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post #32476 of 49634
I'm not usually a Carmina guy, however in this instance, Carmina wins out.
post #32477 of 49634
I'm not a huge fan of bal boots, but I'd pick the AE just cause they don't have speed hooks at the top.
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The Carminas are worth it.  Love my AEs, but these are a step up. I have these Carminas in suede and they are fantastic.  I might be inclined to stay with calf, though.  Carmina shell can get very spendy very quickly.

 

Might want to ask the same question on the Carmina thread if you want to balance out the responses.

post #32479 of 49634
These are pretty bad, I guess a pure function shoe


post #32480 of 49634
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Originally Posted by V1KTA222 View Post

Hey guys, seeking some opinions here.  I'd like to get a balmoral boot for a suit as I need to make several presentations at conferences next year.  Ideally, actually I would like 2 (brown and black).

Which one would you guys go for?

1. Fifth street MTO without the medallion ($375 for calf, $595 for shell, plus tax). It would look like this, in black or brown.
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Edit: I am borrowing this pic from someone on the board...I can't remember who.  I saw it one day and saved it to my computer.  I hope that is ok!

2. Carmina cordovan balmoral in cognac: (~ $680, +/- any duties/fees I'll have to pay after it ships)
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I'll have to find a Forest last to try on, but assuming it fits as comfortably as the AE 5 last on me, is the extra money worth it for shell and/or carmina?

I present at the conferences 4-to-5 times a year and the boots have never been required for participants. This said, I'd take AE 'cause of the speed hooks and 'cause you know how the last is going to fit you.
post #32481 of 49634
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Originally Posted by V1KTA222 View Post

Hey guys, seeking some opinions here.  I'd like to get a balmoral boot for a suit as I need to make several presentations at conferences next year.  Ideally, actually I would like 2 (brown and black).

Which one would you guys go for?

1. Fifth street MTO without the medallion ($375 for calf, $595 for shell, plus tax). It would look like this, in black or brown.

Edit: I am borrowing this pic from someone on the board...I can't remember who.  I saw it one day and saved it to my computer.  I hope that is ok!

2. Carmina cordovan balmoral in cognac: (~ $680, +/- any duties/fees I'll have to pay after it ships.

I'll have to find a Forest last to try on, but assuming it fits as comfortably as the AE 5 last on me, is the extra money worth it for shell and/or carmina?

Since you want one in black and brown, I'd get one of each brand, going for whichever brown offering you like best, then the other in black. I wouldn't get shell, as I wouldn't be wearing boots that much due to the warm St. Louis weather in the summer.
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So, this is disappointing:

 

http://www.jsonline.com/business/mens-wearhouse-reported-bidding-for-allen-edmonds-b99126284z1-228843321.html

 

Not sure if it's being discussed yet. Saw it posted on the AE facebook page. If they sell, we'll probably only have a couple more yaers of quality before they become "just another shoe company"

 

Just saw this as well. I will probably stop buying them if it does happen.


As will I. Creates quite an opportunity in the market if this does come to pass. It will be like Bankers Trust buying Alex Brown, nothing will be left within 24 months.....

post #32483 of 49634
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Originally Posted by AxVxA View Post
 

So, this is disappointing:

 

http://www.jsonline.com/business/mens-wearhouse-reported-bidding-for-allen-edmonds-b99126284z1-228843321.html

 

Not sure if it's being discussed yet. Saw it posted on the AE facebook page. If they sell, we'll probably only have a couple more yaers of quality before they become "just another shoe company"

I don't necessarily share your view on this. In his interview a few years ago Paul said that AE has a unique niche on the market offering relatively affordable Goodyear welted shoes made of good leathers and of great quality. They don't seem to have competitors in their price range and their shoes are selling like the hot pies. What would AE to gain if it were to follow JM for instance? I am not a market researcher, but they would probably lose more than they would gain. There's more than enough cheap poor quality shoes on the market and I see no reason for AE to compete in that niche. Of course, it's hard to predict which scenario AE is likely to follow, but my hunch is that they are going to be OK in the long run. 

post #32484 of 49634
AE seems to provide a product in between Alden and J&M. Either an increase or decrease in quality/cost would bring them to a place where they would have more direct competition. I don't envision a scenario where this makes much sense for them. They have established a good business model allowing them to fill in the gaps between other manufacturers.
post #32485 of 49634
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Originally Posted by bespoken pa View Post

AE seems to provide a product in between Alden and J&M. Either an increase or decrease in quality/cost would bring them to a place where they would have more direct competition. I don't envision a scenario where this makes much sense for them. They have established a good business model allowing them to fill in the gaps between other manufacturers.

Now, the move into apparel starts to make more sense.

post #32486 of 49634
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Originally Posted by coolarrow View Post

Now, the move into apparel starts to make more sense.
Hmmmm
post #32487 of 49634
Quote:
Originally Posted by V1KTA222 View Post

Hey guys, seeking some opinions here.  I'd like to get a balmoral boot for a suit as I need to make several presentations at conferences next year.  Ideally, actually I would like 2 (brown and black).

Which one would you guys go for?

1. Fifth street MTO without the medallion ($375 for calf, $595 for shell, plus tax). It would look like this, in black or brown.

Edit: I am borrowing this pic from someone on the board...I can't remember who.  I saw it one day and saved it to my computer.  I hope that is ok!

2. Carmina cordovan balmoral in cognac: (~ $680, +/- any duties/fees I'll have to pay after it ships)

I'll have to find a Forest last to try on, but assuming it fits as comfortably as the AE 5 last on me, is the extra money worth it for shell and/or carmina?

I have the AE Fifth Street in Brown and I like them. I also have Carminas (2 pair actually) in brown/suede and in black scothgrain.
I wear them all but I prefer the Carminas. They are much higher and the speed hooks do not catch on my trouser hems . The forest last is an extremely good fit for me. I'd also say spring for the shell if you can. Shell is worth it and the Carmina finishing is top notch.

Here are some pics of each:

Carmina Black Scotchgrain


Carmina Brown Calf and Brown Suede


AE Fifth Street in Brown Calf
post #32488 of 49634
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Originally Posted by cincikid View Post

I don't necessarily share your view on this. In his interview a few years ago Paul said that AE has a unique niche on the market offering relatively affordable Goodyear welted shoes made of good leathers and of great quality. They don't seem to have competitors in their price range and their shoes are selling like the hot pies. What would AE to gain if it were to follow JM for instance? I am not a market researcher, but they would probably lose more than they would gain. There's more than enough cheap poor quality shoes on the market and I see no reason for AE to compete in that niche. Of course, it's hard to predict which scenario AE is likely to follow, but my hunch is that they are going to be OK in the long run. 
^^This
post #32489 of 49634

Browsing old catalogues... Can't figure out why AE has discontinued so many great models they had, like this one for example (from the 1980 edition).

post #32490 of 49634
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Originally Posted by cincikid View Post
 

Browsing old catalogues... Can't figure out why AE has discontinued so many great models they had, like this one for example (from the 1980 edition).

 

They needed to close that out like you need to close out Chrome tabs...

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