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^ I take it discontinued styles are available for MTO? Can anyone confirm that.

 

Thanks

Don't rush into the conclusions. They are available if AE a) has the last on which the shoe was made; and b) is able to cut the upper for this shoe. Not every discontinued is obviously going to be available and this needs to be confirmed for each shoe in question. 

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Originally Posted by JL3212 View Post

Just saw this as well. I will probably stop buying them if it does happen.

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I just read this article as well.. and would be terribly disappointed if AE was assimilated into another corporate conglomerate of brands. Better get your MTOs in asap just in case.

It is already owned by a "corporate conglomerate of brands."
post #32478 of 47024
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Don't rush into the conclusions. They are available if AE a) has the last on which the shoe was made; and b) is able to cut the upper for this shoe. Not every discontinued is obviously going to be available and this needs to be confirmed for each shoe in question.

 

 

Thanks! Looks like I'll be inquiring about the ability to MTO an Evanston... I saw that a couple pages back, and it's exactly what I'm looking for.
 

To answer your question I think a pair of McTavish built up in brown CXL similar to the black wax finish currently available would look nice. I have this one in a couple of colors, but the black is my favorite. The contrast of the light stitching and brown sole work well for a casual shoe. Would work well in CXL, if we are talking about the same thing. The finish that develops a nice natural patina over time.

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Originally Posted by bbob2013 View Post


Thanks! Looks like I'll be inquiring about the ability to MTO an Evanston... I saw that a couple pages back, and it's exactly what I'm looking for.

 
To answer your question I think a pair of McTavish built up in brown CXL similar to the black wax finish currently available would look nice. I have this one in a couple of colors, but the black is my favorite. The contrast of the light stitching and brown sole work well for a casual shoe. Would work well in CXL, if we are talking about the same thing. The finish that develops a nice natural patina over time.

The 0 last the Evanston was made on is no longer used by AE. The closest style they have now to the Evantson would be the Rutledge, which is a stunning shoe.
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Hey guys, seeking some opinions here.  I'd like to get a balmoral boot for a suit as I need to make several presentations at conferences next year.  Ideally, actually I would like 2 (brown and black).

 

Which one would you guys go for?

 

1. Fifth street MTO without the medallion ($375 for calf, $595 for shell, plus tax). It would look like this, in black or brown.

 

 

Edit: I am borrowing this pic from someone on the board...I can't remember who.  I saw it one day and saved it to my computer.  I hope that is ok!

 

2. Carmina cordovan balmoral in cognac: (~ $680, +/- any duties/fees I'll have to pay after it ships)

 

 

I'll have to find a Forest last to try on, but assuming it fits as comfortably as the AE 5 last on me, is the extra money worth it for shell and/or carmina?

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I'm not usually a Carmina guy, however in this instance, Carmina wins out.
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I'm not a huge fan of bal boots, but I'd pick the AE just cause they don't have speed hooks at the top.
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The Carminas are worth it.  Love my AEs, but these are a step up. I have these Carminas in suede and they are fantastic.  I might be inclined to stay with calf, though.  Carmina shell can get very spendy very quickly.

 

Might want to ask the same question on the Carmina thread if you want to balance out the responses.

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These are pretty bad, I guess a pure function shoe


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Hey guys, seeking some opinions here.  I'd like to get a balmoral boot for a suit as I need to make several presentations at conferences next year.  Ideally, actually I would like 2 (brown and black).

Which one would you guys go for?

1. Fifth street MTO without the medallion ($375 for calf, $595 for shell, plus tax). It would look like this, in black or brown.
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Edit: I am borrowing this pic from someone on the board...I can't remember who.  I saw it one day and saved it to my computer.  I hope that is ok!

2. Carmina cordovan balmoral in cognac: (~ $680, +/- any duties/fees I'll have to pay after it ships)
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I'll have to find a Forest last to try on, but assuming it fits as comfortably as the AE 5 last on me, is the extra money worth it for shell and/or carmina?

I present at the conferences 4-to-5 times a year and the boots have never been required for participants. This said, I'd take AE 'cause of the speed hooks and 'cause you know how the last is going to fit you.
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Originally Posted by V1KTA222 View Post

Hey guys, seeking some opinions here.  I'd like to get a balmoral boot for a suit as I need to make several presentations at conferences next year.  Ideally, actually I would like 2 (brown and black).

Which one would you guys go for?

1. Fifth street MTO without the medallion ($375 for calf, $595 for shell, plus tax). It would look like this, in black or brown.

Edit: I am borrowing this pic from someone on the board...I can't remember who.  I saw it one day and saved it to my computer.  I hope that is ok!

2. Carmina cordovan balmoral in cognac: (~ $680, +/- any duties/fees I'll have to pay after it ships.

I'll have to find a Forest last to try on, but assuming it fits as comfortably as the AE 5 last on me, is the extra money worth it for shell and/or carmina?

Since you want one in black and brown, I'd get one of each brand, going for whichever brown offering you like best, then the other in black. I wouldn't get shell, as I wouldn't be wearing boots that much due to the warm St. Louis weather in the summer.
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So, this is disappointing:

 

http://www.jsonline.com/business/mens-wearhouse-reported-bidding-for-allen-edmonds-b99126284z1-228843321.html

 

Not sure if it's being discussed yet. Saw it posted on the AE facebook page. If they sell, we'll probably only have a couple more yaers of quality before they become "just another shoe company"

 

Just saw this as well. I will probably stop buying them if it does happen.


As will I. Creates quite an opportunity in the market if this does come to pass. It will be like Bankers Trust buying Alex Brown, nothing will be left within 24 months.....

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Originally Posted by AxVxA View Post
 

So, this is disappointing:

 

http://www.jsonline.com/business/mens-wearhouse-reported-bidding-for-allen-edmonds-b99126284z1-228843321.html

 

Not sure if it's being discussed yet. Saw it posted on the AE facebook page. If they sell, we'll probably only have a couple more yaers of quality before they become "just another shoe company"

I don't necessarily share your view on this. In his interview a few years ago Paul said that AE has a unique niche on the market offering relatively affordable Goodyear welted shoes made of good leathers and of great quality. They don't seem to have competitors in their price range and their shoes are selling like the hot pies. What would AE to gain if it were to follow JM for instance? I am not a market researcher, but they would probably lose more than they would gain. There's more than enough cheap poor quality shoes on the market and I see no reason for AE to compete in that niche. Of course, it's hard to predict which scenario AE is likely to follow, but my hunch is that they are going to be OK in the long run. 

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AE seems to provide a product in between Alden and J&M. Either an increase or decrease in quality/cost would bring them to a place where they would have more direct competition. I don't envision a scenario where this makes much sense for them. They have established a good business model allowing them to fill in the gaps between other manufacturers.
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Originally Posted by bespoken pa View Post

AE seems to provide a product in between Alden and J&M. Either an increase or decrease in quality/cost would bring them to a place where they would have more direct competition. I don't envision a scenario where this makes much sense for them. They have established a good business model allowing them to fill in the gaps between other manufacturers.

Now, the move into apparel starts to make more sense.

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