point might come closest, but with the Dainite sole and no speed hooks, it's still not quite rugged enough for me, and AE doesn't seem to be positioning it as an alternative to the ones I mentioned above.)  Flat laces on work boots are definitely the way to go, but IMO on a Dalton it looks like you're trying to turn them into something they're really not.

Just my $.02.

I was at the Allen Edmonds store in Kansas City a few weeks ago and the sales associate told me that the Promintory Point boot was delayed for a few months because AE and Wolverine had a "legal disagreement" about the Promintory Point.... apparently Wolverine thought it was too close to the 1000 Mile boot (last and all) and involved legal folk. He said it had to be delayed while AE made changes to the Promintory. I found this to be quite believable since the initial website pictures of the Promintory look quite similar to 1000 Mile boots... but the final shipping product was changed to have a rubber sole and much sleaker profile. It was so differnet from the initial photos that I was diappointed... I wanted something more work-bootish...

 

That is very interesting and very enlightening - thanks for sharing.

 

Even though the PP isn't exactly what I'm looking for, I do think it's a nice boot, and if/when they go on sale I might take a flyer on a pair.  I recently tried on literally 15 pairs of RWs, 1000Ks, and Chippewas in various shapes and sizes, and was disappointed to realize that none of them really did it for me.  I'll also be checking out Alden's Indy boot when I'm in San Francisco next week, but I'm really not a fan of the moc toe.  If all else fails, I do still have the option of the "Allison special" Eagle County MTO/custom - but I'm not sure I'm prepared to wait two or three months for them as seems to be the norm these days.

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Hey guys, so my 8.5E "trial size" Park Aves came in today. Trying them on, they appear to be the correct length since the balls of my feet match up with the sole.

However, the vamp had no gap once laced and there was a little "slop" around the top of the shoe.

Do you think 8.5D is the way to go then? Should allow for the footbed to give a little.
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Originally Posted by GooseG View Post

Hey guys, so my 8.5E "trial size" Park Aves came in today. Trying them on, they appear to be the correct length since the balls of my feet match up with the sole.

However, the vamp had no gap once laced and there was a little "slop" around the top of the shoe.

Do you think 8.5D is the way to go then? Should allow for the footbed to give a little.

I have a feeling that 'no gap' may turn into an overlap over time.
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Used some Reno and AE cream polish to give my new to me Brook Brothers Park Aves some love. I really like the rich dark brown color of these, plus with the V tread soles they are going to get a lot of milage. Thanks to mythage for the smooth transaction, shoes are in great condition apart from some creasing on the right toe box and some uneven toe burnishing that the reno helped a lot with. Very happy with them!

 

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I have a feeling that 'no gap' may turn into an overlap over time.
Agree.
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I have a feeling that 'no gap' may turn into an overlap over time.

 

I think that's when you send them in to the cobbler for the addition of a velcro strap:

 

Velcro Monkstrap.jpg

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Originally Posted by LEgoiste View Post

So, my regular shoes size is 9 1/2, but my feet are wide/thick on the top. I ordered a pair of Strands on Amazon last month, size 9 EEE, and it was too small and tight for my feet. Then, I ordered another pair directly from AE, size 9.5 E -- it fits perfectly, except for the top part...




That's as close as the "V" meet on the top.

So, my question is: Should I go with 9.5 EEE or go with a different last (if so, which one would you recommend)?

Thanks in advance.
That's hilarious but I feel you pain as my foot is very similar. I recommend trying a different last and style. Since you can't lace them up you absolutely have to stick with the derby/blucher style. Avoid the balmoral/oxfords like the plague. You still may need wide sizing but a different style should alleviate the pressure on the top of the foot, good luck.
Edited by pbmonk - 12/18/13 at 1:52pm
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