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I'd probably even call it the "top line piping" as tifosi noted - since not all shoes have piping but they typically have a top line, unless they're a flip flop. Rhombus vs Square kinda thing :nodding:

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I'd probably even call it the "top line piping" as tifosi noted - since not all shoes have piping but they typically have a top line, unless they're a flip flop. Rhombus vs Square kinda thing nod%5B1%5D.gif
Good point, tampa.
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Where's the farce exactly? AE makes an absolute minority of its shoes in the DR in order to establish its presence and compete with JM, Cole Haan and such in the below $200 market segment. The shoes they make in the DR are clearly marked as such. Dislike some other brands (Grenson first comes to mind), they don't make most of the shoe in the DR and then import it to the US for the final assembly.

 

It is not as much the made in DR issue as it is the potential inferior product. 

I was more referring to what has occurred with many US brands (not only shoes) that have now gone the way of the dodo bird.

They start making an inferior quality shoe (ie. cemented construction), that happens to have a better gross margin.

This inferior shoe then dilutes the brand, and the brand loses its intrinsic value.

I thoroughly appreciate AE and their products, but I am fearful of this dilution.

There is not enough of a differentiation of branding between "Allen Edmonds" and "ae by Allen Edmonds". 

I wonder if a different branding methodology would segregate the products enough to not take away from what we have come to love about Allen Edmonds. 

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It is not as much the made in DR issue as it is the potential inferior product. 

I was more referring to what has occurred with many US brands (not only shoes) that have now gone the way of the dodo bird.

They start making an inferior quality shoe (ie. cemented construction), that happens to have a better gross margin.

This inferior shoe then dilutes the brand, and the brand loses its intrinsic value.

I thoroughly appreciate AE and their products, but I am fearful of this dilution.

There is not enough of a differentiation of branding between "Allen Edmonds" and "ae by Allen Edmonds". 

I wonder if a different branding methodology would segregate the products enough to not take away from what we have come to love about Allen Edmonds. 

The difference is pretty clear to me and, I suppose, to any buyer who would want to spend a few seconds reading about the shoes he's getting. AE clearly marks the shoes with cemented construction as such (e.g.) and indicates the country of the manufacture. I am not sure what's going to happen down the road, but so far AE has been as honest as it gets when it comes to marketing. 

Fwiw, Alden also has its Cape Cod collection which, to borrow your terminology, is much "inferior" to their standard line but I've heard no complains about it diluting the value of the brand. 

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Has anyone heard from MTO Allison this past week?  I emailed her last Friday and the Friday before about my MTO order and have not heard anything back.

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I emailed her on 10/31 and have not gotten a reply back as of yet.
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I e-mailed her on Friday and got a response yesterday.

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Has anyone heard from MTO Allison this past week?  I emailed her last Friday and the Friday before about my MTO order and have not heard anything back.

I had a quick and simple question on Monday and she responded immediately.

-Mike
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I just sent her an email, so we will see...
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Noob question here. What do you call the thin edge just between the lining and the uppers found in some of the shoes like here in the Adams. Some shoes like the McTavish dont have them. Can the color of this part of the shoe be specified as part of an MTO?

 

Much thanks for the information!

 

both images from allenedmonds.com

 

 

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I don't know what the technical shoe term would be, but I would call it "piping" as used in other items and leather goods. If there is a technical term I'm sure MoneyWellSpent will know and should be along shortly.

 

 

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http://www.shoerepairvip.com/images/shoe_anatomy.jpg

 

 

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^^ Topline. I'd buy that for a dollar.

 

 

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I'd probably even call it the "top line piping" as tifosi noted - since not all shoes have piping but they typically have a top line, unless they're a flip flop. Rhombus vs Square kinda thing :nodding:

 

 

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Good point, tampa.

 

Piping is correct.  Slip Beading is another name for it.

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My MTO arrived today. I do believe that these were some of the last cappuccino MTO's that were accepted. I got these for $505 with the RDA sale price. Jefferson in cappuccino shell with dark brown natural edge trim and independence lining.






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My MTO arrived today. I do believe that these were some of the last cappuccino MTO's that were accepted. I got these for $505 with the RDA sale price. Jefferson in cappuccino shell with dark brown natural edge trim and independence lining.
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Extremely nice.

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Those look fantastic, Pastor! Enjoy them!
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Just putting something out here...don't even know if it is possible yet, but...

IF Allen Edmonds will let me transfer my MTO 8D Cappuccino shell MacNeils to another party; would anyone be interested? They are about 6 weeks into production.

*CAPPUCCINO CORDOVAN
*TONE ON TONE STITCHING
*BROWN LEATHER INSOLE
*CHILI SPLIT REVERSE WELT
*DOUBLE RENDENBACH OUTSOLE
*RENDENBACH COMBINATION HEEL
*LIGHT BROWN TRANSPARENT EDGE DRESSING
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