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post #33646 of 47006
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post

Is that bowing on the right shoe?

Not when they're on. It has a reinforced top line with the brogueing so I'm not worried about that.
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Do AE cordovan shoes fit tighter in the same size vs calf?

 

I am looking at getting a pair of cordovan Strands but just want to be sure I should buy the same size as my McAllisters

post #33648 of 47006
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Originally Posted by Burzan View Post
 

Do AE cordovan shoes fit tighter in the same size vs calf?

 

I am looking at getting a pair of cordovan Strands but just want to be sure I should buy the same size as my McAllisters

 

I find the cordovan version to be either slightly looser or the same.  Good luck!  

post #33649 of 47006
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Originally Posted by bucksfan View Post

I find the cordovan version to be either slightly looser or the same.  Good luck!  

Agreed
post #33650 of 47006
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Originally Posted by deeselcyde View Post
 

Is this normal for a pair AE's after about 25-30 uses?

 

Defect?

 

 

Normal or not, these are going back to Nordstrom's today.

 

 

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Originally Posted by cincikid View Post
 

The soles look very abused to me. This could pretty much only happen if you wear them in the rain.

 

 

Leather soles will wear out quicker in wet environments, but that doesn't preclude them from being worn in the rain.  The sole will wear quicker because of the soft wet leather.  You should be able to wear shoes a good bit in the rain before the soles wear out, unless you are walking very long distances on wet concrete.  Even if he has been wearing them in the rain, what I see in those photos doesn't necessarily explain what's going on.  Soles are lock stitched on, which means the threads are looped together in the stitch hole so that the threads don't separate even after the bottom is abraded by wear:

 

 

The depth of the loop or "lock" can be adjusted and is typically set to be 2/3 or so up into the hole from the bottom, so that the soles don't separate even when the part of the thread that is exposed to the ground gets worn away.  Additionally, the exposed part of the thread is provided a little bit of protection by cutting a groove in the sole for the stitches to nest in.  Also, the soles are cemented on before they are stitched, which can help keep things attached as well.

 

In his photos above, the stitch groove is still present, which means the stitches have worn away and separated before the lock stitch should have been compromised.  This is unusual, and would be very frustrating.  In other words, the "theory" behind stitched soles has failed in this instance.  Does that mean that AE or Nordstrom has to do something about it?  Not necessarily, since it is pretty much impossible to prove that they have only been worn a few times, and that they weren't abused (like plucking the stitches out from the top).  It almost looks like the thread has been pulled, in a similar way that you can pull a thread on an article of clothing, which can start a domino effect of unraveling.  However, that's impossible with a lock stitch.  I'm not saying that the OP has done this.  I'm simply saying that this is unusual.  I won't be surprised if they take the shoes back or repair them at no cost, since both companies are known for stellar customer service.  If it has been a completely natural occurrence, I would personally classify it as a defect, and keep my fingers crossed that they'll fix it or exchange it.

 

Don't expect this to happen to your shoes simply from wearing them in the rain though.

post #33651 of 47006
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Originally Posted by MoneyWellSpent View Post
 

 

 

 

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Leather soles will wear out quicker in wet environments, but that doesn't preclude them from being worn in the rain.  The sole will wear quicker because of the soft wet leather.  You should be able to wear shoes a good bit in the rain before the soles wear out, unless you are walking very long distances on wet concrete.  Even if he has been wearing them in the rain, what I see in those photos doesn't necessarily explain what's going on.  Soles are lock stitched on, which means the threads are looped together in the stitch hole so that the threads don't separate even after the bottom is abraded by wear:

 

 

The depth of the loop or "lock" can be adjusted and is typically set to be 2/3 or so up into the hole from the bottom, so that the soles don't separate even when the part of the thread that is exposed to the ground gets worn away.  Additionally, the exposed part of the thread is provided a little bit of protection by cutting a groove in the sole for the stitches to nest in.  Also, the soles are cemented on before they are stitched, which can help keep things attached as well.

 

In his photos above, the stitch groove is still present, which means the stitches have worn away and separated before the lock stitch should have been compromised.  This is unusual, and would be very frustrating.  In other words, the "theory" behind stitched soles has failed in this instance.  Does that mean that AE or Nordstrom has to do something about it?  Not necessarily, since it is pretty much impossible to prove that they have only been worn a few times, and that they weren't abused (like plucking the stitches out from the top).  It almost looks like the thread has been pulled, in a similar way that you can pull a thread on an article of clothing, which can start a domino effect of unraveling.  However, that's impossible with a lock stitch.  I'm not saying that the OP has done this.  I'm simply saying that this is unusual.  I won't be surprised if they take the shoes back or repair them at no cost, since both companies are known for stellar customer service.  If it has been a completely natural occurrence, I would personally classify it as a defect, and keep my fingers crossed that they'll fix it or exchange it.

 

Don't expect this to happen to your shoes simply from wearing them in the rain though.

 

Great response $$

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Originally Posted by tifosi View Post


Agreed

I disagree here.  I tried on calf patriots before I picked up the same size in shell a few weeks later.  Calf fit wonderfully, but I'm having a problem with the shell digging in to my feet across the vamp.  I'm sticking with them in hope that they eventually loosen up just a bit.  Also, they're quite dull despite me brushing, rubbing, VSC/Reno-ing them for extended periods of time.  I wish they picked up a shine...

post #33653 of 47006
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Originally Posted by jch1 View Post

I disagree here.  I tried on calf patriots before I picked up the same size in shell a few weeks later.  Calf fit wonderfully, but I'm having a problem with the shell digging in to my feet across the vamp.  I'm sticking with them in hope that they eventually loosen up just a bit.  Also, they're quite dull despite me brushing, rubbing, VSC/Reno-ing them for extended periods of time.  I wish they picked up a shine...
Shell stretches less than calf. May be what you are experiencing. Calf will stretch considerably on your first wearing. Shell will not.
post #33654 of 47006
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Originally Posted by jch1 View Post
 

I disagree here.  I tried on calf patriots before I picked up the same size in shell a few weeks later.  Calf fit wonderfully, but I'm having a problem with the shell digging in to my feet across the vamp.  I'm sticking with them in hope that they eventually loosen up just a bit.  Also, they're quite dull despite me brushing, rubbing, VSC/Reno-ing them for extended periods of time.  I wish they picked up a shine...

 

I have had similar experiences typically with the Alden LHSes. I have found that the the top doesn't necessarily stretch out (particularly with Shell Cordovan), but actually, my weight causes the bottoms to compress just a pidge, which is enough to make the top comfortable. Hope that this helps! Good luck!

 

-Mike

post #33655 of 47006
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Originally Posted by tifosi View Post


Shell stretches less than calf. May be what you are experiencing. Calf will stretch considerably on your first wearing. Shell will not.

 

Good call Tif! :-)

post #33656 of 47006
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Originally Posted by jch1 View Post
 

I disagree here.  I tried on calf patriots before I picked up the same size in shell a few weeks later.  Calf fit wonderfully, but I'm having a problem with the shell digging in to my feet across the vamp.  I'm sticking with them in hope that they eventually loosen up just a bit.  Also, they're quite dull despite me brushing, rubbing, VSC/Reno-ing them for extended periods of time.  I wish they picked up a shine...

We could argue about sizing all day and night but the reality is, everybody's feet are different AND every pair of shoes is different. Because of these variables the only real way to know what size of shoe to get in a certain model is to TRY IT ON. One 9d shoe might fit completely different from another 9d shoe of the same model.

 

Your problem is not with shell, it's not with calf. If you tried on 10 pairs of shell, and 10 pairs of calf they would all fit slightly differently from each other. Don't let your experiences with one shoe influence your opinion so greatly.

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I can usually tell if a shoe will fit based on the pics on the manufacturer's site...
Not so much with AE's pics... stirpot.gif :roflmao:
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Maiden voyage of my regular burgundy shell MacNeils. They got to see the dentist office today for my root canal. The right shoe has more of a glow than the left but hopefully some brushing and buffing should balance them out. I like the "beefy-ness" of these gunboats. 

 

Off to the root canal!

 

 

 

Out of the box.

 

post #33659 of 47006
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post
 


I dunno, these are pretty handsome frye boots.

 

 

AE needs to make something like this.

I believe there's a $900 shell cordovan version of this boot or a very similar looking plain toe.

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I finally had a few minutes to photograph my Walnut Shell Daltons.

 

Plus plenty of pictures of the new Walnut Shell Daltons and my new Family Set.

 

Allen Edmonds Walnut Shell Cordovan "Dalton" Wingtip Boot


 

More Pictures: Walnut Shell Daltons (Click to show)

 

 

 

 

 

 

One thing that I like about these Walnut Shells in particular, is the presence of an extra set of stitches inside the perforations on the side of the boot. This row of stitches are not present on the standard Daltons. I think it makes the boot look nicer and slightly more formal. They are also unlined. I am not sure if that was standard with the Webgem Walnut Shell Daltons or if that was something special Pelle Line did. The burgundy shell Daltons shown below are lined.


 

Other recent acquisitions: (Click to show)

Alden Black Shell Semi-Brogue Medallion Toe - Plaza Last

 

Alden Color 8 LHS - Van Last

 

Alden Cigar LWB - Barrie Last

(Note: The color variation on the left shoe is not very noticeable in real life.)

 

Warning: Entire Collection (Click to show)

Alden - Semi-Brogue Medallion Cap Toes - Black Shell - Plaza Last

 

Alden - Horse-Bit Loafers - Black Calf - Cape Cod Collection

 

Allen Edmonds - "Harrison" Cap Toe Balmorals - Black Shell Cordovan (MTO)

 

Allen Edmonds - "Cambridge" Wingtips - Black Shell Cordovan

 

Allen Edmonds - "McTavish" Casual Wingtips - Black Wax-Infused Leather

 

Alden - Chukka Boot - Color 8 Shell Cordovan - Barrie Last

 

Alden - Perforated Cap Toe - Color 8 Shell Cordovan - Hampton Last

 

Alden - Tasseled Loafer - Color 8 Shell Cordovan - Aberdeen Last

 

Alden - Leisure Hand-Sewn - Color 8 Shell Cordovan - Van Last

 

Allen Edmonds - "Cambridge" Wingtip - Burgundy Shell Cordovan

 

Allen Edmonds - "Dalton" Wingtip Boot - Burgundy Shell Cordovan

 

Alden - Longwing Blutcher - Cigar Shell Cordovan - Barrie Last

 

Alden - Cap Toe Balmorals - Cigar Shell Cordovan - Hampton Last

 

Alden - Leisure Hand-Sewn - Cigar Shell Cordovan - Van Last

 

C&J for RL - "Marlow" Wingtip Blutchers - Brown Shell Cordovan

 

C&J for RL - "Gianni" Boot - Brown Shell Cordovan

 

Allen Edmonds - "Jefferson" Wingtip - Cappuccino Shell Cordovan

 

Allen Edmonds - Highway 1 Driving Moc - Brown Calfskin

 

Allen Edmonds - "Amok" Chukka Boot - Snuff Suede

 

Alden - Longwing Blutcher - Ravello Shell Cordovan - Barrie Last

Alden - Norwegian Split Toe - Ravello Shell Cordovan - Aberdeen Last

 

Alden - Leisure Hand-Sewn - Ravello Shell Cordovan - Van Last

Allen Edmonds - "Dalton" Wingtip Boot - Walnut Shell Cordovan

 

Allen Edmonds - "Strand" Semi-Brogue Medallion Cap Toes - Walnut Shell Cordovan

 

Allen Edmonds - "Player's Shoe" Wingtip Balmoral - Walnut Calf

 

Alden - Longwing Blutcher - Whiskey Shell Cordovan - Barrie Last

 

Alden - Plain Toe Blutcher - Whiskey Shell Cordovan - Barrie Last

 

 

Hope that you are all having a good Friday!

 

Thanks,

Mike

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