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post #31846 of 48285
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Originally Posted by kentyman View Post
 

 

I didn't realize AE Conditioner/Cleaner isn't recommended for shell. The description of CC says "Recommended use on Calfskin and other fine leathers", but that's vague. However, I did just find that AE's shell care video specifically mentions it for heavier cleaning.

 

Any specific reason you don't recommend CC on shell? I do have a small amount of Renovateur, but I figured if I'm going to but stripping over and over, I'd rather use something cheaper if it's still suitable.

 

For what it's worth, I use both AE cleaner and conditioner and Renovateur on my calfskin shoes, so I'm pretty familiar with both products.  Generally, I find that Renovateur does a better job of stripping off the top layer of polish, which is what you are looking to do.  I feel like the AE product does a good job cleaning surface dirt and conditioning, but it does not seem to remove as much polish.

 

With regard to shell, I go back to the warnings about using petroleum based products and other cleaners that are not intended for shell.  Would the AE cleaner or conditioner harm your shell shoes?  I have no idea, but I wouldn't want to experiment to find out.  As has been posted here numerous times, Horween recommends both Venetian Shoe Cream and Renovateur for cleaning and conditioning shell, which seems to be what most here use.

 

My main point, though, was that the simple act of using a damp rag and brushing the shell will go a long way towards cleaning off the excess polish on the shoes.  If you're looking for the cheapest option, this is definitely it - but it will also definitely involve a significant investment of elbow grease.

post #31847 of 48285
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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post
 

The guy down the hall showed up today in a dark gray (just a touch ligher than charcoal) suit with the same light tan venetian loafers he wears all the time with chinos that have likely never seen a coat of polish.  He normally wears an older pair of Kenneth Cole or Ecco square toe black shoes with suits, so I think this was an attempt to dress more stylishly.  Aye, aye, aye.  I've regularly mentored him on more job related items, but am not touching this issue with a ten foot pole.

 

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post #31848 of 48285
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Originally Posted by motosacto View Post

Just a heads-up--DSW has Ralph Lauren Sanderson (long wing) and Stratford (monk strap) shoes in a fair number of sizes. I just ordered a pair of "coffee" Sandersons for $230 with discount. I think that's a pretty good deal...

AE may still have seconds for $149. I bought suede Stratfords about a week ago.

post #31849 of 48285
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Originally Posted by MacktasticGDogg View Post

Well, the WebGem shell Jeffersons arrived today. Unfortunately I think it might need to go back. There is a couple of small folds on the outer part of the right shoe: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

It's not something I can't live with, and if these were say walnut shell so there's no chance of getting a replacement, I'd be OK with keeping them. But it does seem like something that does not belong on first quality shoes. Does anyone think I should keep them?

I contacted AE about my flawed shell Jeffersons, and Debra offered to replace them and also offered me the RDA discount on it. She will also have a 2nd inspection done on it before shipping out to me, so hopefully the new pair will be issue-free. Great customer service by AE as always.

I guess you size 9D guys might want to keep an eye out for a pair of brown shell Jefferson factory seconds floating out there in the near future.
post #31850 of 48285
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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post
 

For what it's worth, I use both AE cleaner and conditioner and Renovateur on my calfskin shoes, so I'm pretty familiar with both products.  Generally, I find that Renovateur does a better job of stripping off the top layer of polish, which is what you are looking to do.  I feel like the AE product does a good job cleaning surface dirt and conditioning, but it does not seem to remove as much polish.

 

With regard to shell, I go back to the warnings about using petroleum based products and other cleaners that are not intended for shell.  Would the AE cleaner or conditioner harm your shell shoes?  I have no idea, but I wouldn't want to experiment to find out.  As has been posted here numerous times, Horween recommends both Venetian Shoe Cream and Renovateur for cleaning and conditioning shell, which seems to be what most here use.

 

My main point, though, was that the simple act of using a damp rag and brushing the shell will go a long way towards cleaning off the excess polish on the shoes.  If you're looking for the cheapest option, this is definitely it - but it will also definitely involve a significant investment of elbow grease.

 

Thanks for this. I'll compare just a damp rag with Reno and see how it goes.

post #31851 of 48285
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Originally Posted by WICaniac View Post
 

Sandersons arrived this morning and look spectacular.  I am a bit surprised at their narrowness, however.  Another thread indicated that these are made on a 222 (which seems right, as they appear identical to the Williams apart from the Independence frills).  Sorry if this has been addressed elsewhere, but has anyone sized up on this last (vis-à-vis the 65 in particular)? 

I have reluctantly concluded that the 222 (like the 333) is not built for my foot (which apparently is "blobbish" rather than "sleek" or "European").  My beautiful Sandersons will go back, to be replaced down the line with what I really need: everyday shoes that work with worsted wool or corduroy: the pebbled McNeils, brown McTavishes, or (gasp) Fenways.  I almost made the MTO plunge but couldn't justify it.  I'll leave you all to revel in your purchases....

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Do you guys have a recommendation for an AE loafer which accommodates a high instep? I love the patriots but the instep areas is too tight!

post #31853 of 48285
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Originally Posted by WICaniac View Post
 

I have reluctantly concluded that the 222 (like the 333) is not built for my foot (which apparently is "blobbish" rather than "sleek" or "European").  My beautiful Sandersons will go back, to be replaced down the line with what I really need: everyday shoes that work with worsted wool or corduroy: the pebbled McNeils, brown McTavishes, or (gasp) Fenways.  I almost made the MTO plunge but couldn't justify it.  I'll leave you all to revel in your purchases....

Check out the Aberdeen. It's an excellent everyday shoe. It's also on the 2 last but it comes in different widths. 

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Am I the only one that thinks certain members of this forum are payed to generate excitement for AE?

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If they are I want in on it. I would certainly work for shell.
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I remember reading something about this earlier on the forums, but does the MTO sale for $505 end today? Or did Allison extend the date?

post #31857 of 48285
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Originally Posted by movoblast View Post

I remember reading something about this earlier on the forums, but does the MTO sale for $505 end today? Or did Allison extend the date?

I believe the post said it can go a few days further, but only if you start working with her on it by today.
post #31858 of 48285
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Originally Posted by bespoken pa View Post

If they are I want in on it. I would certainly work for shell.

 

Was that you I saw on the street corner this morning?  I was about to give you a dollar until I saw your, "Will work for shell sign," and noticed that, despite your rags and haggard facial expression, you had on shell boots that were worth more than I had in my wallet.

post #31859 of 48285
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Originally Posted by movoblast View Post

I remember reading something about this earlier on the forums, but does the MTO sale for $505 end today? Or did Allison extend the date?

The sale ends today *but* she can extend it for another week if you start working on your custom order before it ends today. Of course, it being AE, she probably would honor it for the next week anyway, since the retail stores honor the RDA sales both ahead and after the fact all the time.

No one has mentioned it during the RDA sale, because 15% off has been so good.... but during the anniversary sale in the spring, the standard discount is 19.22% off. Which means, if they honor that sale price too, it'll be down to $480 for shell MTOs.

I've said it before, but I've got to say it again. This is such an unheard of deal, it's ridiculous. Considering the prices, lead times, and lack of customizability for certain competitors for shell... well, even if you think certain other brands make better shells (I don't, personally) there's just no beating this.

BTW, I can't remember if I mentioned this... you know how the Neumoks have a leather half-sole inside, on top of the normal hard leather insole? Well, you can get that on any MTO, and it'll be made out of the material of the shoe... so you can get a shell half-sole (on top of a piece of foam, on top of the normal insole). My brown shell Neumoks will of course have this, and I had my shell Banchory made up that way as well.
post #31860 of 48285
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Originally Posted by movoblast View Post

I remember reading something about this earlier on the forums, but does the MTO sale for $505 end today? Or did Allison extend the date?

RDA ends today at midnight eastern. The discount down to $505 would therefor end with that sale, but I don't have a clue s to if or when they will stop waiving the SF MTO fee.

-Mike
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