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post #31831 of 52405
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Originally Posted by tietherope View Post
 

Bumping this post as I'm interested in the answer as well. If it was answered I apologize as I overlooked it.

 

TL;DR - How much does the width change by going down a half size in length?

This is from the AE site:

 

"Allen Edmonds shoes come in lengths from 6-16. Each half size increases by approximately one-sixth of an inch and each full size increases by one-third of an inch. The widths of Allen Edmonds shoes range from AAA, the narrowest width, to EEE, the widest width, with a D width considered medium. Technically speaking, each width increases by approximately three-sixteenths of an inch in total girth."

 

I knew I read this once and guessed it was in the All about Last page.

post #31832 of 52405
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Originally Posted by green garden View Post
 

This is from the AE site:

 

"Allen Edmonds shoes come in lengths from 6-16. Each half size increases by approximately one-sixth of an inch and each full size increases by one-third of an inch. The widths of Allen Edmonds shoes range from AAA, the narrowest width, to EEE, the widest width, with a D width considered medium. Technically speaking, each width increases by approximately three-sixteenths of an inch in total girth."

 

I knew I read this once and guessed it was in the All about Last page.

I was actually wondering the width difference between say a 10D and a 9.5D, not a 10D and 10E. 

 

I do appreciate the information though. 

post #31833 of 52405
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Originally Posted by green garden View Post

This is from the AE site:

"Allen Edmonds shoes come in lengths from 6-16. Each half size increases by approximately one-sixth of an inch and each full size increases by one-third of an inch. The widths of Allen Edmonds shoes range from AAA, the narrowest width, to EEE, the widest width, with a D width considered medium. Technically speaking, each width increases by approximately three-sixteenths of an inch in total girth."

I knew I read this once and guessed it was in the All about Last page.
Unfortunately, there is no specific reference to the OP's original question (e.g. if you go from a 10D to a 9.5D, what if any width decrease takes place).

I'd suggest interpreting the very last chart on their fit guide to determine how width correlates to size.
post #31834 of 52405
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Originally Posted by kentyman View Post

 

I wore [my shell Townley's] this weekend and realized how disappointingly dull they are. Tonight or later this week I'm going to try to spend a lot of time stripping the factory finishing to see if I can't get down to the shell. I don't have Saphir Reno'Mat, but I'm going to try to get it down with AE Conditioner/Cleaner if possible.

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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post
 

Don't use conditioner/cleaner as that is intended for calfskin.  All you need to do is invest the time applying a couple coats of Renovateur to get most of the factory polish off and then regularly wiping them down with a damp rag and brushing them.  Once you get down to the bare shell, you can enjoy the modest glow you will get as is, apply Saphir neutral cordovan creme or apply a little paste wax.

 

I didn't realize AE Conditioner/Cleaner isn't recommended for shell. The description of CC says "Recommended use on Calfskin and other fine leathers", but that's vague. However, I did just find that AE's shell care video specifically mentions it for heavier cleaning.

 

Any specific reason you don't recommend CC on shell? I do have a small amount of Renovateur, but I figured if I'm going to but stripping over and over, I'd rather use something cheaper if it's still suitable.

post #31835 of 52405
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Originally Posted by tietherope View Post
 

I was actually wondering the width difference between say a 10D and a 9.5D, not a 10D and 10E. 

 

I do appreciate the information though. 

Based on my experience it is size up width down, and vice-versa.  So a 10D would be equivalent width to a 9.5E.  Corollary, a 9.5D would be equivalent in width to 10C.  So from the site explanation, it is 3/16 inch difference in girth.

 

This is comparing the same last of course.

post #31836 of 52405
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Originally Posted by tietherope View Post
 

Thank you MWS. My main concern was that since the Strand with a V Tread sole can be purchased from their site, without even going into the MTO section, that they may say it's basically a stock shoe when trying ordering through Allison and tell me to just order from the webpage.

 

Ah, I see what you are saying now.  I apologize.  In this instance, I would hope they would waive the cost.  I'm not positive of that, however.  It's worth checking with Allison to see, since that $50 charge is covering a "custom" modification, it seems that they should waive it for the SF offer if you ask me.    

post #31837 of 52405
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Originally Posted by Shawnc View Post

Tampatravel - are those size 10's? If so, I came very close to pulling the trigger on them. I already have a pair of shell saddles but those were so sweet I was tempted to bid anyway. Glad to see they went to a fellow SF member. Nice pickup.

They're 12D's and they're on my feet today in Philly. I'm on the road and these are some great kicks. I'm thinking of dropping them off for a recraft at the Philly AE store, but I think they have many more miles on them to be honest.
post #31838 of 52405
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Originally Posted by rydenfan View Post

Cappucino Dundees today
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Those look fantastic, Ryden!
post #31839 of 52405
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Originally Posted by tietherope View Post

Thank you MWS. My main concern was that since the Strand with a V Tread sole can be purchased from their site, without even going into the MTO section, that they may say it's basically a stock shoe when trying ordering through Allison and tell me to just order from the webpage. 

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Originally Posted by MoneyWellSpent View Post

Ah, I see what you are saying now.  I apologize.  In this instance, I would hope they would waive the cost.  I'm not positive of that, however.  It's worth checking with Allison to see, since that $50 charge is covering a "custom" modification, it seems that they should waive it for the SF offer if you ask me.    
They should waive the $50. I just placed an MTO for a boot that is out of size range (which normally incurrs the $50 charge). Allison waived that charge with the SF MTO deal.
post #31840 of 52405
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Originally Posted by kentyman View Post
 

 

I didn't realize AE Conditioner/Cleaner isn't recommended for shell. The description of CC says "Recommended use on Calfskin and other fine leathers", but that's vague. However, I did just find that AE's shell care video specifically mentions it for heavier cleaning.

 

Any specific reason you don't recommend CC on shell? I do have a small amount of Renovateur, but I figured if I'm going to but stripping over and over, I'd rather use something cheaper if it's still suitable.

Sandy, the head of AE's recrafting department, recently confirmed for me that you can use the Conditioner/Cleaner on shell, but she mentioned that it will take of the patina as well as any buildup.  It is, indeed, for "heavier cleaning."

post #31841 of 52405
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Originally Posted by kentyman View Post
 

 

I didn't realize AE Conditioner/Cleaner isn't recommended for shell. The description of CC says "Recommended use on Calfskin and other fine leathers", but that's vague. However, I did just find that AE's shell care video specifically mentions it for heavier cleaning.

 

Any specific reason you don't recommend CC on shell? I do have a small amount of Renovateur, but I figured if I'm going to but stripping over and over, I'd rather use something cheaper if it's still suitable.

 

For what it's worth, I use both AE cleaner and conditioner and Renovateur on my calfskin shoes, so I'm pretty familiar with both products.  Generally, I find that Renovateur does a better job of stripping off the top layer of polish, which is what you are looking to do.  I feel like the AE product does a good job cleaning surface dirt and conditioning, but it does not seem to remove as much polish.

 

With regard to shell, I go back to the warnings about using petroleum based products and other cleaners that are not intended for shell.  Would the AE cleaner or conditioner harm your shell shoes?  I have no idea, but I wouldn't want to experiment to find out.  As has been posted here numerous times, Horween recommends both Venetian Shoe Cream and Renovateur for cleaning and conditioning shell, which seems to be what most here use.

 

My main point, though, was that the simple act of using a damp rag and brushing the shell will go a long way towards cleaning off the excess polish on the shoes.  If you're looking for the cheapest option, this is definitely it - but it will also definitely involve a significant investment of elbow grease.

post #31842 of 52405
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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post
 

The guy down the hall showed up today in a dark gray (just a touch ligher than charcoal) suit with the same light tan venetian loafers he wears all the time with chinos that have likely never seen a coat of polish.  He normally wears an older pair of Kenneth Cole or Ecco square toe black shoes with suits, so I think this was an attempt to dress more stylishly.  Aye, aye, aye.  I've regularly mentored him on more job related items, but am not touching this issue with a ten foot pole.

 

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post #31843 of 52405
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Originally Posted by motosacto View Post

Just a heads-up--DSW has Ralph Lauren Sanderson (long wing) and Stratford (monk strap) shoes in a fair number of sizes. I just ordered a pair of "coffee" Sandersons for $230 with discount. I think that's a pretty good deal...

AE may still have seconds for $149. I bought suede Stratfords about a week ago.

post #31844 of 52405
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Originally Posted by MacktasticGDogg View Post

Well, the WebGem shell Jeffersons arrived today. Unfortunately I think it might need to go back. There is a couple of small folds on the outer part of the right shoe: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

It's not something I can't live with, and if these were say walnut shell so there's no chance of getting a replacement, I'd be OK with keeping them. But it does seem like something that does not belong on first quality shoes. Does anyone think I should keep them?

I contacted AE about my flawed shell Jeffersons, and Debra offered to replace them and also offered me the RDA discount on it. She will also have a 2nd inspection done on it before shipping out to me, so hopefully the new pair will be issue-free. Great customer service by AE as always.

I guess you size 9D guys might want to keep an eye out for a pair of brown shell Jefferson factory seconds floating out there in the near future.
post #31845 of 52405
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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post
 

For what it's worth, I use both AE cleaner and conditioner and Renovateur on my calfskin shoes, so I'm pretty familiar with both products.  Generally, I find that Renovateur does a better job of stripping off the top layer of polish, which is what you are looking to do.  I feel like the AE product does a good job cleaning surface dirt and conditioning, but it does not seem to remove as much polish.

 

With regard to shell, I go back to the warnings about using petroleum based products and other cleaners that are not intended for shell.  Would the AE cleaner or conditioner harm your shell shoes?  I have no idea, but I wouldn't want to experiment to find out.  As has been posted here numerous times, Horween recommends both Venetian Shoe Cream and Renovateur for cleaning and conditioning shell, which seems to be what most here use.

 

My main point, though, was that the simple act of using a damp rag and brushing the shell will go a long way towards cleaning off the excess polish on the shoes.  If you're looking for the cheapest option, this is definitely it - but it will also definitely involve a significant investment of elbow grease.

 

Thanks for this. I'll compare just a damp rag with Reno and see how it goes.

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